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Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:25 PM

Please Read Prior To Posting - Notification From Group Hosts - Approach To Blocking Members

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Due to the recent influx of new posters in the African American Group we've come to the decision that we must depart from our patient approach of asking disruptive posters to remove themselves. Unfortunately one of these requests (a second request) by a group host (Number23) was hidden by a DU Jury on Saturday August 9th.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118720489#post99

At this time - we had perhaps five members on our Blocked Member list. At time of this notification, we now have 31 members on our Blocked Member List. The heavy handed approach has been to protect regular subscribers to the group, as well as to make the group 'friendlier' to those newbies to the group who post here with Positive Intent.

Going forward, we will give a first and last warning to the DU Member who is creating the disruption. This is being done in order to tamper down posts in other boards indicating that the blocked member did nothing wrong.

We will copy and paste the offensive/disruptive post into the body of that first/last warning post. This is being done due to posters being blocked, then deleting the offensive post.

Please Note Our Statement of Purpose:
Discuss topics and issues which affect the African-American community. DUers from all races are welcome to participate.



All are welcome as long as they bring empathy and positive intent to the group. We experience America differently back here. Our regular subscribers are people who care and who are respectful of our experiences. They deserve a safe place to discuss issues outside of the election process. For our newbies with Positive Intent - welcome.

For those who come to agitate - please note . . . we see you ignore us when the issue does not impact your daily life or belief in candidates/politicians/leaders.

This post was made in agreement with the main hosts and other hosts. The reason why I elected to post it is because my transparency page is blank. I will be able to withstand a spiteful alert and possible hide from a DU Jury.

Thanks in advance,
JustAnotherGen

Number23
onpatrol98
JustAnotherGen
Starry Messenger
kwassa
gollygee


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Reply Please Read Prior To Posting - Notification From Group Hosts - Approach To Blocking Members (Original post)
JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 OP
PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #1
giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #2
Number23 Aug 2015 #3
JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #4
RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #5
tishaLA Aug 2015 #6
Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #7
Number23 Aug 2015 #15
Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #23
greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #8
gordianot Aug 2015 #9
blackspade Aug 2015 #11
gordianot Aug 2015 #19
blackspade Aug 2015 #21
JackInGreen Aug 2015 #20
blackspade Aug 2015 #10
JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #14
heaven05 Aug 2015 #12
JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #13
heaven05 Aug 2015 #17
Number23 Aug 2015 #16
heaven05 Aug 2015 #18
blackspade Aug 2015 #22
Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #24
sheshe2 Aug 2015 #31
Post removed Aug 2015 #25
Liberal Jesus Freak Aug 2015 #26
SheilaT Aug 2015 #27
Cha Aug 2015 #35
MichMan Jul 2019 #52
mountain grammy Aug 2015 #28
captainarizona Aug 2015 #29
JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #30
sheshe2 Aug 2015 #32
freshwest Aug 2015 #33
Cha Aug 2015 #34
Cha Aug 2015 #36
awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #37
MADem Aug 2015 #38
awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #39
MrScorpio Aug 2015 #40
Number23 Aug 2015 #41
JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #42
Number23 Aug 2015 #43
JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #44
Number23 Jul 2017 #45
JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #46
JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #47
gollygee May 2018 #48
hlthe2b Sep 2018 #49
NatBurner Jul 2019 #50
still_one Jul 2019 #51
NBachers Jul 2019 #53
GitRDun Jul 2019 #54

Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:45 PM

1. I'm sorry you have to deal with that shit.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:47 PM

2. Wow, if you want to talk about alert swarming just

 

look at that thread & in a protected group no less.

Nope, nobody around here is trying to shut down the black voice at all.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:49 PM

3. You

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Response to Number23 (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:53 PM

4. You can't repeat the past

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:04 PM

5. Some of that is just plain awful

 

I don't blame you for being heavy handed.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:08 PM

6. thank you, hosts

This is the only real oasis for me on this site recently. I'm happy you'rek keeping it that way.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:12 PM

7. And remember folks--bragging to your buds that you got blocked from the AA forum?

Does not make you look cool.



Don't be that guy/gal.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:16 PM

15. Depends on exactly who the buds are, Starry.

You know that as well as I do.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:44 PM

23. I know--I was just trying for positive reinforcement.

I'm back teaching school, we aren't allowed to tell them what we're really thinking there either.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:12 PM

8. Well said, JAG.

I'm sorry that it's necessary.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:50 PM

9. I just got questioned why I posted why I posted on Benie Sanders group.

I am a Sanders supporter. So I take it DU has come to this a new low. I intend to stay away from all groups!

