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Related: About this forumPlease dont attack me- I want to give you a heads up - This is important stuff I don't fully underst
Most people probably dont know this but the US recently joined the WTO Government Procurement Agreement which means a gradual shift to international, e-portal mediated procurement of government goods AND SERVICES soon.
This procurement will be international, it will be open to dozens of countries to participate in.
Currently, US government procurement has extensive carve outs for businesses owned by women and minorities. I do not know if these carve outs are being preserved, they may well be, or they may not be. Much of the current public sector will likely be privatized in a process that began in the 1990s, this will accelerate it.
So here is a crosspost from "Good Reads" - It has a boring title but it is valuable info.
Let me go on the record here in saying that I think these carve outs for women and minority owned businesses should be preserved (and expended to include other Historically Disadvantaged Groups like non-marital children, and perhaps poor people generally) but I see them also as conflicting with new preferential priorities which are being reserved (in WTO at least) for Less Developed Countries (LDCs) firms. People need to be aware that this new system will likely not contain them without active input in the ongoing negotiations in Geneva and Brussels.
You can find out a bit about their side of the story at sites like http://tradeinservices.net and http://cuts-geneva.org
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The Limited Case for Permitting SME Procurement Preferences in the WTO Agreement on Government Procurement
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228121888
Women and minority owned businesses may lose their preferential carve outs in government procurement under the new globalization rules.
Additionally, there are other Historically Disadvantaged Individuals who should get help. Otherwise a lot of work that's currently done my Americans will be contracted out at low wages to low low bidding foreign firms.
Debt burdened Americans can't work for such low wages and won't get those jobs.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)This seem silly and dangerous! Why in heavens name would we want products from outside america for the government! Oh yeah cheaper labor. Profit rules workers well screw them! Amirite!
Baobab
(4,667 posts)"These be the carrots"
That said, I very strongly feel that they may be more on our side than people think.
As evidence of that I want to point out a specific documents use of citations.
This is what appears to be a pro services liberalization essay which quite unusually brings up the core arguments of "our side" by including both sides of the argument and and an even sided mix of citations in it.
http://www.cuts-geneva.org/pacteac/images/Documents/EAC%20Forum/Forum17/EAC%20Geneva%20Forum-%20WTO%20Note%2017.pdf
I have never, ever seen that in the usual pro-globalization literature.
Unfortunately, its an image PDF so you cannot copy-paste from it. That might have been to prevent people from finding it by search. Note that it says do not quote or share the contents. That's typical for work in the trade community discussing this, and its done because its a sensitive subject here in the US, I think.
Sensitive because its invariably going to result in a lot of job loss, and those displaced may never work again at those wages.
Also, many people will never get jobs who otherwise would be able to get entry level jobs and work their ways up. Instead they will be bidded out to low wage high skill international contractors. There is a huge push to do this because the economic conditions as jobs automate are conducive to falling wages and reducing workforces globally.
But that will cause an economic implosion. Its the wrong approach.
Instead we should follow Senator Sanders approach which is raising, now lowering wages elsewhere and here, not lowering wages here so that wages can go up a little bit elsewhere (they wont, because automation)
And the loss of the US middle class will cause a shock to all the other world economies that depended on our buying tons of useless junk from them.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Will have to read the pdfon my computer. Kindle is not so PDF friendly!
MH1
(17,573 posts)Then it REALLY makes absolutely zero sense.
It's insane.
I.e. I agree with you.
But when it comes to government procurement, it is not about "profit", it is about taxes.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)know. Thats a worst case scenario.
The financial incentive is clearly huge to globalize skilled service jobs. I've heard they can literally get four workers for the price of one.
On the other hand, businesses with important in house capabilities will tend to keep things in house and where they have labor intensive needs, over time, i would expect them to automate rather than globalize.
An unforeseen effect of this change to globalized procurement when government money is involved, will likely be a rush to automate to keep that money in the country. US Businesses could win competitive bids in areas like construction by completely automating.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)somebody has been waving around the prospect of lots of jobs in the US as bait to keep the poor countries involved in the sham or scm that the corporate model of globalization is.
