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zbdent

(35,392 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:39 PM Apr 2013

One reason why RWers fear the laws keeping "the mentally ill" from being able to buy guns ...

(probably)

1. Extreme (unfounded) Paranoia is a mental illness

2. Lots of RWers feel that the "big government" is massing just down the road to take away their guns ...

3. while flying in unseen black helicopters ...

and

4. 2+3=1 - meaning ... since they could be deemed mentally ill for believing 2 & 3, they won't be allowed to have guns.

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One reason why RWers fear the laws keeping "the mentally ill" from being able to buy guns ... (Original Post) zbdent Apr 2013 OP
Good tactic ... holdencaufield Apr 2013 #1
I kind of thought... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #2
Straw dogs holdencaufield Apr 2013 #3
It's no insult, it's reality Mopar151 Apr 2013 #4
If you really believe that ... holdencaufield Apr 2013 #6
Get over yourself, please. Mopar151 Apr 2013 #8
Good advice holdencaufield Apr 2013 #9
I'm curious please provide the names. nt CokeMachine Apr 2013 #10
We have DU members who have posted their unease with this Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #22
... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #5
Not very clever but you probably know that. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #7
With the gun control loss in the Senate all they have left is coming here to post crap. DonP Apr 2013 #11
It sure seems that way. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #12
The neighborhood Crazy put a "Don't tread on my gun Rights" flag. Walk away Apr 2013 #13
Do you long for the day ... holdencaufield Apr 2013 #14
He shouldn't have to live near "those people" DonP Apr 2013 #16
Or, maybe a camp holdencaufield Apr 2013 #17
That's a pretty disgusting allusion but judging from your past posts... Walk away Apr 2013 #25
Where do you buy guns in secret? holdencaufield Apr 2013 #36
That would be in Texas. nt Walk away Apr 2013 #32
Do you have a problem with the 28th State in our union? holdencaufield Apr 2013 #37
Bigots are bigots. Go figure. But it's accepted here so no problem. nt CokeMachine Apr 2013 #38
I did move from my last neighborhood because the 2nd Amendment lover who.... Walk away Apr 2013 #23
You obvioulsy don't understand that ... holdencaufield Apr 2013 #35
Damn, back in the 60s rads & anti-war folks used that flag... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #18
Since (by your profile) I see you live in Texas... Walk away Apr 2013 #24
Since by your profile you don't seem to live anywhere CokeMachine Apr 2013 #26
Yes, mine had a punch line and yours was kind of sad and flat. Walk away Apr 2013 #29
Sorry I missed that CokeMachine Apr 2013 #30
Getting past your regional prejudice & stereotypes.... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #39
I assume everyone in this group are liberal Democrats... Walk away Apr 2013 #40
You'll have to live with it: Many armed liberals in Austin... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #41
Who's rabid? holdencaufield Apr 2013 #42
So you didn't even know he owned a gun sylvi Apr 2013 #31
I live in civilization. He would be in jail if that were the case. Walk away Apr 2013 #33
What is "Extreme (unfounded) Paranoia?" Redundant? Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #19
I'm sure people with actual mental health issues appreciate you using a serious issue to mock AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #20
It's OK on DU if it's controllers doing it though. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #27
We've all gotten that memo... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #28
it would apply to most of them. lastlib Apr 2013 #21
One of the bigger challenges Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #34
 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
1. Good tactic ...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:52 PM
Apr 2013

... For promoting your agenda. Insult those with whom you don't agree and create fictitious arguments.

I can really see why people and legislators are embracing your cause.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
4. It's no insult, it's reality
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 09:05 PM
Apr 2013

Most of us have met these goobers - batshit crazy and heavily armed. The next time you see someone packin' heat in a public place, see if you can find out why.....

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
6. If you really believe that ...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 09:19 PM
Apr 2013

.... and I'm going to pay you the compliment of believing that you honestly do not ... then you're not qualified to discuss the topic in any serious way

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
15. We have DU members who have posted their unease with this
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 11:16 PM
Apr 2013

because they have had episodes in their lives where they have needed help. They don't want to have their names in a database. It seems that it would be kind to think of how they feel when these words are spoken as were in the OP. It can be very hurtful.
Peace, Mojo

Response to Mopar151 (Reply #4)

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
11. With the gun control loss in the Senate all they have left is coming here to post crap.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 09:37 PM
Apr 2013

They aren't getting any new gun control laws (22 years and counting), so the best they can do is try and piss and moan here.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
13. The neighborhood Crazy put a "Don't tread on my gun Rights" flag.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 10:30 PM
Apr 2013

This is a Liberal leaning neighborhood so it's been the block topic for days. He lives smack in the middle of a nice friendly neighborhood and he has been stinking up the place for years. Now we know he has a gun and he loves it. He would have had to get a license through town and that isn't easy. No one is happy about this.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
14. Do you long for the day ...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 11:14 PM
Apr 2013

... not so long ago ... when Americans could prevent people who weren't the same as you from living in your neighborhood?

