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H2O Man

(73,323 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:04 PM Oct 2013

Boxing! 10-12

At Las Vegas (HBO PPV): Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, 12 rounds, for Bradley's WBO welterweight title.


This is an interesting bout; while it shouldn't be PPV (or should be at a low price), I'm looking forward to it.

Bradley is younger, and naturally bigger. While not a big power-puncher, he is able to set a pace few can keep up with. However, he can be hurt .....and was actually almost knocked out in his last fight.

Marquez is 40, and has been through many tough fights. He is coming off his career high -- flattening Manny Pacquiao -- and is looking to win a title in yet another weight class.

I think it is likely that at some point, perhaps in the 5th or 6th round, Marquez will catch Bradley coming forward, attempting to bang on the inside. If Marquez hurts him, he will take him out. If not, Bradley wins by decision in a bloody fight.

Is anyone else watching the card? Who do you pick to win?

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Boxing! 10-12 (Original Post) H2O Man Oct 2013 OP
Bradley wins. H2O Man Oct 2013 #1
Bradley's future TSIAS Oct 2013 #2

H2O Man

(73,323 posts)
1. Bradley wins.
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 11:45 AM
Oct 2013

Timothy Bradley won by split-decision. I thought that he clearly won the fight, and that Bradley won at least 8 of the 12 rounds.

It was evident that Bradley had focused on how Floyd Mayweather had easily outpointed Marquez; his strategy was to "stick and move" most of each round, while engaging in flurries from body to head, and then moving away before Marquez could counter.

Marquez had expected Bradley to be aggressive, and when that did not happen, Marquez attempted to stalk his much faster foe. The 40-year old has never been as effective moving forward, as moving backwards, setting his feet, and unleashing counter-punches. By coming forward and attempting to press the action, Marquez found himself being countered. Towards the end of the 12th round, Bradley caught Marquez with a solid counter-punch, sending him off-balance -- unhurt, but almost down.

Good fight. It earns Bradley consideration to fight Floyd next May. There has been talk about Amir Khan being Mayweather's next victim, but that assumes that he will beat Devon Alexander in December. While Khan certainly could win that fight, Alexander has an equally good chance to win. Bradley, of course, easily dominated Alexander in their fight, and would be heavily favored to defeat Khan.

Now that Bradley is the only boxer to hold wins over both Pacquiao and Marquez, and is an undefeated title-holder, he would likely generate more ticket sales against Mayweather than either Khan or Alexander (who has also been mentioned as a possible opponent for Floyd).

Marquez is, in my opinion, likely to announce his retirement soon. It'll last 14-16 months, and he'll embark on an ill-fated comeback.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
2. Bradley's future
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

For Bradley, his options are somewhat limited. I don't know his contract situation, but with Top Rank it is highly improbable that he gets a fight with Mayweather. That's unfortunate, since he would likely give Mayweather a very tough contest.

It looks like Amir Khan is off the Dec. 7 date at Barclays, instead focusing on a May date with Floyd. Looks like Devon Alexander will instead take on Shawn Porter.

Marquez clearly lost this fight. Watching it live, I scored it 8-4 for Bradley but expected widely divergent scorecards. I thought the fight might have gone either way, but the consensus seems to be that Bradley was a very deserving victor in this fight.

I would not be surprised if Marquez does retire. He only fought once this year, and seems only interested in big money PPV events at this point. Besides a 5th fight with Pacquiao, there just aren't many fights to be made that will offer him the $6 million guarantee he earned for his assignment against Bradley. He could try to challenge Mayweather again, and could argue that when they fought Marquez was a blown-up Lightweight against a strong Welterweight. Time, or perhaps PED's, has transformed Marquez into a solid Welterweight.

Seanie Monaghan has the potential to be a regional draw on Arum PPV cards with his brawling style.

Lomachenko did impress in his "Pro Debut", even though he did have 5 fights in the World Series of Boxing. Looks like they will try and place him in there with Salido and eventually Rigondeaux.

The quality of the card, and the tactical nature of the main event, made the evening a mild disappointment.

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