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Bye, Willyt. (Original Post) bravenak Mar 2016 OP
It appears gollygee Mar 2016 #1
They must have noticed the first one and I guess this was enough bravenak Mar 2016 #2
Maybe they thought he deserved a chance to clean up his act? iandhr Mar 2016 #49
I think so. It was the right thing to give a chance bravenak Mar 2016 #50
Damn. Getting Tombstoned right after amnesty starts... underpants Mar 2016 #3
+1000! Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #4
For stealing boxes from work.nt bravenak Mar 2016 #6
... Quayblue Mar 2016 #10
+1001! Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #11
lol brer cat Mar 2016 #14
+1, we watched that every day in college uponit7771 Mar 2016 #17
I watched every day in high school bravenak Mar 2016 #19
lol Ebbegirl Mar 2016 #92
We ain't got no milk! nt Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #128
lol!!! Quayblue Mar 2016 #9
It is amnesty for Clinton supporters and open season on Sanders supporters. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #21
More accurately, open season on those holding racist or bigoted sentiments LanternWaste Mar 2016 #28
LOL. Of course you get to point out who you think are racist or supporters of racists or know a rhett o rick Mar 2016 #31
EXACTLY! n/t RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #40
Let me get this straight. You don't think posting Stockholm Syndrome insults towards AAs . . . brush Mar 2016 #45
I think you put your finger on it. Hekate Mar 2016 #47
Apparently a lot of DUers think the insulting Stockholm Syndrome posts were okay. fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #74
I agree. Very good points. yardwork Mar 2016 #134
Beautifully said, Fleur Number23 Mar 2016 #191
Thank you! EffieBlack Mar 2016 #242
This. However the reason that people let that vile nastiness stand is due to synergie Mar 2016 #263
Exactly! treestar Mar 2016 #270
no he didn't heaven05 Mar 2016 #282
You won't get an answer Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #95
Since he hasn't answered, I guess you're right. But IMO no answer is his answer. brush Mar 2016 #100
You won't get an answer... SidDithers Mar 2016 #131
Not coming from me, it was stated as much in his obit. LanternWaste Mar 2016 #61
I'm afraid you are spot on. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #79
As asked of the poster you think is "spot on" (and which he did not answer): SunSeeker Mar 2016 #114
No, it isn't precisely racist. But that doesn't make it right. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #296
No wonder SunSeeker didn't bother responding to this message Number23 Mar 2016 #300
Excellent block! JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #304
Thanks, sugar! Number23 Mar 2016 #311
In total agreement JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #313
Yeah. Unfortunately, you are right as hell about that Number23 Mar 2016 #326
Thank you! Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #322
Nah, racist shit shouldn't be tolerated here. zappaman Mar 2016 #157
And I'm afraid that you are blocked Number23 Mar 2016 #299
As a white guy I probably shouldn't weigh in, but TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #309
Thanks, Tex! Number23 Mar 2016 #312
I'm not afraid to say that he's not "spot on". Cha Mar 2016 #316
Really?! Ostracizing racists is "Right Wing behavior"?! SunSeeker Mar 2016 #116
This is the African American group Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #132
I was just about to block you from this group Number23 Mar 2016 #192
I'm going to get that automatic message cross-stiched into a sampler. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #229
Ha! Number23 Mar 2016 #230
I figure once things cool down, it won't be as crazy? Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #232
Oh Good! I must thank her. Cha Mar 2016 #249
EarlG pointed out quite accurately that WillyT was posting Racist Crap.. and they him a chance Cha Mar 2016 #317
Hey Rick, I'm curious, maybe you can answer this question for me. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #29
"Let's saddle up and find us some racists." Mob mentality. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #32
Didn't answer my question, Rick. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #36
I am not sure why you guys think you can demand that I answer your questions. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #43
Well, you're posting in the African American group NuclearDem Mar 2016 #51
Ignore that one ... he/she is working on his/her Martyrship Merit Badge of his/her own. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #55
Spare us your martyr routine Rick. No one is buying it here. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #57
I came in from the front page.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #70
I think he knew. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #72
I've had to learn to look. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #76
Fair point. I rarely use the front page but he saw who the op was so I am sure he knew. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #80
Because you are seemingly defending racist posts and behavior...I'd like to know where you stand Digital Puppy Mar 2016 #58
Group Host - Received Notification this Member is Now Blocked JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #64
Censorship! zappaman Mar 2016 #158
At the end of the day, you're feeling what it felt like to be silenced. MADem Mar 2016 #284
I never saw you there. bravenak Mar 2016 #38
LOL. Love the subtle reference. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #261
Heh bravenak Mar 2016 #262
Bernie supporter here. I don't get your point about . . . fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #143
+1,000! nt MADem Mar 2016 #285
EarlG is the who Banned WillyT for being racist .. so please don't accuse him of "mob mentality".. Cha Mar 2016 #318
You just don't get it. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #54
we all knew this was coming, I say, good riddence to DU, who wants to listen to HRC people slobber litlbilly Mar 2016 #59
So, only HRC people are against racists and other bigots? obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #106
We don't get mad when Bernie people slobber all over themselves all day book_worm Mar 2016 #117
This person is blocked. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #119
Fair Block - JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #121
Thanks, I'm on a break before I have to go back to work. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #122
On the latest alert we just got JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #125
Can do! Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #127
Thank you. yardwork Mar 2016 #136
Oh, FFS. I wish you brand spanking new DU members would stop telling us over and over again Squinch Mar 2016 #160
I say DU benefitted, having such racist crap not being posted anymore by WillyT, who was given Cha Mar 2016 #319
I just blocked this person. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #62
thank you Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #133
No Rhet O Rick... fun n serious Mar 2016 #66
I hope it's open season on racists and bigots mcar Mar 2016 #67
Borrowing a word from religion"AMEN!" n/t etherealtruth Mar 2016 #234
Yep. Duval Mar 2016 #120
It's only open season on Sanders supporters who are embarassments to DU and themselves Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #129
Thread winner. Actually, you just won DU with this post. Number23 Mar 2016 #301
You obviously didn't read the post that caused EarlG to ban him, did you? George II Mar 2016 #142
Sure Rick. zappaman Mar 2016 #147
Ummm... Sanders supporters should be happy Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #185
Blue Tires, I love your sig line. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #302
??? sheshe2 Mar 2016 #231
The OP is about WillyT getting banned for his racist OP.. after he was given chances to correct Cha Mar 2016 #248
Actually I think you're talking about Hill's supporters.."If you can't debate them alert, lock, hide Cha Mar 2016 #250
Isn't that exactly why so many Clinton supporters were stalked into silence? synergie Mar 2016 #260
Might no longer makes right. How very American, where the rights of minorities are MADem Mar 2016 #283
aw..... George II Mar 2016 #310
so much for no purging :( PatrynXX Mar 2016 #69
Black Democrats are not racist obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #107
I didn't say it and didn't infer it PatrynXX Mar 2016 #294
"Purging"?! are you kidding me?! WillyT had Many Chances to correct his racist behavior.. Cha Mar 2016 #255
Yup agreed, the mods were actually pretty nice I think in giving him a chance to try and grow cstanleytech Mar 2016 #278
I didn't say he didn't deserve it. PatrynXX Mar 2016 #295
You do realize that all those old Southern Dems ("In The Heat of the Night" -- to note your example) MADem Mar 2016 #287
some amnesties are more equal than others MisterP Mar 2016 #109
Thread Winner!! Number23 Mar 2016 #190
LOL Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #286
The first thread was bad enough Gothmog Mar 2016 #5
It was actually worse sasly enough bravenak Mar 2016 #15
Getting giffy with it JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #7
I like it. bravenak Mar 2016 #8
Good riddiance Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #12
I can think of a few bravenak Mar 2016 #20
Bye, Willyt. brer cat Mar 2016 #13
THERE WERE 71 RECS!! This is what folk are talking about, some attitudes on the left are about as... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #16
Yes there were 71 bravenak Mar 2016 #18
That is shameful mcar Mar 2016 #75
The recs are what make it ever so more horrible ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #97
Some of those names broke my heart. Squinch Mar 2016 #162
But ZERO racists in the mushy middle noiretextatique Mar 2016 #276
no, not right... but I don't see the mushy middle such sanctamony as the far left right now, hell... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #277
Of course YOU don't see it...like a fish swimming in water noiretextatique Mar 2016 #280
NO one could be that Sanctimonious. Cha Mar 2016 #315
We allow meta in this group in limited form JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #22
Thank you very much! bravenak Mar 2016 #24
So relieved for all my AA sisters and brothers on DU. The constant barrage of racist Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #23
I was so frustrated bravenak Mar 2016 #25
His presence was so toxic. We can ALL breathe easier! Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #26
Yes we can bravenak Mar 2016 #27
question about the "Stockholm syndrome" nonsense from Counterpunch cloudythescribbler Mar 2016 #41
I agree with most of what you said bravenak Mar 2016 #46
Oh look, I finally found -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #30
I had to keep putting him on ignore too bravenak Mar 2016 #33
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #37
I rarely understand people anymore on du bravenak Mar 2016 #39
It's like when someone replies to an OP wildeyed Mar 2016 #135
This message was self-deleted by its author Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #288
Isn't that special. Cha Mar 2016 #320
But, sadly, his status has changed from celebrity to fallen hero ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #34
Hey bravenak Mar 2016 #35
Yeah shenmue Mar 2016 #44
he was threatening to have my posts hidden. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #42
Really? That is a damn shame bravenak Mar 2016 #48
he didn't like my opinions and suggested that i self-delete MariaThinks Mar 2016 #163
Can't you feel a brand new day? Digital Puppy Mar 2016 #52
Yeah baby!!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #53
That was brutal wildeyed Mar 2016 #148
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #56
Please do not come into this Group and tell any member to Fuck Off. Got it? 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #60