Its just crazy.
there is a book that gives a history, by Professor jane kelsey- "Serving Whose Interests?: The political economy of trade in services agreements" Its on the web (use Google scholar to locate its many references also) and its worth reading at least the chapter 'reading the g*** as ideology"
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Honestly I can't even follow the grammar of your post: is that your claim?
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Or maybe not. What I do know, can see, is that preferential pricing and hiring objectives of the global procurement regimes are framing helping less developed countries in the same manner as affirmative action and carve outs for women and minority owned businesses were framed historically.
They are the new beneficiaries of the carve outs. So the preferences may shift to favor corporations onwed by less developed countries and their workers. With the goal of increasing their integration into the global economic sphere before automation makes those kinds of jobs uncommon. (an unknown amount of time but probably not too long- guess, maybe 30 years- ballpark figure. "2046" "By then" robots will do those jobs. (Otherwise, the "its their turn" argument goes, the less developed countries would get shut out the remainder of this time.)
I think the real goal is simply to lower wages, and get the LDCs to continue allowing the wholesale looting of their natural resources at cut rate prices. And to give their corrupt governments a safety valve, send their most ambitious but less well connected talented people overseas to work so they won cause trouble. Then they can blame their economic problems on us.
Its all about preserving corruption, both there and here. (Because Americans likely will have to go far away for jobs - or merely to survive, too.)
Recursion
(56,582 posts)This is all so nebulous I'm not even sure what you're claiming.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)I do know that negotiations over the domestic regulation aspect of services liberalisation have been going on for >15 years and the second track, I think its called, the Doha development agenda, the development goal talks have repeatedly fallen apart, causing a lot of anger and teeth gnashing. The most recent Ministerial was in Nairobi Kenya last December.
Just be aware, lots of jobs are put on the table. Have been on the table for a long time, due to the service rules, people here just didn't know that. All we saw was that 1995 marked an end to the creation of new public anything. Nobody realizes that was because of the FTA.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)When are you saying that's going to change?
Baobab
(4,667 posts)I don't know. To say this stuff is complicated is an understatement.
By the way, FTAS last forever, they cannot be reversed..
So, 21 years in the past doesnt matter. That deal is in some senses not even finished yet- the talks on the details - the negotiations on implementations are not even done yet.. That is why ten years ago- in frustration, the US, wanting a binding agreement on things like health care and state owned enterprises (stopping them) - as the lead member of a group called "Friends of Services" they started a second set of related negotiations, in Geneva for a plurilateral services agreement, which now are almost done. "trade in service Agreement" or TiSA.
Services are 70% of all jobs. "Everything you cannot drop on your foot".
Why don't you Google it? There are a number of presentations out here by experts on it. the WTO GPA web sie has an e-portal for firms involved in tendering bids and countries to meet up.
Yesterday I posted a publication intended for women owned businesses to help them, it definitely also applies for minority owned businesses - it would be worth reading.
the whole area of disciplines on domestic regulation is extremely worth reading to see how they think. Everything changes. I would look at Sanya Reid Smith's videos on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22Sanya+Reid+Smith%22
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Umm... OK? I agree, it "might"?
Baobab
(4,667 posts)might be exempt.
Also, strong unions are known to be preventing it from being so bad in Europe and they likely have gotten carve outs for their specific areas.. carve outs from the most radical liberalisation. Thats why I am surprised to not hear it and carve outs being discussed. I am worrying if perhaps thats the reason the Clinton campaign has been so reluctant to discuss anything which might lead to a discussion of the three pending deals.
Please watch Sanya Reid Smith. She is quite good. Basicallly everything is changing. Europe went through this 20 years ago, now they have a common employment market. Wages fell a lot. Hillary may be agreeing to raise minimum wages laughing inside because she feels that the secret deals will nullify that and teach American workers an important lesson in capitalist economics. supply and demand and nothing else, determines wages. By increasing supply they hope to eventually increase demand, the argument is that high labor costs are holding businesses back - many US businesses could export more if they had access to really cheap labor. Also in health care and education, private education brands, and US health insurance companies could export more insurance and create thousands of jobs by preventing and mandating the elimination of public health care around the world. poor Americans could also gain access to low cost Third World insurance providers and get care in Third World healthcare markets, in many cases good quality care for very little, if their insurers paid for it and had a global connection to the providers. Similarly, prison services could be delivered at a far lower cost overseas in countries that specialize in imprisonment like Nauru.
