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Getting a tax refund and THIS is what I want. (Original Post) cbayer Apr 2013 OP
Now you're just depressing me Major Nikon Apr 2013 #1
Mine is 25 years old and has multiple problems. cbayer Apr 2013 #2
There's a half dollar sized device in the back of my oven Major Nikon Apr 2013 #7
We have one of those on our solar panel regulator. cbayer Apr 2013 #8
It blows when I'm using my oven at or near the max temp Major Nikon Apr 2013 #9
Ah. Every couple of years isn't bad, I guess. cbayer Apr 2013 #10
I think you are very fortunate, elleng Apr 2013 #3
As much as I know that my refund has been my money all along, it always feels like cbayer Apr 2013 #6
Right, it IS our money ALL ALONG! elleng Apr 2013 #16
LP or Diesel? Glassunion Apr 2013 #4
LP. We carry two medium sized tanks cbayer Apr 2013 #5
On Monday I was sitting on the deck and smelled gas . . . . . Stinky The Clown Apr 2013 #30
The two most dangerous things on a boat are the boom and the propane. cbayer Apr 2013 #31
I never, ever got a faster and more courteous adjustment than with that propane! Stinky The Clown Apr 2013 #32
!! I'd say go for it! pinto Apr 2013 #11
The old one has lived a good life and served me well, but.... cbayer Apr 2013 #12
What time should we all be over for the inaugural dinner? LeftofObama Apr 2013 #13
Sometime in June, lol. cbayer Apr 2013 #14
I took the plunge a couple of years ago. LancetChick Apr 2013 #15
I know I am going to love this. cbayer Apr 2013 #17
Go for it! & Cook with TLC.... :) mother earth Apr 2013 #18
Thanks! Now I am on a mission to find the lowest price I can. cbayer Apr 2013 #19
Godspeed, my friend...to cook is to love. :) mother earth Apr 2013 #20
Very nice! greatauntoftriplets Apr 2013 #21
Yep, I was holding my breath when I pushed the final button, and.... cbayer Apr 2013 #22
That sure is a beauty! Callalily Apr 2013 #23
Bread, I think cbayer Apr 2013 #24
Bread is a good choice! Callalily Apr 2013 #27
Is that single or double gimballed? Stinky The Clown Apr 2013 #25
If you mean, does it swing side to side as well as front to back, cbayer Apr 2013 #26
Beautimus! Lucinda Apr 2013 #28
I am so excited! cbayer Apr 2013 #29

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
1. Now you're just depressing me
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

My oven is on the fritz again. It has a thermal fuse in the back that pops every other year or so.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. Mine is 25 years old and has multiple problems.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:20 PM
Apr 2013

The worst is that it doesn't have any kind of thermostat, has no window in the door and loses about 25 degrees everytime I open it.

Everything I cook these days is either overdone or underdone, as I have no accurate way to assess the temperature.

What's a thermal fuse??

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
7. There's a half dollar sized device in the back of my oven
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:47 PM
Apr 2013

Right before the electricity goes to the heating elements there is a thermal fuse connected in-line. If it gets too hot, it blows and has to be replaced before the oven will work again.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
8. We have one of those on our solar panel regulator.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:58 PM
Apr 2013

It failed once and started a fire.

Sounds like yours is a PITA to get to. Why does it keep blowing? Can you put one of the UPC devices on the outlet that would pop first?

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
9. It blows when I'm using my oven at or near the max temp
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 01:05 PM
Apr 2013

And not all the time, just every couple of years or so.

I think it's because I use my oven at high temps quite a bit and somehow the device just wears out over time and fails on the safe side. That's all I can figure.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
10. Ah. Every couple of years isn't bad, I guess.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 01:11 PM
Apr 2013

Better to have it blow than to have a fire.

When our fuse failed, it melted and started a plastic tarp on fire. We were very fortunate, because it was right next to the battery bank and it could have been a disaster. It is also fortunate that we were home and one of us has a good sense of smell.

OTOH, the clean up from fire extinguishers is one of the more challenging things I have had to do.

elleng

(130,156 posts)
3. I think you are very fortunate,
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

and hope you get what you want; I have to PAY CASH MONEY to the tax collectors!

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. As much as I know that my refund has been my money all along, it always feels like
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:31 PM
Apr 2013

a gift.

I would rather just break even, but given the choice between a refund and having to write a check, I'll take the refund.