I don't think you know how the ignore function works. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #63
This person is blocked from the group. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #65
And regarding the blocked one's response BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #105
Thanks BumDaRushShow and the alerter. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #118
Juror #5 wants to ban everybody? 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #189
Juror number 5 here. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #210
It's nice to know you have no beefs with people 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #235
Mahalo BRDS! This "BS for Pres2016" only just joined and he already knows she just came Cha Mar 2016 #259
LOL at some of the responses to this thread gollygee Mar 2016 #68
This one, lol bravenak Mar 2016 #71
This forum has a better perspective. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #73
He's the one who banned me from the Sanders group bluestateguy Mar 2016 #77
Ha! bravenak Mar 2016 #78
Kick & very highly recommended! William769 Mar 2016 #81
Hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot!!!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #83
One can only hope. William769 Mar 2016 #84
The latest alert JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #82
Are they as angry at the other ops? bravenak Mar 2016 #85
I'm not protecting anymore alerters by redacting their names JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #90
I need to do more like you bravenak Mar 2016 #98
I've got 22 user names on ignore JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #104
I have a few but I'm adding to it bravenak Mar 2016 #108
Too many cats?!??! THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!! bettyellen Mar 2016 #187
You put one of two breeds I like JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #227
I've had that one ignore wildeyed Mar 2016 #145
I just did what I said I would JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #150
Lol~ sheshe2 Mar 2016 #233
Nevermind Tarc Mar 2016 #86
FYI I rec'd this thread - to the SOP Alerters JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #87
Are you sending these alerts to admin? Quayblue Mar 2016 #123
Just sent the latest one! JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #124
cool 😀 Quayblue Mar 2016 #126
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #88
Heh. bravenak Mar 2016 #89
There are quite a few more who need to be banned before anybody's gonna "chill." Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #91
Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #96
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #110
The inevitable jury results: ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #93
Thank you! bravenak Mar 2016 #94
You're welcome ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #99
Hey!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #102
Hmm. Shoulda been a seven-zip leave, but that said, I have this to say to most of that jury. MADem Mar 2016 #291
"Waaaaah! Where's the fairness?.... Waahaaaaaah!" Cha Mar 2016 #321
This message was self-deleted by its author Politicalboi Mar 2016 #101
Had nothing to do with Hillary bravenak Mar 2016 #103
Did someone just blame JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #111
I tried to post a response before they self deleted .... etherealtruth Mar 2016 #113
if calling DU an arm of the Klan gets you excepted from the rules and rewarded, MisterP Mar 2016 #112
when did she say that? Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #141
Never bravenak Mar 2016 #186
Wow, reading this thread UtahLib Mar 2016 #115
Im glad too bravenak Mar 2016 #224
My thoughts exactly. Iris Mar 2016 #238
Trashing group, OP poster and thread. Bye. Purveyor Mar 2016 #130
I won't miss you Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #139
Don't let it hit you on the way out! wildeyed Mar 2016 #151
Thanks for sharing. kwassa Mar 2016 #156
Say "Hi" to Putin and ask him if he's ever gonna pay me that 20 dollars! zappaman Mar 2016 #159
No. Don't. Stop. Come back. You added so much to it. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #193
!!!! Number23 Mar 2016 #214
Stop. Don't. Come Back. Digital Puppy Mar 2016 #237
Wow.. what a big favor you did everyone here.. Gotta say: "Thank you!" Cha Mar 2016 #314
Wooo hooo! Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #137
DU rec...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #138
The only thing I am worried about though Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #140
I wondered if it was my imagination betsuni Mar 2016 #213
They risk the wrath of the admins if they do that. MADem Mar 2016 #292
Sid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #305
Hehe... SidDithers Mar 2016 #323
He's really lucky he didn't get banned the first time he posted that racist trash steve2470 Mar 2016 #144
Question to all the people doing SOP alerts gollygee Mar 2016 #146
This one - I asked this same question JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #153
I think what is going on gollygee Mar 2016 #172
Smarmie - yes the button works JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #149
I see what you meant bravenak. guillaumeb Mar 2016 #152
That post was insensitive, over-the-top and should have been rightly condemmed LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #154
And there it is..."and not be able to get an answer," Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #166
Okay this is a good example LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #168
Nope, No more explanations. Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #171
Thankyou for engaging LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #175
Well, here's my personal reason, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, "Killer Mike" notwithstanding. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #306
I expect the poster to bypass your answer Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #325
Yeah. That's what I thought too. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #327
You think they are voting against their best interest. They don't. kwassa Mar 2016 #176
Okay I can understand how it may look arrogant. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #194
I found out the etymology of the word crisis Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #205
Okay LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #297
I will also vote for whoever the nominee is. Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #324
Cornel West burned his bridges with the black community BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #211
Girl, this post is so on point I pricked my damn thumb on it! Number23 Mar 2016 #215
And both of them are laughing all the way to the bank BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #220
This is so good... Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #221
^^^ THIS RIGHT HERE ^^^ Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #307
Exactly. Thank you, kwassa! Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #200
And then the jilted lover stalks you ... kwassa Mar 2016 #218
Ha! Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #223
Why do so many Bernie supporters 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #197
Thank you, 72DejaVu! Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #208
Because they are like self referential religious fanatics Haveadream Mar 2016 #239
Been a couple of years since I clicked on one of his "clever" threads anyway. NBachers Mar 2016 #155
So long, WillyT, and your racist posts. kwassa Mar 2016 #161
I think he did it on purpose, myself bravenak Mar 2016 #206
He couldn't help himself. kwassa Mar 2016 #217
Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #222
he was purposely trying to stick it to black posters JI7 Mar 2016 #164
The cheering... bravenak Mar 2016 #207
That's the ultimate shame of it, brave mcar Mar 2016 #240
I have no idea bravenak Mar 2016 #245
I guess like Breaking 2, Stockholm Syndrome 2: Electric Boogaloo was just a step too far... M0rpheus Mar 2016 #165
Yep. blue neen Mar 2016 #170
Excellent observations. Wish you posted here more often. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #174
I post in spurts, when I have something I can contribute. M0rpheus Mar 2016 #198
LOL Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #199
OMFG BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #212
Boy, you are so crazy! NOBODY does "Man, what the FUCK wrong witchoo?" face like Samuel L Jackson Number23 Mar 2016 #219
Deteriorated... Exactly! M0rpheus Mar 2016 #266
This Gifs for you! JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #264
Back at 'cha! M0rpheus Mar 2016 #268
Oh my JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #271
I miss your gifs... SidDithers Mar 2016 #281
I feel almost famous! M0rpheus Mar 2016 #289
Oh my goodness!! bravenak Mar 2016 #178
It's always good to see you, and I'm glad you're back again! M0rpheus Mar 2016 #195
I feel like her!!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #196
I would have gotten a a TON of hides yesterday, had I posted... M0rpheus Mar 2016 #201
Fuck yeah bravenak Mar 2016 #202
Me too. lovemydog Mar 2016 #243
"He EARNED that tombstone, that's all there is to it." And that's the simple fucking truth Number23 Mar 2016 #216
Oh the "wailers"! Oh. My. Gawd. M0rpheus Mar 2016 #267
Yep it's our fault that a grown assed fucking man who's probably twice our ages posted racist stupid Number23 Mar 2016 #298
This message was self-deleted by its author coyote Mar 2016 #167
This is the African American group Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #169
Such good news rbrnmw Mar 2016 #173
Yeah bravenak Mar 2016 #179
I don't understand why anybody would post that garbage rbrnmw Mar 2016 #181
To attack us bravenak Mar 2016 #182
yes and he had 71 cheerleaders rbrnmw Mar 2016 #183
Me too bravenak Mar 2016 #184
I looked at that last hide... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #177
Concur. yowzayowzayowza Mar 2016 #236
Anyone have a link to the offending post?? Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #180
here is link to the best post in that thread, Brother Blue! bettyellen Mar 2016 #188
That is pretty delicious. Kind of Blue Mar 2016 #209
WillyT was practically begging to get banned Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #228
This one? Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #303
Well, at least he has a new story to tell down at the pub. betsuni Mar 2016 #203
Boy, he had him some BURDENS bravenak Mar 2016 #204
Happy to K and R. cwydro Mar 2016 #225
Yes. bravenak Mar 2016 #226
Sweet! EffieBlack Mar 2016 #241
Yay!! bravenak Mar 2016 #244
You must be so proud to silence another person on this board. jillan Mar 2016 #246
Me? I'm nice bravenak Mar 2016 #247
You are to blame because you point out clear and obvious racism. You know the game. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #290
You been warned that this is the AA group Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #269
It's crazy how they just cannot participate here without becoming rude bravenak Mar 2016 #275
ORNERY? For objecting to racist invective? MADem Mar 2016 #293
You must not have one freaking clue why WillyT was Banned by EarlG. Cha Mar 2016 #308
How sad CountAllVotes Mar 2016 #251
We will get it together because we have to bravenak Mar 2016 #252
FanF******Tastic! I've had him on ignore since he called President Obama supporters ugly names Cha Mar 2016 #253
He can boogie!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #254
I wonder what his Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #256
BillyC bravenak Mar 2016 #257
... Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #258
I was remembering the MLK quotes betsuni Mar 2016 #265
Today will be busy bravenak Mar 2016 #273
He was on my ignore list, cleaned up a lot of posts, a warning shot has been fired. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #272
I hope he is happy bravenak Mar 2016 #274
I have a few people like that on my list, usually I keep them on for about a month or two then reset cstanleytech Mar 2016 #279