Also, the argument goes, doctors and nurses from around the world would get valuable experience working here even if the pay was low and the hours long. Unlike Sanders who wants to change our system, Hillary's plan keeps our system the same and merely forces the workers in it to sacrifice their jobs for it. the thinking is that some of them lkely would find other jobs ,maybe helping train their replacements overseas.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)destroy it!!! They ignore that it has actually been expanded, and is massively popular. CCT.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)In terms of our FTA commitments. In 1998 a "standstill" clearly effecting provision of health insurance went into effect.
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/28/us/expanding-children-s-health-care.html?pagewanted=all (this is basically what I remember about SCHIP)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/inaug/issues/kidinsur.htm
These are the relevant segments of the Congressional Record-
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-1997-05-21/pdf/CREC-1997-05-21-pt1-PgS4782.pdf#page=10
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-1997-07-31/pdf/CREC-1997-07-31-pt1-PgS8386-2.pdf#page=9
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between 1995 and 1998 its likely that the language of the GATS could be interpreted as to prohibit SCHIP based on its idea that countries are not supposed to enact any law that contradicted the free trade ideology of GATS which basically frames public healthcare, education, etc, as a theft from the business sector. That ideology is stll there and its being strengthened in three pending deals right now, so if you don't agree with money being put on top of people's lives - forever- because they last forever- they never expire- this is the time to speak up.
Look at what happened to South Africa.
Look at what happened to the Slovak Republic.
Please don't just turn off your mind, this is really important to all of our futures.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)to limit the number of people here under Mode IV.
If WTO finds that the US is denying other countries the full benefits of the 1995 agreement, the situation could radically change.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Because, just bluntly, we actually follow international laws at least in this regard, which is kind of a strange idea to some countries...
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Americans are still living in the pre-globalization world and have only the sketchiest knowledge of FTAS, for example, NAFTA. For some reason Americans know about NAFTA, but nothing about G***.
See what I just did there with the name? Do you know why I do it. I am sure you do.
Although you likely would see my post, it appears others would not.
Look, this really sucks. Its going to blow up in these web sites face. Soon.
I have to go.
Read this
http://iatp.org/blog/201602/obama-undermines-climate-efforts-in-solar-trade-dispute
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)good info to know, thanks for posting.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)the urls in my profile text below my posts.
#3 is a really important, global issue, we need to change that text.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)to do something similar to protect their public services from attacks under the three pending trade deals let me give you links to all this..
This is actually a question that experts should answer- One person who is extremely knowledgeable on these things is Scott Sinclair of the Canada NGO http://PolicyAlternatives.ca Also, their publication Putting Health First talks about carve outs..in its suggestions at the end- they are for Canada but since we are talking about emulating candian single payer those carve outs should be more applicable now- We have to keep our ability to determine our own healthcare system AND PAYMENT open. Assuming we did that then we may still have need for foreign providers. I actually think we could figure out a really great win win situation for all concerned IF the system could be run by doctors and be freed of the free trade ideology baggage. Its all based on competition policy which is all wrong, it gets a lot of things very wrong.
