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NeoGreen

(4,030 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 07:28 AM Jul 2020

Survey: 82% of White Evangelicals Would Vote for Trump if Elections Were Today

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/07/01/survey-82-of-white-evangelicals-would-vote-for-trump-if-elections-were-today/




Survey: 82% of White Evangelicals Would Vote for Trump if Elections Were Today
By Hemant Mehta, July 1, 2020

As recently as a week ago, there were headlines about how Joe Biden might be peeling away support from the one voting bloc Donald Trump can’t afford to lose: white evangelicals. The pathetic photo op in front of a church that was preceded by the tear-gassing of protesters was seen as a kind of tipping point for when evangelicals would move away from him.

Roughly 81% of them voted for Trump in 2016, and with a number that high, it can really only go down. And given Trump’s thin margins of victory in a handful of swing states, a small drop-off could be disastrous for his re-election efforts (which would be fantastic news for everyone else).

This time around, those white evangelicals will have to weigh their support for Trump’s unrelenting stream of anti-abortion judicial nominees and constant lip service to their faith with… well, *gesturing wildly in all directions*. Would the pandemic, or the story about Trump ignoring the Russian bounty on American troops, or a faltering economy do anything to push those conservative Christians in Biden’s direction?

Now we know.

They’re not budging.
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Survey: 82% of White Evangelicals Would Vote for Trump if Elections Were Today (Original Post) NeoGreen Jul 2020 OP
They are destroying what they claim to love most of all with their rank, rank, rank hypocrisy hlthe2b Jul 2020 #1
And all other 'xians' of apparent caucasian decent who decry the evangelicals... NeoGreen Jul 2020 #2
Trump won in 2016 because most Christians voted for him. Mariana Jul 2020 #19
bottom line, trump has brought massive victories and why would they not support him. They have NO beachbumbob Jul 2020 #3
Sycophant is as... NeoGreen Jul 2020 #4
yep, they all attract each other for sure and karma can help with some of this beachbumbob Jul 2020 #5
In other words, 82% of white evangelicals would vote for a racist, bigot, and sexist if the election still_one Jul 2020 #6
Yep, as would 54% of apparently caucasian catholics... NeoGreen Jul 2020 #7
and over 75% of American Jews will NOT vote for trump, though that isn't listed in still_one Jul 2020 #14
White evangelicals now make up 17% of the population edhopper Jul 2020 #8
And what percent of the population are apparently caucasian catholics and protetants?... NeoGreen Jul 2020 #9
Right now edhopper Jul 2020 #10
Not according to the Pew data presented above... NeoGreen Jul 2020 #11
That chart edhopper Jul 2020 #12
The dark blue is 'strong approve' the light blue is 'approve' and together they give... NeoGreen Jul 2020 #13
A quote/excerpt from your cited source... NeoGreen Jul 2020 #15
That was Jan edhopper Jul 2020 #16
Pew's data appears to contradict that result... NeoGreen Jul 2020 #17
Their support for Trump is religious in nature. Mariana Jul 2020 #18
They have apparently read only parts of their "holy book".. Permanut Jul 2020 #20
Everyone who quotes the Bible does so selectively. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2020 #21

hlthe2b

(101,700 posts)
1. They are destroying what they claim to love most of all with their rank, rank, rank hypocrisy
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 07:47 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:18 AM - Edit history (1)

These "Xians" long ago removed Christ from the equation, but now they no longer need fear atheists, agnostics, or those of other religions diminishing the importance of faith in this country. They are doing it all themselves.

NeoGreen

(4,030 posts)
2. And all other 'xians' of apparent caucasian decent who decry the evangelicals...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:09 AM
Jul 2020

...should take care that they're not just the pot-calling-the-kettle-black. None of them look good here:



Mariana

(14,847 posts)
19. Trump won in 2016 because most Christians voted for him.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 09:24 PM
Jul 2020

