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progressoid

(49,827 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 10:26 AM Apr 2013

kpete posted this over in GD...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022746039

John Dunn • 3 days ago

Some people think it is likely that there is an incalculably intelligent, stupendously magical Being, and that this Being:

- Existed for >9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 x 10^infinity years before creating the angels, then X more years before creating the universe;

- Created >250,000,000,000 galaxies, each galaxy containing >150,000,000,000 suns, each sun having on average >1 planet;

- That this Being has seen, and remembers, each and every event on each and every one of these planets, suns, and galaxies for the last 13,700,000,000 years;

- That this Being waited 187,000 years after our species appeared on this planet before announcing Its existence 3,000 years ago to one of the minor civilizations of the time;

- That these appearances were only to a few members of this mostly illiterate nomadic bronze age tribe, that this Being imparted all of Its instructions to these few people, then never made a verifiable appearance on Earth again for the last 2,000 years.

Have I got that right?


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/23/1204230/-Best-Creationism-come-back-ever
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kpete posted this over in GD... (Original Post) progressoid Apr 2013 OP
I don't think there is a response to that from the perspective of faith. LiberalAndProud Apr 2013 #1
Sand LostOne4Ever Apr 2013 #2
Question. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #3

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
1. I don't think there is a response to that from the perspective of faith.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:02 AM
Apr 2013

My dear mother can't imagine not believing in God. As we were discussing my unbelief, she asked me how the order of the universe could emerge from chaos / nothingness.

After paraphrasing Carl Sagan. "The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by God one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity."

And then I asked, "Why is it more likely that the perfect mind of a creator has been here always and was never created but has always existed?"

She had no answer. I'll be watching that thread to see if someone else can counter the cognitive dissonance. And if they don't encounter cognitive dissonance, I wonder why not?

LostOne4Ever

(9,267 posts)
2. Sand
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:51 PM
Apr 2013

It does speak to the absurdity of it all, doesn't it?

Like picking up one grain of sand out of the middle of some unheard of beach and saying that all the rest of the world was created only for it's sake. Only the creationist claims is several million orders of magnitude more absurd than that.

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