Competition policy is the reason Obamacare is broken. Let me find some quick links on that- not such great links but - You coud probably do as well or better with Google..
http://www.twn.my/title/welf-cn.htm
"Competition Policy" as pushed by WTO, and other so called global governance institutions (and the US) is just corporate welfare for transnational corporations"
Its important to keep in mind that US trade policy is heavily skewed towards creating noew, previously non-existent, unnaturally wrong "property rights" in policy that promotes their interests and their interests only. I really do not sell Hillary changing this- how would she or could she- ? She is just a cog in a much bigger machine-
Sorry this is so disorganized- thank you for asking me this question-
There are a lot of NGOs- some arebetter than others-
If you want to learn a lot, fast watch videos- A person who is really knowledgeable who has done a lot of videos on FTAs especially the ones most crucial in this area is Sanya Reid Smith of the Third World network, in Malaysia, TWN.my
Another good person to ask might be Prof. Jane Kelsey of the University of New Zealand
These three links, a bit below may be helpful- They offer some of an idea of what people in Europe are proposing but our situation here is different, also its important to note that carve outs dont occur in national legislation, they are incorporated into the trade agreements (in their schedules?)- they have to be part of the agreements and they have to go in at the beginning. because the agreements all use similar definitions, for example, the big definition at GATS Article I:3 (b) and (c) is used in all three pending FTAS- what would make the most sense is to create a standard carve out - replacing that definition- basically saying that we reserved the right to exclude foreign firms from the health insurance and reserved the right to make changes of any kind whatsoever in health care and all forms of education.
That businesses could be put on notice that state owned enterprises were as likely as not to be in our immediate future- also that the health of our people and availability of drugs and critical medicines was more important than maximizing the value in the supply chain.
that that applied across all health related service sectors- we should make similar reservations for water and education- and There needs to be a national discussion on where we are now and where we need to go that we have never had- It needs to be honest about whats happening with jobs- they are vanishing to automation- thats the consensus- we're in a new kind of change we've never seen before-
This then raises the question, what about the developing world who was expecting this "opening up", we cannot just leave them with nothing, I think we need a national dialogue which happens from a very different place than the pace we are today. We need to have honesty- why did they hide this all?
I think we should try to figure out a way for people in different countries to trade places - build it into our society, so that people from other pats of the world get some experience here and we get some experience there living their lives and walking a mile in their shoes. This is what we need to survive climate change- when somebody dies in India because their well ran dry because of climate change, we should see that that could be us.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+COMPARL+PE-567.814+01+DOC+PDF+V0//EN
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+AMD+A8-2015-0175+028-042+DOC+PDF+V0//EN
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+AMD+A8-2016-0009+002-008+DOC+PDF+V0//EN
I am not including the ones in my sig because that might result in this post not being visible- I dont know.. Look at the text in URL# 3 of the GATS Article I:3 - the definition of scope. Thats where I would start. ASK EXPERTS- not me-
Number23
(24,544 posts)Oh, the victimhood absolutely BLANKETS this web site these days. I applaud Recursion (as usual) for trying to engage but I stopped reading at that bit.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)because when i name certain trade deals by name, nobody seems to see those posts.
How is that for democracy.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Could somebody reading this please beg Skinner to turn off whatever script makes a third to a half of my posts, the ones with the key information, never get replies.
How can anybody accept that - these are world changing issues that need to be discussed-
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)So called "competition policy" is making compassion by governments FTA-illegal. "Competition policy" explains the 1996 welfare cuts. Competition policy explains why ACA has big holes in it's coverage. The missing pieces are the foreign firms its likely.
Look up the propaganda for "World Competition Day" - Seen in this light, its informative.
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)Our special niche in this new world order.
If nothing tangible - this is how and why - and what the black American community can do to FURTHER insulate itself -
I'm locking it off topic.
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)1. Name three tangible ways this impacts black Americans in 2016. You may not use the drug war. The vast majority of us are not illicit drug users.
2. Of these three things -NOT GIVING us LINKS - What would you suggest black Americans do to protect themselves as a subculture to the dominant culture in America?
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Its already impacted our health care substantially going back to 1994-ish by means of so called chilling effects, (fright to regulate) blocking functioning health care because (as shown by/in Skala- link below) is WTO-illegal. Approximately 1.5 million 'excess deaths' is probably a conservative estimate of the number of people who have died due to not being able to afford health care that they would have gotten in more-civilized countries. Those people are likely to be low and middle income people which means our country's failure to come up with a scheme that adequately delivers modern healthcare to all Americans has disproportionately impacted people of color compared to white Americans (although all of these issues are poverty driven they are also clearly race driven as nonwhite people of equal income - there is still a substantial racial disparity in access to health care which has only been slightly reduced by the ACA- very slightly- inadequately reduced, by any measure, just a few percent)
Its prevented new public housing and created a situation where all new housing has to be public private and people don't realize that.