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
1. It appears
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:16 AM
Mar 2016

Based on this and yesterday's action, that the administration at DU recognizes what's been going on around here.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. It is amnesty for Clinton supporters and open season on Sanders supporters.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

If you can't debate them alert, lock, hide and ban them.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. More accurately, open season on those holding racist or bigoted sentiments
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:33 PM
Mar 2016

" open season on Sanders supporters..."

More accurately, open season on those holding racist or bigoted sentiments (all other rationalizations and post hoc fallacies aside).

And let's hope it continues-- regardless of which candidate a racist or bigoted sentiment may or may nor endorse.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. LOL. Of course you get to point out who you think are racist or supporters of racists or know a
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

racist. Mob mentality. "Let's get together and go find us some "racists"". This is Right Wing behavior. Don't debate, ban.

brush

(53,764 posts)
45. Let me get this straight. You don't think posting Stockholm Syndrome insults towards AAs . . .
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:46 PM
Mar 2016

and doubling down on it just a couple of days ago is racist?

I want to know exactly where you stand.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
74. Apparently a lot of DUers think the insulting Stockholm Syndrome posts were okay.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

It's disgusting.

I don't think this is a 'Hillary supporter' vs 'Bernie supporter' issue. It's about disavowing racist comments on a Democratic message board.

Bernie would not approve of the racist attacks, thinly veiled as freedom of speech, and neither do I.

There is no purge of Bernie supporters going on at DU. Willy deserved the ppr.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
263. This. However the reason that people let that vile nastiness stand is due to
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:28 AM
Mar 2016

the team mentality that the BSers were working with. I think it's particularly brave of you and the rational and sane Bernie Supporters to have taken a stand against such vile statements. I have watched what anyone who spoke out against some of these comments go through when you do.

It was the team sports mentality and the sheer amount of hate that was being whipped up here in what was converted into a Bernie echo chamber where simply cheering on Bernie (ostensibly) gave one immunity and credibility for whatever one wished to say.

A lot of people are apparently upset about not being able to do whatever they wish on this site, with the assurance that they would not be held accountable do to their "side" silencing the opposition.

Thank you for speaking out and maintaining the sanity and rationality that I had once thought was common on the left. We have more in common than not and we're all in this together in November, no matter who wins, let's not forget that when the agitators, both the earnest ones carried away by passion and emotion, as well as the deliberate provocateurs intent on mischief, cause disruption.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
282. no he didn't
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

just proves ONE thing, in my book. The power to tell people how they should think and speak, with enforcement ability, has always resided in the hands of those who feel that they are ENTITLED enough to wield such power. WillyT has been no better or worse in his comments than the multitude of racist, bigoted statements allowed to stand here disguised as 'free speech'. I would use the l-word, but I won't.

addendum: There has been an active, obvious AND ONGOING purge of AA supporters of Sen. Sanders from day one. NO DOUBTS IN MY MIND AND EXPERIENCE HERE.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
95. You won't get an answer
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

I've been trying to get an answer to that question all morning.

Instead, all I get is what you see above.

brush

(53,764 posts)
100. Since he hasn't answered, I guess you're right. But IMO no answer is his answer.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

He's on the WillyT appreciation threads.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
61. Not coming from me, it was stated as much in his obit.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

Not coming from me, it was stated as much in his obit.

" you get to point out who you think..." No more and no less than you getting to point out who you think allegedly gets amnesty and who allegedly gets dog-piled. Regardless, I pointed to obvious racist sentiment rather than racist people. I'm certain you realize the relevant difference even should you feign ignorance.

But please, continue to rationalize the denial of racist sentiments on DU as RW behavior for as long as it suits your bias.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
114. As asked of the poster you think is "spot on" (and which he did not answer):
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016
You don't think posting Stockholm Syndrome insults towards AAs . . .

and doubling down on it just a couple of days ago is racist? 


Where do you stand on that question?

Do you think it is "mob mentality" when Admins ban a poster who insists on posting racist garbage like WillyT did?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
296. No, it isn't precisely racist. But that doesn't make it right.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

I rather feel that such accusations completely miss the point. But failing to understand someone else's motivations is not inherently bigoted (or more specifically racist).

And slinging that accusation of racism around to apply to incomprehension just isn't right.

As for banning a poster for repeated incomprehension being "mob mentality": when nobody bothered to explain their motivations on terms the poster could comprehend, just shouting "if you don't agree with me you are racist" or "if you ascribe the wrong motivations to my preference, you must be a bigot" - come on: how is that stuff going to convince anyone to see things from your point of view? And then banning someone for not being convinced? Doesn't look good.

----

But the admins and the poster aside for a moment, the question of why the incomprehension of PoC preference for Clinton rises to the level of seeming like the result of criminal abuse: that question deserves a better and more thoughtful discussion than accusations of bigotry all over the board. Particularly as I think, respectfully, that enquiring into the incomprehension of posters like Willy T could help to restore some of those bridges that a certain campaign has been all too happy to burn.

So maybe you will permit me to take your question into further consideration, and try to work it into - or refer to it in - an OP which I hope to present very shortly.

Love,
Betty.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
300. No wonder SunSeeker didn't bother responding to this message
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

If you read the banning message from EarlG on WillyT's profile, he could not have made it more clear that WillyT had been REPEATEDLY informed that the stuff he was posting was racist, ignorant and offensive and it had been explained to him a hundred different ways by a thousand different posters.

Perhaps, instead of coming in here and trying to chastise posters who know what's going on, you could take the literally THREE SECONDS to find out what's going on, and you could save yourself and the rest of us some time and trouble.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
311. Thanks, sugar!
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:59 AM
Mar 2016

Starry and I were talking about trying to maybe get the group back to just focusing AA issues instead of so much energy being devoted to these revolting primaries. The more we focus on the primaries, the more these people here will keep targeting this forum.

What do you think?

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
313. In total agreement
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:22 AM
Mar 2016

Key issue though - I could post an OP about the new show - Underground .. . Someone will come in here and tell me how HRC would have been a slave catcher.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
326. Yeah. Unfortunately, you are right as hell about that
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:32 PM
Mar 2016

All the while screaming, of course, that their objections to her are all based on policies and are not on hatred in any way.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
299. And I'm afraid that you are blocked
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

Posters who are hostile to black people and black perspectives are not welcome in this forum.

