Kansas City Revokes naming Martin Luther King Blvd

[The Polack MSgt]

After invading a black church in a protest.

Turns out that white folks in Missouri are super concerned with following procedures.

I stay depressed about the shit-headedness of (to paraphrase Slim) folks who look like me, talk like me but are just not quite me.

What a fucking joke. I know some GOP pricks are pointing at this outcome as a counter balance to losing VA and KY.

AS IF THIS IS A VERIFICATION SHOWING THAT AMERICA AGREES WITH THEM. But it's for sure not racist...

fuck Missouri

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article237026484.html

[fleur-de-lisa]

1. WTF?

[aka-chmeee]

2. This not about racism

rather arrogance and stupidity in renaming it in the first place.

[The Polack MSgt]

3. Yeah. Ok.

How dare those people name a street running through the blackest part of town after MLK, without following proper city council procedures?

THE FUCKING NERVE OF THOSE PEOPLE!!!

Of course I am positive the mainly white mainly repug city council would have been receptive - After all it was just a complete coincidental over sight that lead to KCMO being the city with the largest black population with out a MLK Blvd to begin with

How much did you love that church invasion tho? That was sweet right?

Did you watch the protest?

Did you read the comments on all the various articles over this?

Did you ever once in your fucking life previously post a single fucking thing in the African American Group until you felt compelled to defend this shit?

IMMA GUESS NO

ETA - Ran an advanced search, aka-chmeee has No replies and no OPs in AA group.

[sheshe2]

4. First of all, you are posting in the African American (Group)

This not a forum it is a Group and respect is something that is required here. This is a group, not a forum. Groups often serve as safe havens for members who share similar interests and viewpoints.

Secondly. You walk in here and call African Americans and their allies arrogant and stupid when they honor the memory of MLK.

aka-chmeee
2. This not about racism

rather arrogance and stupidity in renaming it in the first place.

I suggest you delete your post.

[totodeinhere]

35. Fortunately, there is already a move to redo the application.

This time they are going to be sure to dot all of the i's and cross all of the t's and I'm hopeful that it will go through this time.

[mcar]

5. Not about racism?

Sure.

[The Polack MSgt]

6. You have been asked to self delete because this is the AA Group

Last edited Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:59 AM - Edit history (1)

And your post is not respectful to the members here.

A group is not the same as discussion forum as it is a more private and protected space.

Perhaps your issue is with me and if so, we can argue in DU mail away from other readers.

Perhaps you have an alternative take on the vote you'd like to expound upon - If so I advise you to take it to GD or seriously edit your tone.

But I doubt you will do either of those things since I suspect you are satisfied just shitting on our living room carpet and leaving.

So as a Host of this group I am asking you to delete this.

ETA. I have blocked this DU member from posting in The AA Group

[Cha]

9. That's an awfully insulting thing to say about those voting

to honor Dr Martin Luther King in this way.

This is the AA group.. you should self-delete.

[llashram]

22. It is all about racism

nothing more nothing less, even with all the obfuscation and misdirection as to unintended consequence related to "procedures" and local regulatory protocols that has racism as the intended motivation. The AA supporting this? All I see are AA's for t-rump.

[The Polack MSgt]

23. To be clear, aka-chmeee is blocked from posting in the AA Group

I buried the lede a bit by editing an earlier reply rather than posting an additional reply

[yardwork]

26. How do you know? Do you live there? Are you involved?

Unless you have deep understanding of this situation, on what basis do you dismiss the possibility of racism? How do you know?

As a white person, I am speaking up against another seeming example of a white person casually dismissing the possibility of racism, based on little to no information.

I'm asking you to provide evidence to support your statement or have the courtesy to apologize.

[littlemissmartypants]

7. What a convoluted mess.

This town council serves as a strong example of how not to do things. This jumped out at me:

Before the City Council voted to change The Paseo, Kansas City was one of the nation’s only major cities without a street named for King.

“So we’re the last to do that, and now we’ll be the first to strip that away if it were to occur,” Vernon Howard, president of the Kansas City chapter of SCLC, said in an interview last month

So much wrong on so many levels. The town should be embarrassed by this outrageous result.

[Cha]

8. I read about that yesterday, TPMSgt..

Sorry they took Martin Luther King's name away.

I hope from reading the article that they find an even better way to honor him.

[MrScorpio]

10. Here are some tweets on this matter...

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[Buckeye_Democrat]

11. Oh, noooooo!

I'm soooo concerned about this stupid shit!

[MrScorpio]

12. What does that mean?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

13. I'm more concerned about the end of humanity...

... that started in AFRICA to make you feel better.

[MrScorpio]

14. What the hell are you talking about?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

15. What are you talking about with that picture in the OP!?

A bunch of square windows?! WTF?!

Your post that apparently bothered you:

Link to tweet

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[MrScorpio]

16. Why are referring to a post I made in the Lounge?

It has nothing to do with a thread here in AA.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

17. Who gives a shit?!

That's the point!

Jesus Christ! We can destroy all complex life on the planet, and yet there's this so-called strife.

