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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 06:51 PM Apr 2013

just sad

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from the You Tube description
"Notice how the woman on the phone admits Senator Corker seems to want mentally ill people to buy guns. And that she does not agree with him," Whaley wrote on her blog on April 19. (Watch the full phone conversation in the video above.)

Actually, Sen Corker's assistant said no such thing, and her own video clip shows she either did not understand the reply or is lying.
BTW, the MT amendment only covered some gun shows some online sales, since most online sales, and all of the ones I have been involved in, are covered by the 1968 Gun Control Act and the Brady law.
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just sad (Original Post) gejohnston Apr 2013 OP
It must be a hard job to be an intern for an NRA sock puppet in the US Senate! eom rdharma Apr 2013 #1
thing is gejohnston Apr 2013 #2
Forty-six of them don't care what anybody but the NRA thinks..... lastlib Apr 2013 #3
or simply never read the bill gejohnston Apr 2013 #4
pot, meet kettle. lastlib Apr 2013 #5
for example? gejohnston Apr 2013 #11
What is this general dishonesty to which you refer, of which anti's are allegedly guilty? Loudly Apr 2013 #6
Bloomburg gejohnston Apr 2013 #9
That's a distinction without a difference to the dead. Loudly Apr 2013 #13
appeal to emotion gejohnston Apr 2013 #15
Mass lethality is the only measure. Loudly Apr 2013 #19
Dishonesty. Straw Man Apr 2013 #20
You seem preoccupied with the *source* of criticism about gun love in this country. Loudly Apr 2013 #21
No, I discuss the issues as they come up. Straw Man Apr 2013 #22
So access to the means of convenient murder is your "right" is it? Loudly Apr 2013 #23
No, that's completely wrong. Straw Man Apr 2013 #24
There's no difference. That's the unfortunate reality of it. Loudly Apr 2013 #25
Tripe. Absolute tripe. Straw Man Apr 2013 #28
I have over 30 firearms. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #36
I'll gladly stipulate your expertise in re the dead, Shares... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #37
We may now see a rash of these dishonest videos. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #10
have you noticed on You Tube gejohnston Apr 2013 #16
I've seen it go both ways. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #35
You can't tell if it's one of your constituents calling by the area code. rdharma Apr 2013 #7
area codes don't cross state lines gejohnston Apr 2013 #8
Then why does my phone have an out of state area code? rdharma Apr 2013 #12
your skype account? gejohnston Apr 2013 #14
Nope. And get's answered every time! PHONE! eom rdharma Apr 2013 #17
Another irony? DonP Apr 2013 #18
You calling me a liar? rdharma Apr 2013 #29
FAIL! earthside Apr 2013 #26
nope gejohnston Apr 2013 #27
The fact remains....... rdharma Apr 2013 #30
didn't make it easier at all gejohnston Apr 2013 #32
Still easy for nutjobs to get guns...... rdharma Apr 2013 #33
the MT amendment wouldn't have made no difference gejohnston Apr 2013 #34
Pretty punk. Controller/banners seem eager for culture war. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #31

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
2. thing is
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 08:25 PM
Apr 2013

most if not all ignored or deleted her call once they saw the area code because politicians really don't care what non constituents think.

lastlib

(22,982 posts)
3. Forty-six of them don't care what anybody but the NRA thinks.....
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 08:35 PM
Apr 2013

...or pays for, depending on how you look at it..........

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
4. or simply never read the bill
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 08:41 PM
Apr 2013

because it wasn't that great from your stand point. If they voted no on that amendment, but voted yes on the main bill, which never made it to the floor, they would have voted for a stricter law.

None of which has anything to do with an OP, which is about a NY resident calling Senators who don't care, and being dishonest which, quite frankly, pretty much sums up the gun control movement in general, dishonest.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
15. appeal to emotion
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:31 PM
Apr 2013

machine guns, including assault rifles, have been mostly banned since the 1930s.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
19. Mass lethality is the only measure.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013

The effect of the technology on human subjects.

Killing lots of people with essentially zero effort in a brief period of time.

What purpose of any merit is served to split hairs about that?

Straw Man

(6,613 posts)
20. Dishonesty.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 10:09 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:16 PM - Edit history (1)

What is this general dishonesty to which you refer, of which anti's are allegedly guilty?

Oh, I don't know, Shares. How about people who have been banned from a forum sneaking back in under another name?

Small wonder you have no problem with Bloomberg's lies. But answer me this: If there's really no difference, why does he find it necessary to prevaricate?
 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
21. You seem preoccupied with the *source* of criticism about gun love in this country.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 10:28 PM
Apr 2013

Conclusion: You lack any substantive defense of it.