By rec'ing that OP and ignoring this forum except to come in here and high five someone who is justifying racist content, it's clear that you want to be here as much as we want you to be.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
116. Really?! Ostracizing racists is "Right Wing behavior"?!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:00 PM
Mar 2016

On what planet? The Right Wing on this planet, and in particular this country, loves them some racists. They are their base, ever since Nixon's Southern Strategy.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
132. This is the African American group
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:44 PM
Mar 2016

please don't take this as an opportunity to make swipes at folks here. Go to General Discussion: Primary for that

Number23

(24,544 posts)
192. I was just about to block you from this group
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

But I see that hostest with the mostest Starry Messenger beat me to the punch.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
230. Ha!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016


I see we've had to fully abandon the "warn first, ban later" policy. Given the caliber of the folks that have taken over this web site, I'm cool as hell with that.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
232. I figure once things cool down, it won't be as crazy?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:08 PM
Mar 2016
I only had a couple hours this morning to check in on things, I'm coordinating an education conference (which will finally be done tomorrow, yay!) and didn't want to warn and then have them reply with snark and leave that hanging until now. And some names, when you see them in a thread, you're just like



Cha

(297,136 posts)
317. EarlG pointed out quite accurately that WillyT was posting Racist Crap.. and they him a chance
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:18 AM
Mar 2016

to correct his behavior but he so unwisely chose to triple down instead.

There's no excuse for you defending that.. none whatsoever.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
29. Hey Rick, I'm curious, maybe you can answer this question for me.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

You seem to come right to the "freedom of speech" and "censorship" defense of people who post the most horrid shit about African Americans here, but when AA voices were being run off by having their posts hidden, you were nowhere to be found.

Why is that, exactly?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
36. Didn't answer my question, Rick.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

Why the selective passion for freedom of speech and opposition to censorship?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
43. I am not sure why you guys think you can demand that I answer your questions.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

I will say there is a huge difference in hiding a post and banning someone. I won't be bullied.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
51. Well, you're posting in the African American group
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

When a group's regular posters ask you questions, it's generally common courtesy to not be an abrasive guest and show some good faith.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
57. Spare us your martyr routine Rick. No one is buying it here.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

You came into this safe haven to start in.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
70. I came in from the front page....
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

The photography group lands there at times too based on recs.

I know it's common though to claim someone made a special effort invade a specific group but that often isn't the case.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
80. Fair point. I rarely use the front page but he saw who the op was so I am sure he knew.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

Even if he did not he won't be making that mistake again.

Digital Puppy

(496 posts)
58. Because you are seemingly defending racist posts and behavior...I'd like to know where you stand
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think you speak for all Bernie supporters or DU posters. I would like to know how YOU feel about WillieT's posts and the general responses that the AA and LGBT community had.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
64. Group Host - Received Notification this Member is Now Blocked
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016

Please do not respond to anymore to his posts.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
143. Bernie supporter here. I don't get your point about . . .
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016
"Let's saddle up and find us some racists."

Willy started an OP that the AA community on DU, and many others, found to be insensitive and racist. Your comment makes it sound as if Hillary supporters went out of their way to find some poor schmuck Bernie supporter and unfairly brand him as a racist, with the simple motive of pouncing on him, or as you stated it "mob mentality".

Willy started an in-your-face OP for the world to see, after he posted this same shit quite a while ago and was told by many people how offensive it was. And yet he did it again.

The cloak of victimhood you are wrapping Willy in is completely undeserved. He thumbed his nose at the AA community and the Admins by again posting that Stockholm drivel. He alone is responsible for his actions.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
318. EarlG is the who Banned WillyT for being racist .. so please don't accuse him of "mob mentality"..
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:20 AM
Mar 2016
 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
59. we all knew this was coming, I say, good riddence to DU, who wants to listen to HRC people slobber
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

all over themselves all day long? Not me. The have given the nomination to Hill and they think its over.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
106. So, only HRC people are against racists and other bigots?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

I KNOW that isn't true, I know lots of Bernie people aren't bigots so it's interesting that you, as a Bernie supporter, on;t agree with me.



Also, you are in the AA Group, a safe haven, so behave.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
121. Fair Block -
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

I'm in agreement.

And you are on FIRE!

I couldn't decide if I should give him a warning or not.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
122. Thanks, I'm on a break before I have to go back to work.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

I figured it wasn't going to get any better from there, sooo....!

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
125. On the latest alert we just got
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

Can you hit alert abuse and send it up to Admin too?

I'm thinking we should send them all for the next 24 hours. Also send the one he sent originally.

Squinch

(50,946 posts)
160. Oh, FFS. I wish you brand spanking new DU members would stop telling us over and over again
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:35 PM
Mar 2016

how DU is polluting your perfect minds and so you are leaving. Just go, already.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
319. I say DU benefitted, having such racist crap not being posted anymore by WillyT, who was given
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:42 AM
Mar 2016

chances to correct his behavior, but refused.

The only "slobbering" I see are from those attempting to excuse him.

mcar

(42,300 posts)
67. I hope it's open season on racists and bigots
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

Regardless of who they support. There is no place on a democratic site for that crap.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
129. It's only open season on Sanders supporters who are embarassments to DU and themselves
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:31 PM
Mar 2016

The majority of us have nothing to fear.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
301. Thread winner. Actually, you just won DU with this post.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016
It's only open season on Sanders supporters who are embarassments to DU and themselves

The majority of us have nothing to fear.


Absofreaking lutely.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
185. Ummm... Sanders supporters should be happy
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:00 PM
Mar 2016

to get rid of him, since he was hurting your cause far more than helping...

Cha

(297,136 posts)
248. The OP is about WillyT getting banned for his racist OP.. after he was given chances to correct
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:52 AM
Mar 2016

his racist behavior. I believe he is a BS supporter.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
250. Actually I think you're talking about Hill's supporters.."If you can't debate them alert, lock, hide
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:00 AM
Mar 2016
and ban them."

You damn well know the majority on DU are BS fans. You look awfully disingenuous trying to say otherwise.
 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
260. Isn't that exactly why so many Clinton supporters were stalked into silence?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:41 AM
Mar 2016

BSers could not handle debate, so the alerting, locking, hiding and gloating over how you silenced us and turned the DU into a Bernie Echo chamber full of Democrat bashing and RW smears against Clinton herself from every CON rag around?

Why are you guys so angry and upset that people can answer back and not simply be piled on upon? Can you not defend your positions or handle debate when your opponents can answer?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
283. Might no longer makes right. How very American, where the rights of minorities are
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

enshrined in our Constitution.

It's not "amnesty"--it's de facto reversal of some egregious, "faux" hides based SOLELY on non-support of Bernie Sanders, and it's a warning that more of those "faux" hides will be dealt with severely.

No more bullying and swarming (and the effect is immediately noticeable, I must say)--a good thing, IMO.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
69. so much for no purging :(
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

counter productive you saw one thing then this happens whether I agree with him or not. Many old school Southern Democrats are still racist. Thats how we learned in civics class. Odds are people in the heat of the night were democrats. Just like Abe Lincoln was a liberal Republican. Republicans used to be Liberals. I'd assume the WillyT of 13 yrs ago is not the same WillyT now we all change. Hope I never get that notorious

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
107. Black Democrats are not racist
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

wtf are you even saying?

And, you are in the AA Group. Be respectful.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
294. I didn't say it and didn't infer it
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

get back on topic

I said Southern Democrats generially are. (WHITE!!) face palm

Cha

(297,136 posts)
255. "Purging"?! are you kidding me?! WillyT had Many Chances to correct his racist behavior..
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:10 AM
Mar 2016
"Doubled down on his infamous suggestion that black Democrats have Stockholm Syndrome, by posting an article which included the same suggestion (along with comments calling black Democrats "battered wives&quot . The title of his OP was "Thank God I'm Not The Only One" and he bolded the Stockholm Syndrome comments to make sure everyone knew exactly what he was talking about. The first time he did this it was repeatedly explained to him by many members of this community that his comments were at best highly insensitive and at worst blatantly racist. Rather than learning from that experience he chose to double down."

Spare us your manufactured martyrdom.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
278. Yup agreed, the mods were actually pretty nice I think in giving him a chance to try and grow
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

and in the end it was his own decision not to grow that caused him to get banned.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
287. You do realize that all those old Southern Dems ("In The Heat of the Night" -- to note your example)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

flipped to the GOP when Nixon implemented his southern strategy?

