Couples 2nd faith-healing baby death
HILADELPHIA (AP) - A Philadelphia couple - serving 10 years' probation for the 2009 death of their toddler after they turned to prayer instead of a doctor - has violated their probation now that another of their children has died.
Herbert and Catherine Schaible belong to a fundamentalist Christian church that believes in faith-healing
Philadelphia Judge Benjamin Lerner said at a hearing they violated the most important condition of their probation: to seek medical care for their remaining children.
Authorities have yet to file criminal charges in the death of the 8-month-old boy last week, after he suffered with diarrhea and breathing problems for days. But charges could be filed once authorities pinpoint how the baby died.
The couple is on probation after pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter in 2011 in the death of their 2-year-old son, Kent, from pneumonia.
Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/04/herbert-and-catherine-schaible-faith-healing-death-of-baby-87839.html#ixzz2RISSLiAu
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Or just a pitiful desperation tactic. I merely asked you if you thought the couple's religious beliefs were at least partly responsible for what happened to their children. Either you believe they were (you would answer "yes"
or you don't ("no" . It's not a trick question.
Like I said, I fully understand why you won't answer, and any further attempts at coyness, or additional smileys, will simply expose your true motives more.
If we refuse to acknowledge the role of religious beliefs in atrocities committed by humans, we won't learn a thing, and we will continue to enable the violence. I am sorry you would rather deny reality than admit there is any crack in your precious beliefs.
Have a blessed day, and may the peace and love of Jesus help you to be a better person!
Take care, buddy! 
Parents Prayed As Child Died
http://suite101.com/article/parents-prayed-as-child-died-a342887
... The Schaibles' attorneys maintain that this isn't a religious case. Despite worshiping at First Century Gospel Church, the Schaibles would have sought medical care for Kent had they known how sick he was, the attorneys said ...
Such a response, of course, might be expected: given their circumstances, illness in the family may naturally produce a fair amount of denial and wishful thinking.
Their "pastor" -- who is possibly the most educated person with whom the parents have any regular contact -- certainly hasn't helped, since he is an anti-medicine man, who brags he has never taken medicine or been to a doctor, warns that medical mistakes are the leading cause for death nowadays, and distributes materials noting that medical insurance, hospital fees, and prescription costs today are enormous, while offering free healing through prayer. Those, who are unable to afford insurance, and who are terrified by the possible costs of medical treatment, might naturally seek rationalizations for not seeking modern treatment ("it's dangerous!"
and for seeking other alternatives ("it's free!"
attempting to sabotage any real discussion of the 700 pound elephant in the room, the role and responsibility of religious belief in this whole affair. What you accuse me of ("sloganeering" is merely a response to your desperation to blame this incident on anything BUT religious belief. This is irresponsible and directly contributes to the privileged position that any political belief (when wedded to religion) enjoys.
When we are not able to honestly discuss the role of religion and its appropriateness as a justification in public policy and societal affairs, we all suffer. You empower the religious right and marginalize non-believers.