The proposed energy chapter in the transatlantic deal could result in sudden jumps in the cost of energy which could cause a cascade leading to loss of affordable housing due to challenges to rent stabilization laws, even if that does not happen the rising heating costs could result in a lot of older buildings being deemed blighted and "too expensive to heat" leaving them vulnerable to (see kelo v. City of New London) 'redevelopment' schemes that would push existing residents out of urban neighborhoods - which they would be unable to afford to return to.
Its created a push to privatize education by means of the GATS Article I:3(b)(c) test which basically sets up big chunks of the public sector to be privatized. Once privatized those jobs will eventually be subject to new procurement regs which will likely result either in their going to foriegn firms or US wages walling to 'global norms' which are a fraction of US norms. We would likely have to conform our service sector (70% of all jobs) wage laws or eliminate them or accept no work as the consequence of this, due to never winning bids (another alternative would be automation, but that would also mean no jobs) . In short its a sneaky way to lower wages while pretending to want to raise wages.
They managed to get away with this (just as they managed to deceive the whole country on health insurance) because Americans are math challenged, as a group. All of the country seems to be-
Generally, my biggest worry (and this is what the academic literature says is the result of liberalisation of "movement of natural persons" as part of the "Mode Four" of trade in services agreements is that we will lose the middle of the job curve- the better paying middle class jobs which are framed as artificially high and protected by "professional protectionists" will be lost to low wage foreign subcontracting firms- Those would be the entry and middle level jobs that the younger generation would otherwise had been able to use to enter the middle class. There will be a general falling of wages with minimum wages becoming what is earned by fairly highly trained people and no paid jobs below that, below that would be unpaid volunteer positions where people do unpaid work for several years until they have built up a reputation in a field - this is in addition to having educational accomplishments, maybe an MS or PhD. (The consensus in the computer science and engineering communities is basically that if current trends continue, we're heading into a largely workless future where vast majority of would be workers in the not too distant future will be unemployed or only sporadically employed due to automation. This situation will also result in falling wages due to supply and demand. This is a natural consequence of exponential growth in technology and has nothing to do with politics. )
Also, its likely that existing carve outs for women and minority owned businesses would be lost as they would be framed as an internal US matter between the US government and its people and not something which could effect hiring of firms to subcontract for staffing as that would be a benefit covered by trade rules-
As far as what can be done, we all need to stop the current push to nail down the current inequalities and create new ones in FTAs- and insert broad carve outs into them for all public services and public policy options - especially in essential areas like healthcare and healthcare payment, education at all levels as well as adult education, water, seeds, professional licensing and market access to services- and also we need to figure out a just plan to gradually reduce the worlds wage inequalities in a way that wont leave families high and dry with huge debts or expenses when wages suddenly fall-
We need to either dump the trade deals completely (evidence has been that they do not improve trade!) actually taht is a better approach than carve uts-
carve outs will likely leave key things out- They would need to go it now- before they are finalized. Failure to do that and especially if the US elects the wife of the man who signed the original GATS would be seen as an endorsement of the American people of its global "progressive liberalisation" agenda which would (one way irreversible privatization) and be a huge mistake.
As the new FTAs will worsen the situation greatly. Example with education is shown by the EUA - European University Association's statement of January 2015 on the pending 'pluriliateral' services agreement- (now almost completed in Geneva) which identifies the GATS as a source of many problematic definitions- especially the scope definition at Article I:3(b) and (c) see http://www.ictsd.org/downloads/2008/06/cassim_steuart_part3.pdf , http://www.ciel.org/Publications/PublicServicesScope.pdf and many others.