Remember Trent Lott? He was a "college Dem." That didn't last long at all, did it?

LBJ's signing of the Civil Rights Act flipped the script-all those "Dems" went over to the GOP side, and all those historically "Lincoln Republicans" (Emancipation Proclamation, and all) bounced over to the Dem side--saying "Thanks, Lyndon" as they did.

When you make racist statements, you're gonna get the ban hammer. That's the "lesson" of WillyT.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
190. Thread Winner!!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

Craig's dad to Craig in "Friday": Boy, how the hell do you get fired on your day off??!!

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
16. THERE WERE 71 RECS!! This is what folk are talking about, some attitudes on the left are about as...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:46 AM
Mar 2016

... horrible as those on the right

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
97. The recs are what make it ever so more horrible
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

Some small part of me wants to say "unbelievable" but there it is, very, very believable and very, very true.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
276. But ZERO racists in the mushy middle
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:16 AM
Mar 2016

Of centrist pablum. Right? That's the corner folks paint themselves into with fake absolutes, and absurd false equivalents. WillyT should have been banned the first time, and I am a Sanders supporter

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
277. no, not right... but I don't see the mushy middle such sanctamony as the far left right now, hell...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

... the middle is admitting they might be racist and willing to change to a degree.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
22. We allow meta in this group in limited form
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:04 PM
Mar 2016

I'm thinking - leave it - because we need to allow people to blow off steam.

There is no Meta TOS in the Groups. You would have to find an attack on a member or a thread like "Join the Klan" for me to lock it. Since WillyT is no longer a member - there no TOS violation here.


ALERT: Thread may violate Statement of Purpose for group: African American

You have received this Alert message because you are currently a Host of the group: African American.

ALERTED DISCUSSION THREAD

-- Author: bravenak
-- Title: Bye, Willyt.
-- Location: African American
-- Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:15 AM
-- Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/118745760

ALERT INFORMATION

-- Sent by: REMOVED
-- Reason: This discussion thread violates the Statement of Purpose for this forum.
-- Alerter's comments: This is the very definition of Disruptive Meta

STATEMENT OF PURPOSE: African American

Discuss topics and issues which affect the African-American community. DUers from all races are welcome to participate.

ABOUT THIS ALERT

As a forum Host it is your duty to ensure that threads meet the forum's Statement of Purpose. You are empowered to lock threads which you believe do not meet the Statement of Purpose.

You should only review the thread's originating post (otherwise known as the OP). You are not required to review the replies.

If you believe the OP is off-topic for the forum and/or does not meet the forum's Statement of Purpose, you should lock the thread by clicking the "Super powers" link at the bottom left corner of the OP and selecting the option "Lock thread (Reason: Violates this forum's Statement of Purpose)."




ETA - there is a thread in GD about it - for the Group Host SOP Alerter - try there! http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027693888
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. So relieved for all my AA sisters and brothers on DU. The constant barrage of racist
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:07 PM
Mar 2016

garbage from his keyboard must have been SO demoralizing.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
25. I was so frustrated
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016

I was so relieved! I no longer even feel like being mad at him or what he said. Poof! Finally that can stop.

cloudythescribbler

(2,586 posts)
41. question about the "Stockholm syndrome" nonsense from Counterpunch
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

(and Counterpunch publishes a LOT of utter garbage though not everything they put forward is worthless) --

I have heard or seen this meme in a variety of contexts on the web and maybe even TV, but who has been putting forward this meme other than WillieT and Counterpunch. It would make for an interesting article for someone with better research skills than I

my own take on these issues:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280151092#post9

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
46. I agree with most of what you said
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

But I would have to come back after I do some thing around town to have time to fully respond.

Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #37)

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
34. But, sadly, his status has changed from celebrity to fallen hero ...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

among certain DU progressive.

Go figure.

Response to bravenak (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
105. And regarding the blocked one's response
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:03 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

FO Bravenak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=45836

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Came into a protected group and told one of its regular posters to "fuck off."

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:33 PM, and the Jury voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Let's just get all the ugly out in the open and leave it there. I'm weary of how this is going.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This is crap, hide it.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: not OK
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: While I pray for the day ALL of these posters are removed from the site, this is over the top. I miss enforced ignores. While bravenak is good at poking people, responses can't be like this. Please Skinner/EarlG, if you are going to ban WillyT (he earned it), consider banning all involved (they've all earned it). This is making DU suck for the majority of people who don't take it quite so seriously. Thanks.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Sigh.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Glad to see 6-1 but should have been 7-0. I expect the next few days will be a bloodbath of stalking.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
118. Thanks BumDaRushShow and the alerter.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:06 PM
Mar 2016

I was on my phone when I did the block--it's harder to write up a good alert on the little keyboard, so thank you all for hiding that too.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
189. Juror #5 wants to ban everybody?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:16 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe they ought to just start their own message board to talk to themselves.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
210. Juror number 5 here.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

Please don't twist my words. Thank you. (also, as many here on DU know, I don't do arguments. I have no real beefs with anyone)

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
235. It's nice to know you have no beefs with people
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:15 PM
Mar 2016

Makes it seem sort of odd that you want so many people banned, though.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
259. Mahalo BRDS! This "BS for Pres2016" only just joined and he already knows she just came
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:28 AM
Mar 2016

off suspension and this is what she does?!

Ruffles their damn feathers?

Go easy on them brave.. posting willyt's PPR 'cause of his racist OPs are too much for their sensibilities.


Doubled down on his infamous suggestion that black Democrats have Stockholm Syndrome, by posting an article which included the same suggestion (along with comments calling black Democrats "battered wives&quot . The title of his OP was "Thank God I'm Not The Only One" and he bolded the Stockholm Syndrome comments to make sure everyone knew exactly what he was talking about. The first time he did this it was repeatedly explained to him by many members of this community that his comments were at best highly insensitive and at worst blatantly racist. Rather than learning from that experience he chose to double down.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
68. LOL at some of the responses to this thread
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

Wow there's a similar thread in GD or GDP, right? I wonder if people are as upset about that one, or if they're more upset about this thread in this forum.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
77. He's the one who banned me from the Sanders group
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

So it's not my job to charge up the mountain demanding his reinstatement.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
82. The latest alert
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016
Automated Message

ALERT: Thread may violate Statement of Purpose for group: African American

Mail Message



You have received this Alert message because you are currently a Host of the group: African American.

ALERTED DISCUSSION THREAD

-- Author: bravenak
-- Title: Bye, Willyt.
-- Location: African American
-- Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:15 AM
-- Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/118745760

ALERT INFORMATION

-- Sent by: RECENLTY BLOCKED FROM THE GROUP DUER

-- Reason: This discussion thread violates the Statement of Purpose for this forum.
-- Alerter's comments: This post is like a football player standing over another player he has knocked unconscious with a cheap shot and dancing. The person who just came off this post was on timeout and should join WillyT as permanently banned.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
90. I'm not protecting anymore alerters by redacting their names
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

They need to stop.

Go ahead and blow off steam bravenak - it's not hurting anything.

I seriously don't understand why these folks don't put you on ignore? *head scratch*

I've had the person in the OP on block since the first stockholm syndrome thread. I've got someone in GD saying "Well you should have said something to him" blah blah blah "That's the appropriate way" blah blah blah

The hell?

I'm not obligated to anything other than be black and die.

The utter gall that people think I should take my time and give it to someone I had already made the decision was beneath me is just - insane. That's why I'm not broke - I don't waste time on that when I could be making money.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
98. I need to do more like you
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

Now that he's gone I am not even bother by him.
I think people need to stop acting like my personal NSA and do them. Too much attention.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
104. I've got 22 user names on ignore
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

If you post too much c.t., too many cats , or are all around obnoxious (in my opinion that's all relative and personal) I just put user names on ignore.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
187. Too many cats?!??! THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016
?1

<a href="http://imgur.com/J5MTQy7"><img src="" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

<a href="http://imgur.com/79MeEmc"><img src="" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
227. You put one of two breeds I like
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

In pictures! Cheap shot!

ETA - if The Gio wasn't allergic this animal would adopt me as it's human:

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
145. I've had that one ignore
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:03 PM
Mar 2016

since the beginning of primary season. An endless stream of disingenuous BS came out of that keyboard. And I felt like it was mostly just shit-stirring for the attention of the peanut gallery, not even real commitment to the candidate. I don't mind wasting time if the debate is interesting, but it never was with that one.

sheshe2

(83,730 posts)
233. Lol~
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:10 PM
Mar 2016

Every time I get one of those alerts from hosting BOG and HRC. I go kick and rec the thread.