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Response to gordianot (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:06 PM

11. You have to be kidding...

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Response to blackspade (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:20 PM

19. No kidding very serious.

Although an old white man I post on African American group. I like Sanders and support the concept of BLM. The person who asked why I posted is not doing the cause of Sanders any favors.

I am not a racist and with my Klan run in not a White Supremist.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:38 PM

21. Sorry, I was being facetious

I believed you.
I was criticized for correcting a poster who called the BLM ladies mouthy.
Unfortunately the thread was locked before I could respond.
Apparently, I was 'pretending to be Black' so my opinion of his shitty wording was dismissed.

I've been largely staying out of the primary groups for now.
Hopefully some folks will calm the fuck down.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:22 PM

20. I saw that

and it confused the hell out of me.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:04 PM

10. It's sad that it has gotten to this point.

But I think it's great that you all are being up front about your monitoring of this group.
I have really learned a lot in this group.
I think a fresh perspective is always a good thing for people with the interest in equality and justice.

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Response to blackspade (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:14 PM

14. Thanks - we appreciate it!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:06 PM

12. just perusing and ran across this

 

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excellent, I must say. Put a couple of others in their place. I am outta here, just lurking and see ya!!! Love ya......

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:14 PM

13. In other words -

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:18 PM

17. YES!

 

exactly....through playing these clowns game. Just like the Black Panthers, there's a new day coming and I won't depend on anyone but myself and my true allies to make sure I see that day...

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:17 PM

16. Heaven!

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Response to Number23 (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:19 PM

18. salute to you!

 

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:39 PM

22. Great to see you back, even just briefly!

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:47 PM

24. Hey hey!

I'm sorry this place drove you to lurk mode--happy to say hi for a minute!

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:27 PM

31. just a quick...

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:56 PM

26. I have never posted in this group.

As an older white woman, I've never felt I had standing. I just read and learn...so much. Thank you for what you do.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:13 PM

27. I have likewise only posted in this group

 

once or twice, because as an older white woman I don't think I have much standing to say anything here. It seems as if you, as a group, have been incredibly tolerant of disrupters, and I'm genuinely distressed that you have had to put up with such nonsense in a forum called Democratic Underground.

Ban away. Some people do deserve it.

I myself have been banned from one group and one group only, and while I think they (the Hillary group) are far too sensitive to criticism, it is within their rights to ban whoever they want.

So please keep your group strong.

SheilaT

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #27)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:24 AM

35. Yes, Groups Hosts have the right to block anyone who is there to disrupt.. As a new host of

the Hillary Group I've done the same..

Your opinion is that we're "too sensitive" but in my opinion we're not the only ones.

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Response to Cha (Reply #35)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 08:38 PM

52. I was blocked from the Hillary group in 2016

Because I dared say I was opposed to the general concept of having superdelegates. I was therefore accused of being a Bernie supporter and blocked from the group.

Ever since then, I avoid posting in any groups whenever possible

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:17 PM

28. K&R and thanks from an old white woman

Who gets educated here every day.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:23 PM

29. I have read this twice and still can't figure out what your trying to say

 

I got blocked (they say I am not banned) from bernie group for saying he needs to appeal to more minorities!

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Response to captainarizona (Reply #29)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:31 PM

30. I can't speak to the actions of the hosts of other groups

That's a group I personally have in trash because - that's not my candidate of choice and there's really nothing I can add that's positive to the discussion.

Their group their rules, African American group our. . . very basic rules.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:31 PM

32. KnR

Great group, great hosts. You all~

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:35 PM

33. JAG for you and all the regulars:



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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:15 AM

34. You all have been so Patient, Gen.. I marveled at how patient everyone was.. But,

of course.. a lot of those whose MO is to disrupt took advantage of that.

Thank you, Number23, Onpatrol98, Blue_Tires, 1StrongBlackMan, and Starry Messenger for all the work you do!

I am honored to support your AA Group~

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:01 AM

36. I have to say too..

that like other people on this thread..

