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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:42 AM Apr 2013

This Guy Is Seriously Out Of Touch

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/08/detroit-catholic-leaders-suggest-self-excommunication-for-same-sex-marriage-supporters/



Detroit Catholic leaders suggest self-excommunication for same sex marriage supporters
By David Edwards
Monday, April 8, 2013 10:07 EDT

The archbishop of Detroit told Catholics who support same sex marriage that they should effectively excommunicate themselves.

Archbishop Allen Vigneron on Sunday said that Catholics who support marriage equality and try to receive Communion would “logically bring shame for a double-dealing that is not unlike perjury,” according to the Detroit Free Press.

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“Catholics who promote ‘same-sex marriage’ act contrary to Canon 209 § 1 and should not approach for holy Communion per Canon 916,” Peters wrote. “Depending on the facts of the case, they also risk having holy Communion withheld from them under Canon 915, being rebuked under Canon 1339 § 2, and/or being sanctioned under Canon 1369 for gravely injuring good morals.”

“The Catholic Church would regard any attempt by persons of the same sex to marry, regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof, as null,” he insisted.



unhappycamper comment: This kind of bigotry is why I will never go into a Catholic Church again unless it's for a wedding or a funeral.
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This Guy Is Seriously Out Of Touch (Original Post) unhappycamper Apr 2013 OP
Just exactly who is he (or any other priest)... MarianJack Apr 2013 #1
WHo is he? He's the fkkin ARCHBISHOP. It's his JOB to decide MNBrewer Apr 2013 #3
He has NO standing to deny... MarianJack Apr 2013 #5
Tell it to the Vatican. MNBrewer Apr 2013 #6
The way my family and I would do that... MarianJack Apr 2013 #7
While I may not disagree with you MNBrewer Apr 2013 #8
Parishioners need to stand up and walk out of Ilsa Apr 2013 #2
I'm kinda glad he's said this... uriel1972 Apr 2013 #4
I'm Episcopalian and we are more open. "Catholic lite"-all the ritual and none of the guilt.... Rowdyboy Apr 2013 #9

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
1. Just exactly who is he (or any other priest)...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 07:43 AM
Apr 2013

...to deny the Eucharist to a congregant? Would he have denied a Civil Rights supporter in the late 50s?

PEACE!

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
3. WHo is he? He's the fkkin ARCHBISHOP. It's his JOB to decide
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:24 PM
Apr 2013

who should and who should not participate in that ceremony.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
5. He has NO standing to deny...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:58 PM
Apr 2013

...a sacrament to any person of faith based on their political beliefs. This is just as disgraceful as the numbnuts clergy who wanted to deny the Eucharist to supporters of John Kerry in 2004.

PEACE!

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
7. The way my family and I would do that...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:07 PM
Apr 2013

...would be to refuse to move from the front of a priest who would be stupid enough to try to deny us! It is OUR church, too!

PEACE!

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
8. While I may not disagree with you
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:09 PM
Apr 2013

The organization that makes the rules and owns the facilities seems to.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
2. Parishioners need to stand up and walk out of
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:28 AM
Apr 2013

Mass or services where bigotry is preached. Let the priests and preachers know they won't stand for it by physically abandoning the service.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
4. I'm kinda glad he's said this...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 07:31 PM
Apr 2013

It leaves the fence sitters very little wiggle room to defend their organisation.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
9. I'm Episcopalian and we are more open. "Catholic lite"-all the ritual and none of the guilt....
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 12:47 AM
Apr 2013

Works for me...

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