PS...I am so glad I am free again.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
87. FYI I rec'd this thread - to the SOP Alerters
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

Anymore alerts on it - as a warning -

I'm including your names.

There were two alerters who I have brought my respect to by NOT doing that.

But knock it off. I'm not protecting anyone else who is trying to put their boots on the necks of this group and bring us to heel.

It's not happening.

Response to bravenak (Original post)

Response to bravenak (Reply #96)

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
93. The inevitable jury results:
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

On Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:25 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Bye, Willyt.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118745760

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Just for the record, when Bravenak was timed out, my only response was a hand clap emoticon. Never said one word. But Bravenak is openly demeaning a poster with a new post. Where's the fairness?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:32 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Post is inappropriate.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I am not going to vote to hide this, as ugly and hateful this post is. Direct responses would be more appropriate had this been in a place where people could freely reply. I would post a reply to give that person my $.02, but it is in a protected group and I would probably get a hide out of it myself. Shit like this is what is making DU suck these days.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sorry, but "the poster" in question is no longer a member in good standing here, therefore fair game. Besides, I think it's bad form to be scanning the AA group for alertable posts. The banned person was incredibly nasty to this group of DU'ers, they deserve some vindication in my opinion. This is relevant to the community, so I'm giving them some space to express themselves on this issue. The alerted post isn't "demeaning" in the least. Banned trolls have always been fair game here.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: First, Willy is no longer a poster. Second, there is no real commentary here just a link, --not even a "hand clap" so nope. I will vote to leave.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter, fight your own battles -- don't abuse the jury system when your fee fees get hurt.

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
99. You're welcome
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016


You've taken far too much ugly crap just for being a strong steadfast black women who speaks her mind.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
291. Hmm. Shoulda been a seven-zip leave, but that said, I have this to say to most of that jury.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016



There's some deliberate irony up in that emoticon, too!

Cha

(297,136 posts)
321. "Waaaaah! Where's the fairness?.... Waahaaaaaah!"
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:55 AM
Mar 2016

Some good responses from the jurors.. Mahalo ism~ That alerter should be alerted on. Can't believe the willyt apologists.

#4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sorry, but "the poster" in question is no longer a member in good standing here, therefore fair game. Besides, I think it's bad form to be scanning the AA group for alertable posts. The banned person was incredibly nasty to this group of DU'ers, they deserve some vindication in my opinion. This is relevant to the community, so I'm giving them some space to express themselves on this issue. The alerted post isn't "demeaning" in the least. Banned trolls have always been fair game here.

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: First, Willy is no longer a poster. Second, there is no real commentary here just a link, --not even a "hand clap" so nope. I will vote to leave.

Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter, fight your own battles -- don't abuse the jury system when your fee fees get hurt.

Response to bravenak (Original post)

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
113. I tried to post a response before they self deleted ....
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

I kinda think posting racist (or homophobic, sexist/misogynistic, xenophobic ... or any other ignorant bigoted) posts will eventually get you banned. Candidate support has nothing to do with it. A definite to DU and its admins

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
112. if calling DU an arm of the Klan gets you excepted from the rules and rewarded,
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

then surviving a jury means you must be banned!

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
115. Wow, reading this thread
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

and seeing how many are so desperately trying to shut you up is more than illuminating. Looks like DU is still under construction and it will be a long and painful process but very much needed.

Bravenak, I'm delighted to see that they will no longer be allowed to silence you or anyone else in this group!

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
159. Say "Hi" to Putin and ask him if he's ever gonna pay me that 20 dollars!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:27 PM
Mar 2016

He really thought Carolina was gonna win!!!

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
140. The only thing I am worried about though
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:54 PM
Mar 2016

what happens during the night time hours when the Bernie supporters come out in full force. They will alert the heck out of this thread because the jury seems to favor them at night. Does the MIRT team know about the alert stalking here?

betsuni

(25,457 posts)
213. I wondered if it was my imagination
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:51 PM
Mar 2016

that there's a lot of alerting at night and juries likely to approve hiding posts for personal reasons.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
292. They risk the wrath of the admins if they do that.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

The admins will take away their jury and alerting privileges if they start in with that kind of stuff.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
144. He's really lucky he didn't get banned the first time he posted that racist trash
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

A second time ? The admins truly bend over backwards not to ban people. I applaud the ban.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
146. Question to all the people doing SOP alerts
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:03 PM
Mar 2016

Are you just alerting here over and over again, or are you also alerting the similar thread in GD?

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
153. This one - I asked this same question
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:12 PM
Mar 2016

Linked to the one in GD too! GD has hosts - they could lock it if they want to.

I'm choosing not to lock this op.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
172. I think what is going on
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:12 PM
Mar 2016

Is that they're trying to protest the recent admin actions by doing a lot of alerts, and then attempting to use the number of times this group is alerted on as some kind of evidence of problems within this group.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
149. Smarmie - yes the button works
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:05 PM
Mar 2016

However I think you meant to send your alert to a jury - correct? You sent your alert to the Group Hosts - not to a jury.

ALERT: Thread may violate Statement of Purpose for group: African American

Mail Message



You have received this Alert message because you are currently a Host of the group: African American.

ALERTED DISCUSSION THREAD

-- Author: bravenak
-- Title: Bye, Willyt.
-- Location: African American
-- Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:15 AM
-- Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/118745760

ALERT INFORMATION

-- Sent by: Smarmie Doofus
-- Reason: This discussion thread violates the Statement of Purpose for this forum.
-- Alerter's comments: Just testing to see if the "Alert" function has any validity whatosever anymore.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
154. That post was insensitive, over-the-top and should have been rightly condemmed
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

But I think it's frustrating for a lot of Bernie supporters, of all races and sexes to watch people voting against their best interests, and in doing so, help push the candidate that will help all of us fighting for a more inclusive society, out the door. Why is this happening?

Its not just me saying that, an interview with Killer Mike and Bernie Sanders:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-killer-mike_us_56704393e4b0fccee16ff248

"Mike and Sanders discussed a variety of subjects, such as: what socialism means to the black community (Bernie: "To be truly free, you need economic rights&quot , the meaning of social justice, why Sanders got into politics, why people vote against their best interests"


And from his twitter account:

https://twitter.com/killermike/status/673404138131202048

"So sad RT @NailzConnelly: @KillerMike isn't it sad how frequently people are voting against their own best interests?"


I know KM is not all AA, I am just using his observations to make the point. So its frustrating not having this addressed. I think Willyt blew a fuse. It was not the correct way to approach this, but I can still be empathetic about his frustration because there is no easy way to express this without it being taken the wrong way.

I also think one could say something similar about Union leadership endorsing Clinton. Willyt is not a racist. He was expressing the frustration towards voters of an identifiable community backing the candidate whose husband initiated among other things, the three strikes law, and welfare reform which hit the minority, and poorer communities hard, ...and even now is the second best candidate in regards to more radical social justice reform, and economic reforms that would actually help lift the disadvantaged, the poor, along with much of the AA community up the most. Someone who has marched for civil rights back in the 60's and has never wavered. And it is so frustrating to see this happen.....and not be able to get an answer.

IMO though its not anything particular to what race you are at all. It is a predictable combination of name recognition, MSM coverage, and being less informed. It is just that the AA community's in-general rejection of the candidate that would help them the most is very notable and puzzling. And it is not particular to one community. Why do poor white folks vote Republican? It is more sad than anything. This is/was a maybe once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to really turn the tables on the status quo, and to see so many, of every race and sex, vote instead for the Third Way establishment candidate is disappointing.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
166. And there it is..."and not be able to get an answer,"
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:10 PM
Mar 2016

after a year's worth of explanations. But I'm glad it's notable because maybe you'll go back and take some notes instead of in one ear and out the other due to overwelming frustration caused by your utmost concern for us. Thanks mom or dad for loving us so much, I know how frustrating true altruism in parenting can be. What's the matter with kids today?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
168. Okay this is a good example
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:41 PM
Mar 2016

of why it so difficult to even talk about it. If we express our confusion in why, as Killer Mike pointed out, so many vote against their best interests, we don't get "a year's worth of explanations". We get snark. Its difficult to get even one good explanation.

And I understand that the black community, like the union community, or the women's rights advocates do not consciously vote in one block. But it seems the majority in the AA community are voting one way, so that is a phenomenon. And it would be nice to be able to discuss it. But you replied the post, thankyou, so on an individual level then...if I am to presume you are a Hillary supporter....why is she the best choice moving forward for you, your family and friends, community and country as opposed to what Sanders has proposed?

