It appears that semiautomatic 9 mm pistols are the weapon of choice

[jpak]

for mass murderers and terrorists.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/single-gun-recovered-accused-boston-bombers/story?id=19028841#.UXp556KTibt

Plentiful - easy to obtain.

Lots of cheap ammo and clips available.

This is what the 2nd Amendment is all about.

yup

[hack89]

1. Which is why we must ban semi-automatic rifles.

why bother with saving 30,000 lives when we can save 200!!

[CreekDog]

12. more NRA logic: can't regulate or ban one type of gun because there's another

but can't ban others because, because, because...come on now, i'm going to call you all gun grabbers and stomp my feet.

[hack89]

13. But logic says the banning the type of gun that kills 15 times more people than the other

makes sense, does it not?

The fact the controllers can say with a straight face that they will ban guns to save 200 lives but not to save 30,000 cuts to the heart of why you cannot be trusted.

Either your logic is seriously fucked up or you are lying.

[CreekDog]

14. so you would have opposed the 1957 civil rights act because it was not perfect, yes?

that seems to be your argument here.

[hack89]

15. Defend the logic for me

banning assault weapons is needed for public safety while there is no similar need to ban handguns?

Explain that to me with no diversion or deflections. Give me a logical reason to believe that controllers really have no desire to ban guns beyond rifles.

The 1957 civil rights act, while not perfect, did not ignore significant issues while concentrating on peripheral ones. And there was no hidden agenda involved.

[CreekDog]

16. i can't respond to the NRA paranoia you've just posted

[hack89]

17. I have no fear of guns bans - controllers don't have that power in America

I am just curious about the twisted logic that drives you.

Can you explain why we should ban certain rifles but not handguns? Be honest - it is merely to get a political victory of any sorts - right?

[DonP]

24. Seems to struggle with conversation outside the echo chamber

I guess the response to any point of view or fact, for those with an obvious flat spot in their psyche is; "NRA Talking Point" repeated over and over for every response, kind of like a deranged parrot.

A simple fact was presented; e.g. Far more people are killed with handguns every year than rifles, assault or otherwise.

And a basic question was asked; If you want to ban assault weapons to save lives, why aren't you trying to ban handguns first or at the same time?

Squawk! NRA Talking Points! Squawk!

And we're the ones that live in fear?

(I also noticed at least one of them is now bugging Skinner in the ATA to close the Gungeon again. I thought that's why they wanted their safe haven, also known as "Bansalot".)

[Duckhunter935]

26. yep got one post in

promptly banned

[Eleanors38]

29. 'Bansalot.' LOL!

Someone is following my advice about ridding DU of liberals & progs with guns: If you guys want to be rid of us, cut the stigatization crap (it doesn't work). and play your strong suit -- go for banning the gungeon group, and allow an elite group to toss out any views which do not comport with Bansalot doctrine.

[CokeMachine]

18. Because you have no logic to support

your views.

[WinniSkipper]

30. "Not Perfect"

..and "frivolous waste of political capital" are not the same

[CokeMachine]

19. You're better off not even responding to that one.

His main purpose is to get you to say something that will get you hidden or banned. He was the king of Meta or so he thought. He has no intent on having any kind of meaningful discussion about guns (probably because he doesn't know anything about the subject).

Take Care

[hansberrym]

27. Just a sample of Anti logic: citing Aymette and Miller, antis claim that only weapons with a

military usefulness are protected by the second amendment.

Next they claim that AWB is constitutional since it only bans military style weapons.

Then then say nobody wants to take your guns away.

[ileus]

2. I traded one of mine for a dirt bike

Good news is I still have two left.

Bad news is I need to replace my old one, it was a compact. This time I'm looking for another full sized one for plinking and home defense.

I'm thinking either a sig p226 or a M&P.

I know some go bu the "9mm won't save you" idea but IMHO the 9mm is a great life saving round.

My newest when I acquire it (need another AR upper for deer season first) is going to be my HD goto pistol for protecting the family.

[spin]

3. Interesting. I heard AR-15 style rifles were the problem and that banning them ...

was absolutely necessary. I learned this from the gun control advocates here on DU where such weapons are commonly called "weapons of mass murder."

Perhaps gun control advocates will consider banning evil looking black 9mm pistols similar to Ruger models. A ban on fireworks and pressure cookers could be added and lumped together in a new bill called the Terrorism and Mass Murder Prevention Law.

I have heard from the media that bombs can be designed using hydrogen peroxide. Of course a number of common household chemicals can be used to create a bomb. Perhaps they should also be banned under the bill. The Boston bombs also used remote controls from toys. Add them too.

But you have only mentioned 9mm pistols. The 9mm is not an exceptionally powerful round for a semiautomatic pistol. Perhaps gun control advocates should push for a ban on all pistols.

I personally feel the only ban that will truly work to stop all terrorism and mass murder is to ban all people. This would also solve the global warming problem and all forms of pollution.

[razee]

6. You can make a bomb out of cake flour

if you get the conditions right.

[DonP]

4. "Lots of cheap ammo and clips available" Ha!! That's a good one.

Somebody at ABC obviously hasn't been near a gun store or a Cabela's for a while.

[ileus]

5. well the did say "clips"

Normal run of the mill antidolts.

[Straw Man]

7. Yup, we'd all be much safer if they used a .40 ...

... or a .45.

"Weapon of choice" just might be the asinine meme of the year: "Dang! I can't get an AR or a 9MM! I guess I'll just abandon my nefarious plans."

[sylvi]

21. "Weapon of choice"

Makes it sound like they took a poll or something.

"Good evening, sir. I'm calling from Pew Research and I was wondering if I could have a moment of your time for a few questions regarding firearms. Your name will be kept private. Yes? Good. What is your weapon of choice when your plans are to kill four or more people?

...

[kudzu22]

8. So what?

It's a good caliber. That's why lots of people buy them.

[krispos42]

9. We need a socialized 2nd Amendment

Where every chambering and every type of handgun are equally popular!


I can't wait for my revolver in .400 Corbon and my semiauto in 7.62 Nagant.

[Straw Man]

10. I blame NATO.

Yup.

[kudzu22]

11. What's the camera of choice

among child pornographers? Should we shame anyone who has one?

[sylvi]

20. AR-15 rifle, 9mm pistol

AR-15 rifle, 9mm pistol...what's the difference?

You gun fetishists need to stop trying to derail the conversation with technical minutiae.

[supernaut]

28. This guy gets it!

We don't need facts, we must purely rely on emotional reaction!

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

22. Actually...

...the correct statistical interpretation is that the 9 mm is the weapon used most commonly in multiple murder scenarios.

Extrapolating, should all 9 mm pistols and/or ammo suddenly become unavailable, some other weapon with then become "the weapon used most commonly in multiple murder scenarios."

This is just another meaningless bit of data serving only as a distraction in the debate.

[virginia mountainman]

23. This is why we win!

They can't even stay on message.

[DonP]

25. Yes they can stay on message - oooh look a squirrel! N/T