Carve outs need to broadly establish a right of countries to decide their own policies in these areas in a manner which supports democracy, so that elections could be used to change policies if they are provn to not work, every four years or whatever. In other words, one President and Congress cannot be allowed to irreversibly poison future policy with policy that creates irreversible corporate entitlements to specific sets of policy.
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)We've had numerous discussion about this in this group that if you search you can find simple links to -
A wealthy black woman in America - is more likely to die of breast cancer than a poor white woman.
Racist doctors give the least care to black women - even when it is black medical professionals.
So even WITH a high rate of access - it's not a 'new world order' kind of thing - it's simple white dominant culture in America wreaking havoc on everyone else.
Again - can you give simple answers that are not bordering on Conspiracy Theory?
Its prevented new public housing and created a situation where all new housing has to be public private and people don't realize that.
Buy an older home.
I'm having a really hard time as a group host understanding why this was posted back here and what if anything it has to do specifically with BLACK AMERICANS - living in America today.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)You know why! Another example of what us Black folks should/would be concerned with, if we just only knew.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Most urban residents last I looked, live in multifamily housing. Housing which ill be impacted by a huge sudden jump in natural gas prices. A not unlikely scenario would be it being lost. Sudden increase in cost could lead to the loss of the ability to use the "rent stabilization ordinance" nationally. Millions of people could suddenly, all at the same time be forced to look for market rate housing that did not exist.
Buying an older home is out of the means of a great many people and even if they do thanks to Kelo v. New London there is a significant chance that that value which they subsequently built up in making their neighborhood liveable and pleasant could be "captured" by a well connected real estate developer - Because its typically nice neighborhoods of well maintained older homes that are being targeted by "redevelopment" schemes. Thi has become legal now due to Kelo for the simple purpose of increasing tax revenues.
Free public education has also been targeted. Now that we are ending the era of work intensive manufacturing, the need for education has increased dramatically and the powers that be want to further squeeze society and the money that is collected for tax to fund public education is seen as a potential prize to other forms of rent seeking if public education could simply be eliminated. I have had ths argument with advicates of this several times. One person told me - and this stuck in my mind, that "it only gives" (poor people) "unrealistic expectations" - This is what we are dealing with as jobs go away. You may not see this fact but we all need to join together, not stay apart. If we want our future world to be the exciting, challenging, fulfilling place it will naturally become if we simply do what we should naturally do and lern and live and grow, we will get there. Its basically the advocates for an old, broken set of models that are trying to hold us back. Thats what the FTAs are. They are a war on much needed change and a war on a peaceful, equal future world without huge disparities. They want to lock down the future by preventing democratic change, the main function of democracy is to enable continuous, peaceful change.
In short the trade deals are a war on all of us but especially non white communities.
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)See 1Strongs response to me above.
Number23
(24,544 posts)But at least the OP isn't going out of his/her way to be an obnoxious, rude, pain in the ass the way so many others have been that have "popped in" lately.
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)In several groups. One was the Sanders Group. When I looked earlier today - no responses there.
At least we didn't ignore them.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)If I don't tell people about stuff like this, it bothers me.
I don't enjoy seeing these possible outcomes. Its disturbing.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)families finances.. And now they want to pursue the same mistakes again with TiSA
GATS's Understanding on Commitment in Financial Services was the change which was cited by the Clinton Administration as the reason to repeal Glass-Steagall. (via the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act ) This was shown to have been a huge mistake a few years later - because it created this huge liability for the taxpayers and created an incentive encouraging really bad behavior by banks-
https://www.citizen.org/documents/memo-gats-conflict-with-bank-size-limits-may-10-2011.pdf
http://www.citizenarchive.org/documents/FinanceReregulationFactSheetFINAL.pdf
https://www.citizen.org/documents/Memo%20-%20Unanswered%20questions%20memo%20for%20Geneva.pdf
https://www.citizen.org/documents/FinanceReregulationFactSheetFINAL.pdf
https://www.citizen.org/documents/WTO,GATSandfinancialservicesderegulationFORUPLOAD102108.pdf
http://www.citizenstrade.org/ctc/oregon/orftc-campaigns/trade-pacts-and-financial-deregulation/