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
16. He shouldn't have to live near "those people"
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 11:30 PM
Apr 2013

Perhaps a nice area where all the gun owners have to live.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
25. That's a pretty disgusting allusion but judging from your past posts...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:49 AM
Apr 2013

I am not surprised that you are comparing your right to secretly buy and own as many and as deadly guns as you want to Auschwitz.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
36. Where do you buy guns in secret?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:21 AM
Apr 2013

I have many potentially deadly things in my house -- my car, a swimming pool, two rather largish bath tubs, an assortment of power tools, a couple of nasty looking hammers and a rather comprehensive collection of cleaning supplies. All of those items take more lives in our country than firearms ever will.

My firearms, on the other hand, are among the least deadly items in my home as they are secure and, when used, they are only used by people who are trained to use them, respect their potential and use them in a safe and responsible manner.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
37. Do you have a problem with the 28th State in our union?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:24 AM
Apr 2013

I know many fine Americans and many fine Democrats from Texas

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
23. I did move from my last neighborhood because the 2nd Amendment lover who....
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:42 AM
Apr 2013

lived next door finally beat his wife so badly that the police took him away along with his cache of guns. I sold my house and moved away before he moved back in. I am not the only one. I wouldn't want to live in a neighborhood over run by people with weapons and paranoia. If that makes me a bigot in your mind then it sounds like you qualify!

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
35. You obvioulsy don't understand that ...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:16 AM
Apr 2013

... moving out of a house, neighbourhood, county, state or country, because you disagree with the beliefs or opinions of your neighbours is your right as an American. The pursuit of happiness is your right and if being where no one disagrees with you makes you happy -- I would fight to the death to protect that right.


... FORCING SOMEONE ELSE to move (or even suggesting that they do) because you disagree with their beliefs and opinions goes against everything for which our Democrat parents and grandparent fought. It is vile and I would confound your attempts at every opportunity.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
18. Damn, back in the 60s rads & anti-war folks used that flag...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:07 AM
Apr 2013

...and they thought I was cornball for using the U.S. Flag. Hope my neighbors don't think less of me because I have a 11-yr-old anti-war sign in my yard, and a load of guns in the safe.

It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
24. Since (by your profile) I see you live in Texas...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:43 AM
Apr 2013

I'm sure your neighbors think you are Sane, Sane, Sane!

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
26. Since by your profile you don't seem to live anywhere
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:54 AM
Apr 2013

"I'm sure your" non- "neighbors think your Sane, Sane, Sane!"

See how that works.

Note to jury Just a quote from post 24.

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
30. Sorry I missed that
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:00 PM
Apr 2013

I took it as Texas bashing and didn't think it funny. Maybe I was wrong -- was I?

I'll work on my sense of humor over the weekend -- just for you.

Have a great weekend!!

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
39. Getting past your regional prejudice & stereotypes....
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 03:34 AM
Apr 2013

My neighbors in Austin are liberal, liberal, liberal.



(Unless they have now been entered on the "pariah" list that's been circulating of late.)

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
40. I assume everyone in this group are liberal Democrats...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:03 AM
Apr 2013

(unless it's really just a bunch of NRA trolls)and I have never seen so many rabid gun lovers. Are you saying that Austin is some kind of a gun free zone? Would your neighbors think you are a nut if you owned a AK15? I highly doubt it but I'll take your word for it if it is so.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
41. You'll have to live with it: Many armed liberals in Austin...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:57 PM
Apr 2013

and right here on DU. You can't wish it away. Main diff between myself and other gun-owners is they generally use auto-loaders as front-line weapons; I use hoary old revolvers & pumps.

 

sylvi

(813 posts)
31. So you didn't even know he owned a gun
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:11 PM
Apr 2013

until he put up this "flag".

You mean he wasn't sitting up on his front porch every night drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon and shooting out streetlights while mumbling about the "damn hippies" living all around?

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
33. I live in civilization. He would be in jail if that were the case.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:59 PM
Apr 2013

I know in some states that kind of behavior is considered the hight of etiquette but not here.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
20. I'm sure people with actual mental health issues appreciate you using a serious issue to mock
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:54 AM
Apr 2013

conservatives.

Kinda shitty if you ask me.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
34. One of the bigger challenges
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:09 PM
Apr 2013

Is how to deal with the large number of veterans who have served this country honorably but are considered mentally Ill because they suffer from PTSD. We're now talking about a sizable number of veterans and politicians are not eager to disarm them.

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