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
171. Nope, No more explanations.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

You must now do your own research or just take Killer Mike's word for it. I absolutely cannot believe you've gotten nothing but snark because snark is a result of our frustration trying again and again to explain, even giving advice as to what Sanders was/is doing wrong but you simply don't hear it. I'm constantly trying to understand this dystopian world I exist and it's come through hard and steady study of you and me, pursuing answers for my own questions by listening to others. And when answers aren't satisfying, I dig deeper by more reading and more lectures.

This is an idea, not intended as snark, perhaps the answers would be easier to absorb from a white person who is a Bernie supporter but understands where we're coming from. There are lots of them.

Any takers?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
175. Thankyou for engaging
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016

I hear what you say. Maybe you've already tried to explain, as an AA, again and again, why you prefer Hillary's positions over Bernie's. Its just that I was only requesting one simple reason. One line in a nutshell. That's all. I've never really heard it. I wish you would just say it one more time for a somewhat oblivious white Bernie supporter. I wanted to hear from someone in this group rather than a fellow caucasian Bernie supporter to explain it to me as you seem to suggest. I am only doing as you say you do, "pursuing answers for my own questions by listening to others". I am "digging deeper", even if it is not PC to do so.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
306. Well, here's my personal reason, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, "Killer Mike" notwithstanding.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:55 PM
Mar 2016
Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama
by Zaid Jilani Jul 22, 2011 5:50pm

SANDERS: Brian, believe me, I wish I had the answer to your question. Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues, he said one thing as a candidate and is doing something very much else as a president; who cannot believe how weak he has been, for whatever reason, in negotiating with Republicans and there’s deep disappointment. So my suggestion is, I think one of the reasons the president has been able to move so far to the right is that there is no primary opposition to him and I think it would do this country a good deal of service if people started thinking about candidates out there to begin contrasting what is a progressive agenda as opposed to what Obama is doing. So I would say to Ryan discouragement is not an option. I think it would be a good idea if President Obama faced some primary opposition.


http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
176. You think they are voting against their best interest. They don't.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:38 PM
Mar 2016

This assumption that you know better than they what is best for them can politely called arrogant. That is the nicest spin I can put on it.

Clinton has a decades long relationship with the black community, and Bernie did something 50 years ago. He doesn't have a personal relationship with the black community, and they don't evaluate Clinton the way you do. Accept it, and don't denigrate their decision, they are capable of deciding what is best for them.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
194. Okay I can understand how it may look arrogant.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

I apologize. It is IMO only, from my own research, that I come to the conclusions about the more obvious choice based on actual policies today. I find it hard to fathom that someone would vote on who schmoozes the best with what is a big Democratic voting block in the last decade, and who actually has been proposing social justice reforms that would benefit that community for multiple decades. The marches and arrest he did 50 years ago was not the be all and end all of his work in this area despite the propaganda otherwise. Meanwhile Hillary has taken millions from the private prison system. Her husband really helped them out a lot.

I read someone like Cornel West and am inspired that all of us, no matter what color, can join in the revolution to create better lives for everyone, and create more fairness in the system overall. IMO it is pandering to pretend that we can have real change for the concerns that BLM has raised, by only tackling the symptoms and not the underlying disease.

Why Brother Bernie Is Better for Black People Than Sister Hillary

"...when it comes to advancing Dr. King’s legacy, a vote for Clinton not only falls far short of the mark; it prevents us from giving new life to King’s legacy. Instead, it is Sanders who has championed that legacy in word and in deed for 50 years. This election is not a mere campaign; it is a crusade to resurrect democracy—King-style—in our time. In 2016, Sanders is the one leading that crusade."


Like I said, IMO, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. I just hope it is not missed.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
205. I found out the etymology of the word crisis
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

the other day. You may know it. I didn't. From Greek krisis, decision from krinein decide. We've been in so many once-in-a-lifetime opportunities to make decisions; in a freakin' crisis - for 400 years where it concerns us. So your fear of missing out on something wonderful this time around is no longer an electrifying reason to accept Sanders as a savior.

We have a pretty good presidential voting record since given permission to vote that's ALWAYS been strategic, based on our interest. Trust that and if you can't you simply can't and I accept it, like we've had to accept and deal with atrocities far worse than this. So please stop electioneering. As a supporter of Clinton, I really, really, really, truly, for sure, beyond a shadow of a doubt know that you don't like her AND why. I don't want to change your mind because I know you're voting for what's best for you, without putting you thru the 3rd degree

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
297. Okay
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:58 PM
Mar 2016

I won't pursue this anymore.

I am truly just curious, and baffled. I've never heard an actual reason for the Clinton support vs. Sanders from someone from this community. And I understand that everyone makes their own choices for their own reasons, but I find it a little over-the-top to also assume that I, or anyone, can't look down the list of policies they are both proposing, (or not proposing) and discern how it would affect different segments of society other than my own. Yes its through my own filter, that is why I am open to the fact that I must be missing something because of that filter, and I am curious as to what that is. And so I thought I would ask.

My intent is not to attempt to make others "obey and heel" as someone else has accused me of. Why such defensiveness? Why the assumption that I am scolding? I merely asked for some clarification. Is it because Hillary and Bill have gone out of their way to establish more connections with the AA community? Is it because Bernie has been too critical of the first AA President? It it that she's at least not another old white man, and would have another perspective? Is it because the Clintons harken from the South? She has a great smile? I must only guess at the reasons. And all those reasons may be valid, but if I look at the actual policy proposals, and which one, going forward, can help all of us create a fairer, more egalitarian community, its Bernie. That is IMO.

Good luck. Whether Hillary or Bernie, I and I'm sure those in here and all of DU, are optimistic of a Democratic President. I will support whomever is the nominee. Nice talking to you.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
324. I will also vote for whoever the nominee is.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

At best, I think that you're not being sincere and want to argue because it's beyond belief that you've never gotten answers to questions that have been answered day in and day out for almost a year. At worst, I think this discussion is laziness disguised as an attempt to understand when all the tools are there for investigation. What baffles me is that you don't use them if you are being sincere.

I'm not curious why you support Sanders because I think my filter is not as thick as yours. And that is not meant as a snark because I'm thinking of filter paper used in labs. I know why after reading as much as I can, the debates, other info out there, as well as many one-on-one interviews of the Sanders.

I have no doubt that our next president will be a Democrat.

Nice talking to you, too!

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
211. Cornel West burned his bridges with the black community
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:37 PM
Mar 2016

So to keep name-dropping him as if expecting some Pavlovian response from many of us to obey and "heel" when the name is invoked, only wastes the electrons being produced on the page.

He has become a caricature of himself. He and Tavis and their childish grudge for not being personally invited to an inaugural and other perceived "slights", sent them off on a quest to "get even" by fooling the Firedog Lake crowd with their "lefist" rhetoric, culminating in a so-called "Poverty Tour", which in reality was nothing more than a capitalistic book-selling junket. A whole bunch of people have been suckered by them including many on DU. I also know many on DU have hurled MHP under the atomic bus but she was on point about both of those men.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
215. Girl, this post is so on point I pricked my damn thumb on it!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:56 PM
Mar 2016
He and Tavis and their childish grudge for not being personally invited to an inaugural and other perceived "slights", sent them off on a quest to "get even" by fooling the Firedog Lake crowd with their "lefist" rhetoric, culminating in a so-called "Poverty Tour", which in reality was nothing more than a capitalistic book-selling junket.

Nailed it. And the same folks who fell for that crap are the FIRST ones always hollering how WE'RE the ones being fooled and/or voting against our best interests.

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
220. And both of them are laughing all the way to the bank
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:10 PM
Mar 2016

after convincing their white supporters to appoint them harbingers of what they fantasize is going on in the black community.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
221. This is so good...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016
So to keep name-dropping him as if expecting some Pavlovian response from many of us to obey and "heel" when the name is invoked, only wastes the electrons being produced on the page."

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
200. Exactly. Thank you, kwassa!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:53 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:47 PM - Edit history (1)

I was just about to write would it be easier to accept my choice, and move on, if I told the poster that I've been involved in the political process for at least 30 years, I'm college educated - science/art majors - and not a low info voter, I've had a computer - thanks to my brother, a computer guy - since the mid to late '90s, and seen a bit of the world spending a good deal of time in other countries. Shoot! I even lived in D.C. where I couldn't get away from politics even if I tried and well aware of Sanders from just about Day 1 in Congress.