It's an irrational fetish, I get that. The heart wants what it wants.

But how much longer are we going to indulge you in it?

Straw Man

(6,613 posts)
22. No, I discuss the issues as they come up.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:03 PM
Apr 2013

The issue here is the dishonesty of some gun-control advocates.

My concern for my rights is not a fetish, and it is not dependent on your "indulgence."

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
23. So access to the means of convenient murder is your "right" is it?
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:30 PM
Apr 2013

The means of depriving others of all their genuine rights.

Very self-serving perception of the world you've got there.

Needs an upgrade.

Straw Man

(6,613 posts)
24. No, that's completely wrong.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:44 PM
Apr 2013
So access to the means of convenient murder is your "right" is it?

The means of depriving others of all their genuine rights.

Of course not. Don't be foolish. Access to the means of convenient self-defense is my right. There's a difference, you see. Murder is against the law, as is depriving others of their legal rights.
 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
25. There's no difference. That's the unfortunate reality of it.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:53 PM
Apr 2013

Your access is emblematic of anyone's.

The victims of gun violence have you to thank.

Yes. You.

Straw Man

(6,613 posts)
28. Tripe. Absolute tripe.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:35 AM
Apr 2013

Last edited Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Your access is emblematic of anyone's.

The victims of gun violence have you to thank.

Yes. You.

Your logic makes everyone with a penis a rapist and everyone with hands a strangler. What pure, unadulterated hogwash.

No difference between murder and self-defense? I think you'd better have your moral compass calibrated.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
36. I have over 30 firearms.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:57 AM
Apr 2013

Every last one of them I acquired WITH a background check. Every gun show in my state I have ever been to, required membership, and therefore a background check to attend.

Every single one.

Want to tighten up the laws without fucking with people like me, fine, go to town, I've got your back.
Add a bunch of amendments and regulations that make for a pain in my ass, and we have a problem.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
10. We may now see a rash of these dishonest videos.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:24 PM
Apr 2013

It is strange that those in the echo chamber believe that falsely representing what others have said is an effective tactic.

It's no more effective than their endless name-calling and their false claim that every piece of information contrary to theirs is an "NRA talking point."

If there is an uptick in such videos, it's because they like publicity.



gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
16. have you noticed on You Tube
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:34 PM
Apr 2013

and Facebook that comments are disabled on anti gun videos and pages, while the pro gun ones are not?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
35. I've seen it go both ways.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:55 AM
Apr 2013

Facebook does things by algorithm. No other way to manage that data. So it's pretty much based on the number of people that hit 'alert' on any given thing.


Edit: Whoops, you mean the vast array of videos in which the poster actually turns off comments directly themselves, sorry. I didn't read that very carefully it seems.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
7. You can't tell if it's one of your constituents calling by the area code.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:16 PM
Apr 2013

And you also can't tell if it's one of your constituents by the accent.

Just sayin'.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
18. Another irony?
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:55 PM
Apr 2013

In a thread that shows that gun grabbers have no problem lying their ass off for their version of the greater good.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
29. You calling me a liar?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:17 AM
Apr 2013

'Cause you would be wrong........ again.

You mustn't get out much. How many people do you know who have moved and kept their wireless phone numbers.

Land lines have gone the way of the dinosaur..... but are still the favorite of the old fogy and conservative knuckle dragger crowds.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
26. FAIL!
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:02 AM
Apr 2013

I'm a supporter of gun control legislation.

This video is a discredit to those of us who favor universal background checks, magazine limitations, etc.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
27. nope
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:24 AM
Apr 2013

you can watch it on You Tube, and BTW,
http://momsdemandaction.org/in-the-news/heather-whaley-mom-prank-calls-senator-bob-corker-to-advocate-for-gun-control-video/
So, I'm guessing you are saying that someone hacked their web site.
BTW, why did Schumer vote to water down his own bill by voting for the amendment that gun control advocates are pissed off about?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
30. The fact remains.......
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:38 AM
Apr 2013

Whether the intern admitted it or not........Corker's vote made it easier for folks with severe mental problems to get guns.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
34. the MT amendment wouldn't have made no difference
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:48 AM
Apr 2013

it concentrated on gun shows, where most sellers are FFLs, and internet, where most are brokered by FFLs. Have to read the bill.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
31. Pretty punk. Controller/banners seem eager for culture war.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:20 AM
Apr 2013

I would say they favor the ol' 60s slogan "By any means necessary," but that would entail, you know...

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