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rug

(82,333 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:25 AM Apr 2013

Bangladesh arrests three atheist bloggers

By AFP
Published: April 2, 2013

DHAKA: Bangladesh police have arrested three atheist bloggers for allegedly defaming Islam and the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), police said Tuesday, amid calls from religious fundamentalists for an Internet crackdown.

The arrest of the three, who were paraded in handcuffs at a news conference, followed pressure from Islamic groups who have organised a march from all over the country to the capital to demand the death penalty for atheist bloggers.

“They have hurt the religious feelings of the people by writing against different religions and their prophets and founders including the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh),” said deputy commissioner of Dhaka police, Molla Nazrul Islam.

The three could face 10 years in jail if convicted under the country’s cyber laws which outlaw “defaming” a religion, Islam said.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/530041/bangladesh-arrests-three-atheist-bloggers

If I find their names, I'll post them.

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Bangladesh arrests three atheist bloggers (Original Post) rug Apr 2013 OP
This illustrates why it's vital DavidDvorkin Apr 2013 #1
I don't particularly disagree but in this case, tearing down the wall they're being put up against rug Apr 2013 #2
Agree. cbayer Apr 2013 #4
Poor folk skepticscott Apr 2013 #3
Well, gcomeau Apr 2013 #6
You may have a point skepticscott Apr 2013 #7
If you think being paraded around in handcuffs is the result of hurt feelings, rug Apr 2013 #8
Quote skepticscott Apr 2013 #10
Yes I do. rug Apr 2013 #11
And the police official skepticscott Apr 2013 #12
Lol, that reminds me of Cheney's justification for Iraq. rug Apr 2013 #13
However, the Islamists getting sentenced are the opposition muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #14
I suspect both the bloggers and Islamists are getting played on this. rug Apr 2013 #15
I'm sure you'd love to simply invent one skepticscott Apr 2013 #16
No need to invent. I can read. rug Apr 2013 #17
the tyranny of islamic bullies - soon the USA will be subject to laws such as this nt msongs Apr 2013 #5
Oh, brother. rug Apr 2013 #9

DavidDvorkin

(19,469 posts)
1. This illustrates why it's vital
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:44 PM
Apr 2013

to fight against the removal of even the smallest brick in Jefferson's Wall.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. I don't particularly disagree but in this case, tearing down the wall they're being put up against
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:47 PM
Apr 2013

is a lot more urgent.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
3. Poor folk
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:52 PM
Apr 2013

have had their feewings hurt, and have been conditioned by their religion to regard this as a horrible crime, warranting violence and punishment in response. Does anything but religion inspire such victimhood and insecurity?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. If you think being paraded around in handcuffs is the result of hurt feelings,
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:26 PM
Apr 2013

you're missing something.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
10. Quote
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:50 PM
Apr 2013

“They have hurt the religious feelings of the people by writing against different religions and their prophets and founders including the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh),” said deputy commissioner of Dhaka police, Molla Nazrul Islam. Do you have a better justification for it than someone directly involved?

Call it hurt feelings, call it offense, call it whatever. When you boil it down, that's all blasphemy laws are about. And blasphemy laws go much further than simply parading people through the streets, as do the sentiments of religious people who have had their feewings hurt (as attested to in the very article you quoted)

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
11. Yes I do.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:55 PM
Apr 2013
The arrests came as Bangladesh has been hit by violent protests over a war crimes tribunal which is trying leading people who opposed the country’s independence from Pakistan during the 1971 liberation war.

Protests encouraged by secular bloggers have seen hundreds of thousands of people take to the streets demanding the execution of leaders of the Jamaat-e-Islami party, the country’s largest Islamic party and key opposition.

Islamic groups have in turn held demonstrations demanding the trials be halted and have also begun targeting bloggers.

The government has blocked about a dozen websites and blogs to stem the unrest. It also set up a panel, which included intelligence chiefs, to snoop for blasphemy in the social media.


Also from that article.
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
12. And the police official
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:06 PM
Apr 2013

justifying parading these people through the streets this didn't see fit to use ANY of this as a justification? Strange, don't you think? He seemed to think it was all about blasphemy.

Bangladesh police have arrested three atheist bloggers for allegedly defaming Islam and the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), police said Tuesday, amid calls from religious fundamentalists for an Internet crackdown.

The three could face 10 years in jail if convicted under the country’s cyber laws which outlaw “defaming” a religion, Islam said.

This is about blasphemy, pure and simple, as your own source emphasizes over and over.

Nice try, though.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
13. Lol, that reminds me of Cheney's justification for Iraq.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:11 PM
Apr 2013

Since when do you take a government official's, particularly an authoritarian official's, public rationales at face value?

Sorry to distrurb your world view but this is but the latest episode of government using religion for political purposes.

Here's some background for you.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/life-term-for-jamaat-leader-over-1971-crimes/article4382111.ece

Sorry it doesn't mention the Catholic Church anywhere. You'll just have to cope.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
14. However, the Islamists getting sentenced are the opposition
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:50 PM
Apr 2013

so it's not immediately obvious that the government official is making excuses for revenge on bloggers who are anti-opposition.

The ruling Awami League, secular parties, freedom fighters and pro-liberation organisations expressed “acute disappointment” at the “butcher of Mirpur” not being handed down a death sentence.

Law Minister Shafique Ahmed and Attorney-General Mahbub e Alam said they may consider appealing against the verdict at the Supreme Court. On Tuesday, Jamaat, which began a violent campaign in November against the trial, torched scores of vehicles and blasted Molotov cocktails injuring many policemen. The Islamist party has also threatened a “civil war” unless government stops the trial. In Chittagong, a man was killed in gunfight between police and pro-strike activists. Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina has repeatedly said her government would not backtrack on the trial process.


Perhaps they needed someone to throw to the wolves to calm the rioting Islamists, and picked on the atheist bloggers. But it still means that hurt feelings of Muslims, whether the opposition Islamists or the more general population, are involved.
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
16. I'm sure you'd love to simply invent one
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:26 PM
Apr 2013

that supports your argument and say that the one repeated over and over in the article you cited must be false because it doesn't. The rest of us live on planet earth, though.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
17. No need to invent. I can read.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:31 PM
Apr 2013

The difference between you and me is that I read the whole thing and think before I post.

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