Religion
Related: About this forumHeartbreaking new poll: a third of Americans want Christianity as the state religion
You can download the polls results here, but they occupy only one page, so here it is:
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The ignorance and religiosity burns on this one and, although Im perfectly aware that America is the most religious of First world countries, I found these results surprising. 42% dont know that state religions are banned, and more than a third of our citizens want either a state or a national religion of Christianity. Nearly 40% want more mixing of church and state.
These people are not only unaware of what the Constitution saysany immigrant taking the test for U.S. citizenship would know betterbut also want the Constitution amended so that we can hang crucifixes on every classroom wall. This is all a direct abrogation of what our nations founders wanted and intended when they drafted our Constitution.
We have a long way to go!
http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2013/04/07/heartbreaking-new-poll-a-third-of-americans-want-christianity-as-the-state-religion/
djean111
(14,255 posts)Would it be like the state bird and the state flower? I don't really care what those are, really.
Just another little wiki factoid?
Or would it be proselytized in schools, emblazoned on buildings, fealty required?
What a stupid and grandiose concept, never mind the separation of church and state thing.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)And only 31% were strongly opposed. I'd say those are worrying numbers.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I agree that religious affiliation is going down, but, perhaps as a consequence, the fundamentalists seems to have gotten a lot noisier lately.
It would be interesting to see if anyone has the percentages for a similar poll conducted in previous years. Say, 10, 20, 30, 40 & 50 years ago. Considering how little outrage there has been over the recent blatant 4th amendment violations, I feel a lot less secure about the 1st amendment now.
longship
(40,416 posts)We've got a lot of work to do on this issue. We can start in civics class.
R&K
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Theocracy is one of the worst types of governments.
madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)Can you imagine the war over "which" Christianity got to be in charge?
Yikes.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)How about the citizens? What happens if we defy god's commands?
If it's Christians, which Christian cult gets to set the rules? Or does each colony state make it's own? Which version of the Ten Commandments becomes official? And what does that mean?
--imm
woofless
(2,670 posts)I have known for decades that at least a third of us are batshit crazy or dumb as a stump, or any combination of the two mixed with venality and selfishness. Unfortunately they are over represented in our Congress.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)who say this ALREADY IS a "Christian nation".
Only 1/3 actually wanting Christianity to be the official religion seems like real progress to me.
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)that a handful of wackadoodles in NC introduced a bill Tuesday calling for an official state religion, replete with whackadoodle references to the Tenth Amendment. The bill was referred to committee the same day; by Thusday even rightwing Franklin Graham was opposing it, and the House leadership had said the bill was dead; and by Saturday, one of the bills sponsors was in the newspapers, apologizing for the bill. That is, it lasted about as long as would have been expected for any other really wackadoodle bill, rather comparable to what might have be expected if it had instead called for all North Carolinians to go outside and take off their clothes at noon Sunday to await the opening of the Stargate Portal and transport to Alpha Centauri
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2013/04/04/a-state-religion-whats-next-north-carolina-secession/
A state religion? Whats next, North Carolina, secession?
Posted by Mary C. Curtis on April 4, 2013 at 9:31 am
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/05/north-carolina-lawmaker-backtracks-on-push-to-allow-state-religion/
North Carolina lawmaker backtracks on push to allow state religion
Published April 05, 2013
The Republicans in control of the NC General Assembly are currently pushing a suite of bills intended to limit access to the polls, so it's rather silly IMO to spend time whacking a dead monkey
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)I find nothing scary in these numbers. Even if states were to adopt official religions, it wouldn't be that big a deal unless they had a say in government and were used to oppress, which occasionally happens in countries that do have official state religions, like Saudi Arabia. However, it is rarely an issue in the many countries and regions that do have official religions. These countries include England, Scotland, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, various cantons of Switzerland, Japan, Tibet, Morocco and many more countries that are more tolerant than the US when it comes to religion. Such irony.