Is "Conservatism" Finally Dead?

[Cary]

I know a lot of people get upset by my definition of "conservatism" (actually fascism) and conservatism (careful, respect for tradition, not radical, based on sound reasoning and prudent decisions, ....).

But frankly I don't care. Call it whatever you want. I call them "conservatives" with quotes because they are not conservative in any way.

So the question here is whether this iteration is done, killed by their radicals and their own stupidity?

I think they're done. They've managed to hang on a little, but hey if we turn out they lose. And I think we're motivated to turn out. Their gig is over.

Am I right?

[LoisB]

1. I "turn out" for EVERY election - even those local ones with one issue on the ballot.

If I didn't, I would forfeit my right to complain about my government.

[Warpy]

2. No, they will continue to sputter on in much of Dixie,

the Moron Corridor of rural states that goes from Texas to the Dakotas, and the heavily Mormon states. Elsewhere, stick a fork in 'em, they're done. They've also lost the cities even in the areas that will continue to elect some of them in ridiculously gerrymandered districts.

There are always diehard true believers for any discredited philosophy. Consider how many idiots in this country still think the sun goes around the earth, which is only 6000 years old.

[GiveMeFreedom]

6. Which one?

is 6000 years old? The sun or earth? Now I am confused. Peace.

[Warpy]

9. Why, it all is!

All those fossils and all that work on relativity are just Satan's games to confuse the weak minded, you know.

[redstatebluegirl]

3. Nope Alive and Well and Crazier than ever here in Dixieland....

[Webster Green]

4. I doesn't matter if they are a minority. They still run the show.

With their sleezy gerrymandering, endless filibusters and voter obstruction, they have managed to stay in control of the country.

Add the cowardice of the democrats (including the president) to the equation, and we're pretty much fucked.

Watch as Obama supports the Keystone Pipeline project, and tells us how great it will be.

I've about given up.

[santamargarita]

5. Republicans are the very definition of fascism.

[Pakid]

8. In more way than one

A little known fact from history was the attempt by a group of rich Republicans to over throw FDR back in the 30's and install a fascist like form of government there big mistake was the general they when to did not care for what they want to do and turn them in. FDR big mistake was he let them go mostly because we where looking WW2 in the face and he felt it was a bad idea to execute these traitors, many of who's family are today right-wing nut jobs source of funding . He should have execute them !

[santamargarita]

14. Thank you Smedley Butler

[budkin]

7. No and it never will be

Everyone said it was in 2008 and look at the House now. Never underestimate the wack jobs.

[Cosmocat]

17. YEP

I did not think they were "dead" but that demographics would over time make it hard for them after 06 and 08.

Then 2010 came and for not reason at all, none, this country both turned over most of the states to their control just in time for the census AND had one of the biggest swings to them in congress in our lives.

No reason for it at all, other than them throwing a snit over losing the Presidential election.

And, even with a D president and D majority in the senate, they have absolutely driven both the public discussion, which they always do, but also Washington DC.

They are meaner and nastier than Ds ever will be by a large margin and the national media kisses their asses at every turn.

It has to be tragically bad for them for Ds to get anything done, and they WILL make hay on any major negative event - 9-11, which was the only reason Bush I saw a second term, and the economic downturn now.

[AlinPA]

10. No. They control PA. State House, State Senate, Governor, 13/18 US House seats, and one US Senate

seat. We have a long way to go to say that they are dead.

[Cosmocat]

21. I feel you brother

They have a death grip on PA ...

It isn't wing nut Bama bad, but short of the absolute most looney stuff, we are stuck with their corporate facism crape probably the rest of our lives.

[Kablooie]

11. They are the cockroaches of politics. They will never be wiped out.

No matter how much you fight them they will never completely go away and you have to constantly fumigate just to keep them in check.

[Cosmocat]

18. YEP

I did not think they were "dead" but that demographics would over time make it hard for them after 06 and 08.

Then 2010 came and for not reason at all, none, this country both turned over most of the states to their control just in time for the census AND had one of the biggest swings to them in congress in our lives.

No reason for it at all, other than them throwing a snit over losing the Presidential election.

And, even with a D president and D majority in the senate, they have absolutely driven both the public discussion, which they always do, but also Washington DC.

They are meaner and nastier than Ds ever will be by a large margin and the national media kisses their asses at every turn.

It has to be tragically bad for them for Ds to get anything done, and they WILL make hay on any major negative event - 9-11, which was the only reason Bush I saw a second term, and the economic downturn now.

[Herlong]

12. Nope

Still alive and kicking in my neck of the woods. In fact, Sean Hannity and Rushed Limbaugh are cranked up to eleven on a daily basis in my neck of the woods. The only thing I can figure, if love is blind, hatred is blind, deaf, dumb and brain dead.

[Myrina]

13. Far from it.

Take a look at any of the BS pieces of legislation being put up in any of a number of states.
I think it is our side who is close to finally dead. The Christofascists have just about won & American voters have no idea yet what they've done to themselves.

[Cosmocat]

19. YEP

I did not think they were "dead" but that demographics would over time make it hard for them after 06 and 08.

Then 2010 came and for not reason at all, none, this country both turned over most of the states to their control just in time for the census AND had one of the biggest swings to them in congress in our lives.

No reason for it at all, other than them throwing a snit over losing the Presidential election.

And, even with a D president and D majority in the senate, they have absolutely driven both the public discussion, which they always do, but also Washington DC.

They are meaner and nastier than Ds ever will be by a large margin and the national media kisses their asses at every turn.

It has to be tragically bad for them for Ds to get anything done, and they WILL make hay on any major negative event - 9-11, which was the only reason Bush I saw a second term, and the economic downturn now.

[Doctor_J]

15. I wish we still had DUzys

you post would be a winner. Completely ridiculous.

[Cary]

24. Why would that be? They are cyclical.

1932, 1948, 1964...

Their radicals hijack the party, get their asses handed to them, and then moderates take over again. Some projections have them losing Texas, and then what?

It's not ridiculous. Their demographic is dying off and they continue to lose ground in every demographic that's growing, which is what one would expect given that they hate everyone except the oligarchy.

What's ridiculous is that they themselves can't figure out something so obvious.

[lastlib]

16. They're like vampires--until you drive the silver stake thru the heart,......

...and hang the garlic around the neck, and bury them in the sealed tomb, they'll come back......."conservatism" is not dead yet. Sadly, I really don't think it ever will be.

[Cosmocat]

20. YEP

I did not think they were "dead" but that demographics would over time make it hard for them after 06 and 08.

Then 2010 came and for not reason at all, none, this country both turned over most of the states to their control just in time for the census AND had one of the biggest swings to them in congress in our lives.

No reason for it at all, other than them throwing a snit over losing the Presidential election.

And, even with a D president and D majority in the senate, they have absolutely driven both the public discussion, which they always do, but also Washington DC.

They are meaner and nastier than Ds ever will be by a large margin and the national media kisses their asses at every turn.

It has to be tragically bad for them for Ds to get anything done, and they WILL make hay on any major negative event - 9-11, which was the only reason Bush I saw a second term, and the economic downturn now.

[DFW]

22. The extremist right loves to hijack terms

Frank Luntz is alive and well and living in luxury.

I am conservative, but I sure as hell am not "a conservative," at least not as it is used in Foxese.

[Montoya]

23. conservatism

We can only hope its dead. Conservatism is the bane of America.