[MrScorpio]

19. As both the target of your nonsensical attack and a mod of this forum, I do.

So, I'm going to warn you this one time: Either you will delete all the posts you made in this thread, or I will take action as a mod.

What is your response?

[llashram]

24. this is the state

with a small town named Ferguson. So every decision to cause strife in the African-American community is suspect. Missouri is a Trump state. So I "give a shit" about this AND my planet also. Arrogance is name of the game here and is present in both problems of racism and the destruction of our planet.

[MrScorpio]

20. You have been blocked from making posts in this forum.

[yardwork]

25. Calm down. Notice that the windows are cockeyed. That was a Lounge post.

[brer cat]

21. They are not like me either, MSgt.

Neither are some of the DUers posting in this thread. I am going to propose "shit-headedness" as a new word to MW. That is sooo spot on.

[MuseRider]

27. Not this again!

You have to read more than the headlines. I was disgusted by some headline from people who do not know the area or the reasons for this.

I am sick and tired of having to write about this so please look at past posts. This had absolutely NOTHING to do with racisim.

I live close to KC, know the area pretty well and The Paseo very well. I am there frequently. This was the result of a dumb city rule that happened without asking the people and many of the votes against the renaming were from the black community.

This was NOT about racism. Please go read from those previous threads.

Here is one of the threads you might read. https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2391505

[The Polack MSgt]

29. No action for decades, then less than a year afterward it's revoked

Civil rights leaders who pushed for the change celebrated when the street signs went up, believing they had finally won a decades-long battle to honor King, which appeared to end Kansas City's reputation as one of the largest U.S. cities without a street named for him.

"Nothing to do with racism" is quite a stretch

[MuseRider]

30. There are many streets in KCMo named

after black leaders. This was not a vote to remove Dr. King but a vote to remove the naming of an iconic, predominantly black area without asking the people who live there.

I am guessing you know absolutely nothing about this except for the nasty headlines that popped up.

I am guessing that most people that are upset about this have not one freaking clue about the area and the people that were upset about it.

NOBODY voted to keep MLK off of a major street just this one because of it's long long history and the landmark nature of the blvd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paseo_(Kansas_City,_Missouri)

I would love to hear from people who live there. I have a son who lives on Vine street about 4 blocks from The Paseo as it has been called for many years and used as a landmark in the city. I know quite a few people who live there. It is a beautiful area and one I use to navigate the city I know but cannot easily drive in as do many other people.

If you are not where the vote and the issue took place or around where you would know the people involved then you probably should research more before blowing your top over something that is just a misdirected city council issue that needed to be corrected. There will be a large BLVD named after MLK, there is no argument that he deserves this tribute. To pick out a city icon and change it without a vote by the people affected by it is always a bad idea. This was a huge mistake but there will be a MLK blvd somewhere in the city and it will be one of many named after important black leaders.

I would love to hear from someone who lives in the Paseo with the opposite view of this than the one I have tried to point out. Of all the people I know from the area or living there now there is not a racist among them.

[The Polack MSgt]

31. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and the proof will soon be self evident

I certainly seem to have unrealistic expectations for the citizens of Missouri.

After all, 51 years and 7 months after his assassination is awfully soon... Hard to expect anything to get done this quickly.

[MuseRider]

32. That goes for me too

but 65 years of living very close to this area and spending more hours every year than I can count there I feel pretty sure about this.

I have no problem admitting I am wrong but this time I do not think I am.

I agree it seems to have taken a long time and I don't know why. I do know they are not lacking in streets named after black leaders but I do not know enough to tell you how many or even who most of them are.

I hope you are wrong. I certainly will be more than willing to extend my apologies if I am wrong. After all, my knowledge about this is through my son and friends and other relatives who live there and that is only a teeny tiny fragment of the voting population there.

I don't even particularly like KC and I know they have problems like all cities but this one I just think was a major f-up by the city causing a whole lot of people to feel a large life change forced upon them. They fought back and I think they know that there will be a large tribute in a more appropriate place done in a more democratic way.

Apology will come directly to you after this is all shaken out.

[The Polack MSgt]

33. I do appreciate your thoughts.

I live all the way across MO.

Just on the east side of the river in IL

And my experiences in the greater St Louis/SW Illinois area make me a cynical and pessimistic man.

Peace MoonRider

[MuseRider]

34. Peace to you too.

I live about 65 miles to the West of KC, in Kansas. I have always had relatives in KC and now my son's live there. They are both jazz musicians so I have spent a great deal of time in the area of The Paseo since it is close to (and may include but I do not know this) the Jazz district. It is right next door if not within that area.

I think it has been The Paseo for as long as I can remember and, like I said before, I know quite a few people who either live there or come from that specific area.

KC has it's problems like any large city and I cannot speak to much of that. I was reflecting the thoughts of those who live there and what I learned from the local news sources.

If you hear anything more it is important to know. I can imagine you are VERY sensitive to these city problems living where you are. It does not seem to happen much around here but I am pretty insulated in the country now.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

28. I used to live in Overland Park, KS,

so I know KCMO a bit. I happen also to know the recently elected mayor. Perhaps he can change the street name back by some sort of mayoral declaration.