Sorry it didn't work out for you.

elleng

(130,156 posts)
16. Right, it IS our money ALL ALONG!
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 03:49 PM
Apr 2013

Must adjust my 'withholdings' for next year.
(Also did receive some from Dad's IRA, which is now taxable to me and brother, but did 'gain' some there. Really not shedding too many tears over my tax situation, but remembering Dad.)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. LP. We carry two medium sized tanks
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013

that will last us up to three months in the summer (less in winter because we also use them for heat).

Importantly, it is gimbaled.

And, as with anything one might need or want on a boat, it is expensive.

Stinky The Clown

(67,697 posts)
30. On Monday I was sitting on the deck and smelled gas . . . . .
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 05:28 PM
Apr 2013

. . . . . faintly. There was a county crew working on a sewer main down the road a little and I thought maybe it was that. Then it smelled like natural gas, sorta, but not quite. Then it smelled like propane. It kept kinda changing and I would get another whiff and then not. It was a little breezy that afternoon. Finally I called the gas company. The guy came out with a detector of some sort. He went through the house but found nothing. Being a barn, the furnace is in a mechanical room accessible from inside and out. He opened the exterior doors which are under and slightly away from the deck and the smell was strong.

Propane, not natural gas!

We went up on the deck and one of the propane bottles was leaking. You could hear the faint hiss it you put your ear near the bottle. It was the pressure relief valve (the small "nipple" opposite the main threaded connection).

The bottle was from Home Depot at the gas exchange thing they do. Since propane is heavier than natural gas, it tends not to dissipate. Instead, it falls and pools in low spots. The area outside the mechanical room is a lightly low spot with a paved entry and low retaining walls on either side. It was filled with a low concentration of the propane.

On a boat, that would be in the bilges.

I'm sure you guys have a sniffer system, right?




cbayer

(146,218 posts)
31. The two most dangerous things on a boat are the boom and the propane.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:07 PM
Apr 2013

You are really lucky you smelled it. We have an electric shutoff on ours which has to be activated before we can light the stove or burners. The propane bottles are kept in a compartment in the cockpit which is completely sealed. While it could conceivably build up in the bilge, we have enough safety systems in place to make that less likely.

Shame on Home Depot for distributing faulty containers.

Stinky The Clown

(67,697 posts)
32. I never, ever got a faster and more courteous adjustment than with that propane!
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:45 PM
Apr 2013

I had taped the valve to try to stem the leak enough to drive it to the store (with my windows wide open!).

They never even asked for my name. They just whisked the leaker away and gave me a new bottle.

Turns out they have a facility to purge a leaking bottle back in the tool rental department.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
14. Sometime in June, lol.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 01:38 PM
Apr 2013

I have to order it and have it installed, which will take place while we are out of town.

But party we will, once it is in!

LancetChick

(272 posts)
15. I took the plunge a couple of years ago.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 03:48 PM
Apr 2013

I had a range that was essentially a lemon and was SUCH a headache. Finally, when the oven conked out I decided to get the range of my dreams, which was too expensive, of course, and I LOVE it. Love, love, love it. I trust it not to set the surroundings on fire, I use it a lot, and I'm grateful for it, so it was the right thing to do, despite the cost. Sometimes you don't realize how bad you have it until you replace the offender.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
17. I know I am going to love this.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:08 PM
Apr 2013

I absolutely love to cook and the frustration of never knowing when my oven has reached the right temperature or whether it is maintaining any particular temperature is driving me nuts.

Plus my burners are either too high or go out and are completely uneven.

The added perk of having igniters to light and not having to search for a long lighter is just icing on the cake.

I believe in good tools if you want to do a job correctly and with much more joy. I am going for it (Fortunately DH has given seal of approval).

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
22. Yep, I was holding my breath when I pushed the final button, and....
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 05:53 PM
Apr 2013

it came up with almost exactly what I need for this stove.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
24. Bread, I think
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:56 PM
Apr 2013

I've been having trouble getting the old one up to temp, and then I can't tell if it stays at that temp. So... I have had a series of underbaked/overbaked loaves.

Callalily

(14,885 posts)
27. Bread is a good choice!
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:27 AM
Apr 2013

There's nothing like home baked bread. I've been making a loaf a week! YUM!

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
26. If you mean, does it swing side to side as well as front to back,
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 07:56 PM
Apr 2013

it swings front to back. That keeps the surface flat when we are underway.

Isn't it a beaut!

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
29. I am so excited!
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 01:08 PM
Apr 2013

It will be installed while we are out of town, so I won't be able to use it until June, but what a wonderful thing to come home to.

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