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malthaussen

(17,065 posts)
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:47 AM Aug 2016

What we're up against

I'm going to violate protocol and re-post a pro-Trump screed that one of my RW cousins sent me. The reason is to hear, from the virtual lips of a Trump supporter, exactly why they are behind him.

"Ok people, soap box moment.........
Millions of trump supporters feel this way about Donald J. Trump....."We don't care if the guy swears... or how many times he's been married...or who he voted for, or what his income tax return shows. We want the problems fixed. Yes he's an egomaniac, but we don't care. We know he's not a racist, or bad to women, or all the other things the liberal media is trying to label him with. We know he's raised a good family, and that says a lot about him.
The country is a mess because politicians suck, the Republican Party is two faced & gutless, and illegals are everywhere and Muslims are openly trying to hurt this country and make the civilized world adjust to them. We want it all fixed!
We don't care that Trump is crude, we don't care that he has changed positions, we don't care that he fights with Megan Kelly, Rosie O'Donnell, and so many of the elected establishment. We don't care that Rubio, Cruz, Ryan, the Bush's, and so many other top old and new Republicans refuse to endorse him for their own selfish reasons, and we know what they are. We don't care that he doesn't know the name of some Muslim terrorists, we don't care that he tried some businesses that didn't work out.
This country is weak, bankrupt, our enemies are making fun of us, we are being invaded by illegals, we are becoming a nation of victims, where every Tom, Ricardo and Hasid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in, AND WE JUST WANT IT FIXED. And TRUMP is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.
We're sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic and Republican Party. We're angry about the Iran deal, the budget, treatment of Israel, military weakness, lobbyists, special interests, overpaid politicians with their self serving bills and back room deals, trade deals, loss of jobs, manipulated economic numbers, businesses fleeing, and even the phoney pay for play Clinton Foundation.
Americans are no longer going to be fooled, and the movement is out to change the direction we're taking. Trump may not be a saint, but he doesn't have lobbyist money holding him, he doesn't have political correctness restraining him, and all you know is that he has been very successful, a good negotiator, he has built a lot of things, he's flexible, and he's also not a politician. And he says he'll fix it. And we believe him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked at and called a liar.
Public service has become elected greed. This may be our only chance to have a non-politician, despite his flaws, try and correct the mess, at least for 4 years. We must take the shot, because the consequences of putting Hillary Clinton in office are frightening. There is a tidal wave happening, and its going to overcome much of what's happened to this country."


I don't blame you if you can't make it through the whole thing, so here are the high points (I use the term loosely): yes, we know Donald Trump is a cretin, and we don't care, because he is the only cretin who listens to us and he promises to make things better.

That, in a nutshell, is why people are supporting Mr Trump, as a few savvy analysts have been telling us for some time.

I find it interesting that the author says Mr Trump will succeed in his promises because he is too much of an egomaniac to fail. I believe that is the first time I've seen that particular "argument."

This rant suggests that tactics based on demonstrating that Mr Trump is a cretin will not sway his supporters, who know it already. It also illustrates the frustration with "political correctness" which "make the civilized world adjust to them." I think this is a key to understanding the attitude of many of the privileged, or even of Christians or straight folk: they are being "forced to adjust." Mr Trump, then, appears to give them hope that they need not adjust.

-- Mal

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What we're up against (Original Post) malthaussen Aug 2016 OP
Sure such people exist. In droves. Just not the 60+million he needs. whatthehey Aug 2016 #1
keep your eyes open. runaway hero Aug 2016 #5
They are open. I'll take bets on it if you like. Trump will not win. whatthehey Aug 2016 #6
Hillary will win runaway hero Aug 2016 #8
Define squeaker. EV or pop? What number or %? whatthehey Aug 2016 #9
EV runaway hero Aug 2016 #10
Nah! Hillary will win and it won't be close. brush Aug 2016 #11
Ignorant mobs have held the same views for decades bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #2
Nothing & no one can change that mindset. katsy Aug 2016 #3
Well said. narnian60 Aug 2016 #12
Thanks for posting this, my dear malthaussen! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2016 #4
"Backward, turn backward, oh time in your flight." malthaussen Aug 2016 #7

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
9. Define squeaker. EV or pop? What number or %?
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:09 AM
Aug 2016

Even if it IS close (and FWIW my guess is about 130EV or 5% so neither close nor landslide) the winner gets the job and that's all that matters. Margin is utterly irrelevant. Johnson was no more POTUS than GWB. A better one, but he had no more authority or scope.

runaway hero

(835 posts)
10. EV
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:23 AM
Aug 2016

I have this bad feeling Trump wins the pop. I dunno why. He's taken all these hits and still hasn't gone down. You're a right a win is a win, but sometimes a win is a safety valve and not a mandate.

brush

(53,467 posts)
11. Nah! Hillary will win and it won't be close.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:33 AM
Aug 2016

trump might not even make it to the finish after she demolishes him in the debates.

katsy

(4,246 posts)
3. Nothing & no one can change that mindset.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:53 AM
Aug 2016

By nothing, I mean it doesn't matter if the economy hums along brilliantly. It won't be enough.

It won't matter if we never suffer a terrorist attack ever.

These are just excuses for masking racism & bigotry. Safety & economic security can't fix that.

We can only hope to keep it together until these racists die off & hope the next generation escapes their hatred.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,297 posts)
4. Thanks for posting this, my dear malthaussen!
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:54 AM
Aug 2016

It's really interesting to read exactly what these Trump supporters are thinking.

Of course, they don't seem to realize that time does not reverse, and once things change, there's NO going back. The so-called good old days are dead and gone, and we must make the best of it.

K&R

malthaussen

(17,065 posts)
7. "Backward, turn backward, oh time in your flight."
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:03 AM
Aug 2016

Although Donald Trump as the image of the comforting mother seems incredible, there may be more to it than appears at first glance. One gets the impression that his supporters want to suck their collective thumb.

-- Mal

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