He can't win if he doesn't get the majority of the Christians' votes again this time. Splitting them 50-50 won't do it. He needs the majority of Christians to vote for him or he loses.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. bottom line, trump has brought massive victories and why would they not support him. They have NO
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:43 AM
Jul 2020

real religious understanding at all and all they believe in is a bunch of croc

still_one

(91,937 posts)
6. In other words, 82% of white evangelicals would vote for a racist, bigot, and sexist if the election
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:09 AM
Jul 2020

were held today

NeoGreen

(4,030 posts)
7. Yep, as would 54% of apparently caucasian catholics...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:20 AM
Jul 2020

...and 52% of apparently caucasian protestants...

still_one

(91,937 posts)
14. and over 75% of American Jews will NOT vote for trump, though that isn't listed in
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jul 2020

the demographic from the OP, but grouped in the "other" category

edhopper

(33,164 posts)
8. White evangelicals now make up 17% of the population
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:20 AM
Jul 2020

and he gets 82% of them. BFD, That's roughly 15% of the vote. Everything he does to keep them pushes away more and more of the other 85% of the voters.

NeoGreen

(4,030 posts)
9. And what percent of the population are apparently caucasian catholics and protetants?...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:23 AM
Jul 2020

....since they support drumpf by a majority also.

Not a BFD!?

I'll say it again: A Sycophant is as Sycophant does, whether in politics or in other.

NeoGreen

(4,030 posts)
11. Not according to the Pew data presented above...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:30 AM
Jul 2020

...he's carrying approval from more than 'white men', he is carrying >50% approval with certain religious classes too, i.e. subsets, but large portions, of those who identify at catholic, protestant and evangelical.

edhopper

(33,164 posts)
12. That chart
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:34 AM
Jul 2020

does not show any approval over 50% for any groups but White Evangelicals. Which Pew also says is only 17% of the population.

The survey I posted says his approval is even lower with the other groups.

But my point is, the more he chases the White Evangelical vote, the more he loses other voters.

NeoGreen

(4,030 posts)
13. The dark blue is 'strong approve' the light blue is 'approve' and together they give...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:38 AM
Jul 2020

..net approval.

Plus, I would trust data presented from Pew more than any data presented by 'thecatholictelegraph', any day of the week, especially sunday.

NeoGreen

(4,030 posts)
15. A quote/excerpt from your cited source...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:48 AM
Jul 2020

...

According to the poll of 1,512 Catholic registered voters conducted from Jan. 28 through Feb. 4, 58% of white non-Hispanic Catholics approved of Trump “strongly” or “somewhat,” and 53% said they were either sure to vote for him in November or there was a “strong chance” they would.

edhopper

(33,164 posts)
16. That was Jan
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:02 AM
Jul 2020

now:

The Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) reported on Thursday that President Trump’s favorability among white Catholics fell from 60% in March to 48% in April to just 37% in May.

NeoGreen

(4,030 posts)
17. Pew's data appears to contradict that result...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jul 2020

...and is both more recent and has greater detail in the breakdown of sub-groups and levels of approval.

Plus there is this:

Mariana

(14,847 posts)
18. Their support for Trump is religious in nature.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jul 2020

They believe he is God's own hand-picked man for the office of President, whom God raised up and put in place to implement his will. Opposition to Trump, therefore, is the same as opposition to God. Nothing he does or doesn't do, is ever going to convince them otherwise.

The Bible is stuffed with stories about awful men who, according to the stories, God put into positions of great power over others, and showered with his favor and his blessings. These men perpetrated evil that Trump hasn't dreamed of doing, sometimes on God's direct orders, and God rewarded them for it. Considering this, there really isn't any way to convince Christians that God would never favor someone like Trump. The Bible very clearly tells them that the opposite is true.

Permanut

(5,436 posts)
20. They have apparently read only parts of their "holy book"..
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jul 2020

Romans 13:1:

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." Which would have included Barack Obama, of course.

Odd how they kinda ignored that verse from 2008 to 2016.

They also play the abortion card, ignoring the fact that the Republican-controlled Congress could have passed legislation related to abortion and Roe v. Wade in the two years 2017-2018, and Mango Mussolini would have signed it. They talk endlessly about abortion, and do nothing about it. Hypocrites.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
21. Everyone who quotes the Bible does so selectively.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:53 PM
Jul 2020

It's a mess of contradictions and worthless anachronisms with no consistent message save "toe the line or God will fuck you up".

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