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skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:32 AM Apr 2013

Chicago Cardinal George vehemently opposes marriage equality, along with other upstanding religious

Cardinal Francis George spoke out against the "redefinition of marriage" this morning, joined by a number of African-American pastors who are opposed to legalizing gay marriage in Illinois.

The head of the Chicago Catholic archdiocese said legally changing the Biblical meaning of marriage "will not serve the common good of our people and will certainly lose the sense of family that is the basis of our understanding of who we are."

George said the nature of marriage "goes back to a sexual expression based upon the complementarity of men and women."
"Anything outside of that is morally wrong," he said.

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"We love people, period, but there are certain principals we must stand on," said Bishop Willie James Campbell, of the Chicago-based Church of God in Christ. "We are biblically, spiritually against it. The Bible is our guide, our road map."




http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cardinal-george-speaks-out-against-redefinition-of-marriage-20130405,0,7469603.story
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Chicago Cardinal George vehemently opposes marriage equality, along with other upstanding religious (Original Post) skepticscott Apr 2013 OP
When organized religion starts following The Bible 100 percent, I may pay more attention AndyA Apr 2013 #1
So says the man not allowed to marry, or have sex... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #2
and dressed in red silks and scarves. rurallib Apr 2013 #3
you noticed that the new guy does`t wear red shoes. madrchsod Apr 2013 #4
So what? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #5
Oh, in that case... trotsky Apr 2013 #6
When he washes the feet skepticscott Apr 2013 #7
So far, all Pope Francis has managed is great looking photo ops. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #9
He can come to my parish because we have three priests and two are female. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #10
Wow, the Catholic church has started ordaining women?? skepticscott Apr 2013 #11
LOL no Episcopalian. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #12
Obviously that wasn't skepticscott Apr 2013 #13
I know but when you said priest my response came to mind. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #14
The Bible is our guide, our road map. dimbear Apr 2013 #8
Then it's a good thing his jurisdiction is limited to Canon Law. rug Apr 2013 #15
His jurisdiction perhaps skepticscott Apr 2013 #16
Everybody tries to influence public opinion. rug Apr 2013 #17
So your post about his "jurisdiction" being limited was basically meaningless skepticscott Apr 2013 #18
I'm sure it was meaningless to you. rug Apr 2013 #19
Catholics against marriage equality? Iggo Apr 2013 #20

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
1. When organized religion starts following The Bible 100 percent, I may pay more attention
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:38 AM
Apr 2013

to what they say, but not until then.

I'm sick and tired of organized religions picking and choosing what parts of The Bible they want to believe verbatim, and which ones they ignore completely because it's just not convenient for them to follow.

There are a lot of passages in The Bible that contradict this belief, like doing unto others, casting the first stone, etc.

If you love people, you don't judge them. You love them and don't treat them differently because of things they do that you don't like. If The Bible is their road map, they've taken the wrong exit somewhere.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
2. So says the man not allowed to marry, or have sex...
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:39 AM
Apr 2013

...and i think the catholic church is in no position to talk about morals whatsoever...

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Oh, in that case...
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:32 AM
Apr 2013

it's totally cool that his church officially opposes equality for women and homosexuals. My bad!

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
9. So far, all Pope Francis has managed is great looking photo ops.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 05:02 PM
Apr 2013

Let me know when he actually makes real policy changes in the RCC. So far, all I've seen is the same old homophobic and misogynistic shit.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
11. Wow, the Catholic church has started ordaining women??
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 06:16 PM
Apr 2013

That's great! Get the news out! Change from within is upon us!!

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
8. The Bible is our guide, our road map.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 04:06 PM
Apr 2013

It's a remarkable fact that the geography in the New Testament is often wrong. Clearly the authors of the gospels in some cases had never been near the lands discussed. As a road map, the Bible can safely be said to suck. Suggest same as a moral guide.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
16. His jurisdiction perhaps
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 08:26 PM
Apr 2013

but not his influence. If all he were concerned with was enforcing Catholic canon law, there would be no need for a media circus with other religious leaders. He's trying to influence public opinion and public policy, not simply things internal to the Catholic Church.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
18. So your post about his "jurisdiction" being limited was basically meaningless
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 08:45 PM
Apr 2013

thanks for confirming that.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
19. I'm sure it was meaningless to you.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 08:53 PM
Apr 2013

Objectively, however, there is a vast difference between a public figure opining on marriage and a public figure having any power to enact that opinion.

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