Religious circumcision ritual leaves 2 Brooklyn infants with herpes
The unidentified baby boys became sick after the centuries-old, ultra-Orthodox ritual associated with the bris known as metzizah b’peh.
Under the practice, the rabbi or mohel removes blood from the wound on the baby’s penis with his mouth — a practice city Health Department officials have slammed, saying it carries “inherent risks” for babies.
The Bloomberg administration has moved to require mohels who perform the ritual to provide parents with a document informing them of the health risks involved. The parents must then sign a consent form.
But several influential religious Jewish organizations have sued, arguing the policy violates the First Amendment.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/religious-circumcision-ritual-leaves-2-brooklyn-infants-herpes-article-1.1308205
Uhm, yeah, not being able to suck the blood from the genital mutilation wound you just inflicted on an infant is a violation of your rights.
There was a recent discussion about what constituted indoctrination or forcing beliefs onto children. If THIS isn't forcing another's religious beliefs onto a child...
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No parent should have the right to hack off part of an infant's penis.
Get rid of contaminated mohels.
NO FIRST Amendment issue AT ALL!!!
Agree 100% abt red herring.
These babies probably got Holy Herpes. THey should feel blessed. plus, they'll get fewer bladder infections, so it's all good 
The pretzel-twisting logic by the usual crew here is staggering. I've seen some crazy things given the "a-ok" or "great post" seal of approval but finding ways to completely minimize these infants being given incurable, highly contagious viral infections that will affect them for their ENTIRE LIVES, and that will affect every. single. intimate. relationship they have, and that will affect every. single. person. they are intimate with...it's staggering. How these folks can sleep at night is beyond me. THESE ARE BABIES. but, who gives a shit? It's just herpes! Who gives a shit? It was done for religious reasons. Fuck off if you have a problem with it.
Sickening. absolutely sickening.
anti-circumcision comments in the thread (such as "All circumcision on infants should be illegal" or "Cutting off part of a child's genitals counts as physical child abuse"
, so it seems entirely appropriate to note in the thread that circumcision does appear to have some medical benefits
You might want to read what I wrote again and try to find anything I said supporting the mutilation of babies, be it via religious ritual, or unethical medical practice. Let alone where I suggested hospital circumcisions were "WORSE" in some way. I said I wonder more, because I expect more ethical behavior from medical doctors, than I do from witch doctors.
You might also want to ponder how religious beliefs can be "forced" on a victim who is still an infant.
May I also suggest a nice cup of tea to help you relax.
How you translated it is mind boggling. If you think that infecting babies with herpes is forcing a belief on them, then you must live in some alternative reality.
Circumcision is a BARBARIC practice, period. Performing it under sterile conditions lessens the chance of infection, but does not diminish the fact that it is BARfuckingBARIC.
On a barbarism scale of 1-10, I'll give circumcision in a hospital a 9+, and a penis sucking, herpes spreading circumcision an 11+. That means BOTH are bad. The only difference is that one is performed by a guy who thinks he's obeying God, which is a pretty pathetic excuse, especially for those who don't share his delusions; and the other is doing it because of what? Penile cancer? The spread of STDs? Right, a baby with penile cancer and STDs (barring those who've had their willies sucked by herpes infected mohels, of course). No, for MONEY!!! That's right, the Almighty Dollar, that great American symbol of infallibility. Personally, whether they do it for profit or for the prophet, I think it is equally sick.
Now, I always find a nice cup of tea helps, especially when one is feeling a little hyper or out of sorts. And please, don't confuse a friendly little peck on the cheek with a hug. There's a big difference, and there is nothing ritualistic about it.
Hope you feel better soon. 
I'm sure there are places where you might fit in better, or you could just put everyone on ignore and respond to your own posts.
Anyway, I send you the best of wishes and hope you manage to feel better. Seriously, tea is a wonderful tonic.
Been here since 2001, never banned, read pretty much every day unless something more pressing is occuring, like school or life.
And I have never used ignore, never will, although it's so tempting when I read the apologetic and white-washing regarding these poor infants and their lifetime herpes infection.
But it's just a ritual, right, so it's okay according to you. Much worse that they get it done in a hospital because it's done there for MONEY...not religion
I whitewash nothing. If anything, you whitewash the practice of hospital/business sanctioned sexual mutiation of children, because their parents request them. Did you ever stop to think why those parents request doctors to mutilate their babies?
Congratulations on your longevity here at DU. May the rest of your time here be even more enjoyable. Try not to take things too personally. You are obviously a good person, but not everyone is going to agree with your take on everything. That's why it's called a discussion board.