I have learned so much.. and still more to learn.. thank you all!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:48 PM

37. I saw that hide of Number23's post

 

It is proof that the jury system is garbage. Moderation needs to come back.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #37)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 11:56 PM

38. The admins can 'dial down' people's jury participation ability.

Maybe they need to do that to people who are going after certain DUers because of their cultural or racial affiliations. Or, they can turn off their ability to alert if they're going OTT.

Maybe they need to do a little selective moderating themselves, just for a bit. It might make a few people shape up.

The thing I think they really need to do is stop treating newcomers like they're equally vested here--because they aren't. Someone shows up on a Tuesday, racks up a thousand posts in a few days, and they're going to see jury duty at least once a day if they're on a lot. I think in order to hit that point, it should be a function of TIME and posts--i.e. six months as a member, and 1000 posts--whichever comes LAST. That would slow down a lot of this garbage.

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Response to MADem (Reply #38)

Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:12 AM

39. If they do that and contribute a pittance

 

to get a star, they hold more weight than me- a three term moderator and a two term MIRT.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 09:11 AM

40. Thank you, all. nt.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:38 AM

41. FYI gollygee is now a host of AA forum too! She has been a friend to this forum for a long

time and her posts have been wonderful. She didn't just decide to pop in when the AA experience suddenly became "interesting" to a certain cadre here.

And unfortunately, Blue_Tires has been retired as a host due to his transparency page showing. So between he, bravenak, LiberalStalwart and giftedgirl, this web site is down several minority voices all at the same time. And DU shows every SINGLE day of every SINGLE week how desperately it needs diverse voices.

We are very lucky in our friends in this forum. We have so many wonderful ones.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #41)

Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:07 AM

42. See my update!

Added gollygee - but standing on a hill.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #42)

Mon Aug 24, 2015, 07:27 PM

43. Blue_Tires is back from this time out and hosting yet again!



We have got some excellent hosts. Of all races, genders and supporting all types of candidates. This forum is in good hands.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:06 AM

44. kick

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:25 PM

45. Jen and other hosts, I am so sorry! I know I have blown up your inboxes because I have "unblocked"

more than a dozen banned members from our block list. Please forgive me. I just wanted to tidy up a bit because I know that I have not been here in months.

I kept a few names that had been PPRd though; I was SHOCKED at a few of the names that I saw that had been kicked off!!

I created a thread about it but it was deleted. Oh, such tender and ceaselessly boring flowers squat on DU nowadays.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #45)

Thu Jul 6, 2017, 08:24 AM

46. No problem!

I did a clean up a few months ago too. I was shocked at some of the names too. Oh well -

Now I know what the 'hullaboo' was about first thing this a.m. I.E. A heads up on what happened last night.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #45)

Thu Jul 6, 2017, 04:59 PM

47. PS

I don't know why that was alerted on but it was spot on. When I went through that exercise a few months ago. . . it got tedious.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2018, 08:55 AM

48. More AA group business

I had a post where I was warning someone (as stated in this thread) temporarily hidden because someone alerted on it claiming it violated DU rules. I appealed and it was reinstated. However, it makes me worried about warning people. If people are going to hide warning posts, I'm just going to block without a warning.

Also, I've made heaven05 a host, but as he isn't a star member, I'm not sure if he has the group superpowers.

Most of our hosts are not active right now, and as this is an African American group, I think we should have more African American hosts. If someone is a long-term and active member and is African American and is willing to host, please let me know. If I don't recognize you and you don't have a long history with many posts I can search on the site, please don't bother contacting me.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2018, 11:41 AM

49. May I ask if Number23 appealed that jury hide to admins? As a long term host of other groups,

I would be quite concerned that juries were hiding host posts trying to moderate the group... I don't think admins intended that to happen.

Just a thought. I know this is not recent, but you still might consider direct email to admins about the issue.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 08:09 PM

50. i've been gone a while...

and i think iím kinda digging this new semi-gully approach to moderation-
iím gonna hang out some more before i chime in any more than that

my old message board battlegrounds crashed and i need some #thatsite action lol
anyway
more soon come

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 08:22 PM

51. Thank-you

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 08:45 PM

53. Your statement & policy is clear and reasonable. I support you dealing with antagonists & disruptors

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:10 PM

54. I have not read the recent goings on but

I have subscribed to this group for a long time.

Thereís a lot for old white guys like me to learn here.

Iíve never seen anything but reasonable moderation here.

Do what you need to do to keep a decent environment in the group.

I for one am with you!

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