Do all of us have to prove our mental state, besides a plethora of explanations pouring out since BLM's confrontation with Bernie last year? Seriously, I read about Bernie's deficiency with the AA community in Jan. 2015 before BLM. And was like, no problem, because I was happy for another voice in the race.

DU and around the web feels like being with jilted lovers who just can't take no, thank you for an answer

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
197. Why do so many Bernie supporters
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

presume that they know what is in the best interest of people than those people do themselves?

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
239. Because they are like self referential religious fanatics
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

And thus, they are all knowing and all seeing.

They are entitlement on steroids.



 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
222. Yep
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:13 PM
Mar 2016

He got a hide on my thread yesterday and RACED TO REPOST THAT IMMEDIATELY. Yeah. Then called me crazy. Just set trippin.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
164. he was purposely trying to stick it to black posters
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mar 2016

And cheered on for it by too many.

Some white people feel the need to control others .

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
207. The cheering...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

Why? I cannot believe it had one rec. If they had stopped reccing him he would have stopped posting it. If the jury had hid it, he'd still be posting away. The jurors who tried to protect him are why he got banned.

mcar

(42,300 posts)
240. That's the ultimate shame of it, brave
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:10 PM
Mar 2016

People can post what they want here freely but we are all supposed to be subject to community standards. For us as a community to have continuously failed to hold to those simple standards of decency is what has me so saddened by all of this.

It makes no sense to me. It's not that hard. I will never really understand why we can't treat each other with basic respect.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
245. I have no idea
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:38 AM
Mar 2016

It is like there is something making folks act up. It has not been this bad until summer. I hope this ends it. Giving folks too much power with the jury system left it open to tampering. I hope we do better.

M0rpheus

(885 posts)
165. I guess like Breaking 2, Stockholm Syndrome 2: Electric Boogaloo was just a step too far...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

Whenever I get too busy for DU and I consider coming back, I seriously think "Do I really want to know what's going on there?".
I'm still hitting the bookmark, but my finger hovers a little longer every time.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118744008#post36


It took me all of yesterday to catch up on the latest drama, and then all of this morning reading the WillyT threads.
I'm sitting here with my mouth wide open reading these posts about the beginning of the purge, and wondering what site were these people reading?

I'm not one for grave dancing but, I have to say:
He EARNED that tombstone, that's all there is to it.



M0rpheus

(885 posts)
198. I post in spurts, when I have something I can contribute.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

The heavy lifting is done by 1SBM, #23, JAG, DSB, LS71, KEV(from my hometown) and the other regular posters in here. I've always got they're backs, not that they need my help, unless there are GIFs involved.

I try to keep my head in here but, DU as a whole makes me tired... Minus the few islands of relative sanity.

Most of the time though, I'm staring at DU like this.

Too stunned to post...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
219. Boy, you are so crazy! NOBODY does "Man, what the FUCK wrong witchoo?" face like Samuel L Jackson
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:06 PM
Mar 2016

This is my face lately when I read DU outside of this forum:



Between your face and mine, I think we've summed up how much this place has deteriorated.

M0rpheus

(885 posts)
195. It's always good to see you, and I'm glad you're back again!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:24 PM
Mar 2016

Stay Strong, sistah!
Cause you are killing it, since your return!

M0rpheus

(885 posts)
201. I would have gotten a a TON of hides yesterday, had I posted...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:11 PM
Mar 2016

You remember that "Irredeemable" GIF I gave you a while back?
It would have been all over this place...

Today, though...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
216. "He EARNED that tombstone, that's all there is to it." And that's the simple fucking truth
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:59 PM
Mar 2016

I honestly believe he actually broke into sweats making good and god damned sure he got that tombstone. I never seen anybody work so fucking hard to get their ass tossed out.

And the wailers (and there really aren't that many of them) are doing nothing but exposing themselves as enablers.

M0rpheus

(885 posts)
267. Oh the "wailers"! Oh. My. Gawd.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:46 AM
Mar 2016

The Purge is coming! The Purge is coming!

I just...

It's OUR fault that he posted that BS. And it's OUR fault that the ADMINS decided that enough was enough and sent him packing.
Ever since Manny got himself the boot they knew WillyT was next because we have soooo much pull on this site.

They are fairly few and, really loud but they can miss me with all that.




Number23

(24,544 posts)
298. Yep it's our fault that a grown assed fucking man who's probably twice our ages posted racist stupid
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:14 PM
Mar 2016

shit on a regular basis.

Oh. who I am kidding, any and all problems on this web site all go back to bravenak. We know that's who all these mouth breathers really hate. DU was just a panacea of racial harmony, we all sat around singing Kumbaya m'lord until that one showed up. It's alllll her fault!!11one

Response to bravenak (Original post)

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
169. This is the African American group
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:42 PM
Mar 2016

if you can't say anything kind about it or its members don't respond please

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
177. I looked at that last hide...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:45 PM
Mar 2016

I was a moderator during 08, and didn't see as much of this crap as I do now (at least until I hid GD Primary, the Hillary and Bernie groups). This primary season has made me lose a little respect for some of the people who have been around for a long time. It is very disappointing.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
180. Anyone have a link to the offending post??
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016

I also see we have a lot of first time visitors in this thread... Welcome!!

I realize this topic is touchy for some folks, but let me implore you to be on your best behavior... This is your only warning...

betsuni

(25,457 posts)
203. Well, at least he has a new story to tell down at the pub.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:14 PM
Mar 2016

Dragging that cross around makes a person thirsty.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
204. Boy, he had him some BURDENS
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

I hope he has a good time in a place, where everybody knows his name, and they are always glad he came!!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
226. Yes.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

I wish he had simply reflected and stopped. I certainly would have let it go immediately if not for the double and triple downs. I did ask him to please stop many times, so I cannot say he was not told. Even so, I'm not exactly jumping for joy. Sad to see this. He was here for a long time.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
246. You must be so proud to silence another person on this board.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:49 AM
Mar 2016

I have been on & off DU since 2004 and you are one of the most ornery posters I have come across.

But hey congratulations for silencing another liberal's voice on this site.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
247. Me? I'm nice
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:53 AM
Mar 2016

Besides... I did not get him BANNED! I am not even one of his alerters. Earlg banned him. Had folks decided to hide instead of protecting him, he would still be here. I blame the jury for protecting him. Now, please do not do this here in the AA group.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
269. You been warned that this is the AA group
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:58 AM
Mar 2016

Either delete what you posted or leave and don't come back because we are tired of being stalked

MADem

(135,425 posts)
293. ORNERY? For objecting to racist invective?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

I think you might have been looking for another word, equally inappropriate to the occasion.

Pro Tip: Racists, by definition, are not liberals. Why don't you mosey on over to your Sad Victim's transparency page and read what his ban hammer notice has to say...

unbelievable.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
308. You must not have one freaking clue why WillyT was Banned by EarlG.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016
Doubled down on his infamous suggestion that black Democrats have Stockholm Syndrome, by posting an article which included the same suggestion (along with comments calling black Democrats "battered wives&quot . The title of his OP was "Thank God I'm Not The Only One" and he bolded the Stockholm Syndrome comments to make sure everyone knew exactly what he was talking about. The first time he did this it was repeatedly explained to him by many members of this community that his comments were at best highly insensitive and at worst blatantly racist. Rather than learning from that experience he chose to double down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=109627&sub=trans

But don't let that stop you from jumping in and accusing the wrong person of doing the wrong thing.

knee jerk much.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
251. How sad
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:17 AM
Mar 2016

If we cannot even keep it together on a message board, how the hell is it all going to work out when there is a new POTUS in January exactly.

How?

Cha

(297,136 posts)
253. FanF******Tastic! I've had him on ignore since he called President Obama supporters ugly names
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:00 AM
Mar 2016

back in whatever year & it was allowed to stand.. and now finally he is Hoisted on his own Insulting PETARD.



Want to know how Happy I am?..



Mahalo for your, OP, Brave!

betsuni

(25,457 posts)
265. I was remembering the MLK quotes
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:06 AM
Mar 2016

posted so often by our buddy Willy, thought maybe we would get a break. Who am I kidding. Of course not.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
274. I hope he is happy
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:25 AM
Mar 2016

He had many chances to stop it. Nobody would hve even said anything else had he just stopped.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
279. I have a few people like that on my list, usually I keep them on for about a month or two then reset
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:22 AM
Mar 2016

the list to give them a 2nd chance and most pass manage to pass it but a handful havent and now are on perma ignore for going out of their way to be as offensive as possible on purpose.

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