Israel says November Gaza strike that killed 12 civilians lawful

[Eugene]

Source: Reuters

Israel says November Gaza strike that killed 12 civilians lawful

JERUSALEM | Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:11pm EDT

(Reuters) - Israel has said it will not open a criminal investigation into the death of 12 Palestinian civilians in a November air strike on a house in the Gaza Strip during its war with Hamas.

The November 18 attack on the three-storey home of the Dalu family was the bloodiest of the eight days of fighting between the Jewish state and Gaza's Islamist Hamas-led armed factions, in which around 170 Palestinians and six Israelis died.

Ten members of the Dalu family were killed, along with two neighbors. Human rights groups said the strike appeared to be unlawful.

An April 11 report by Israel's Military Advocate General (MAG), released on Sunday, said the attack was aimed at "a senior terrorist operative and several other terrorists" responsible for launching rocket attacks at Israelis.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/14/us-israel-palestinians-idUSBRE93D08U20130414

[azurnoir]

1. oh so that's what it was a senior terror operative was it the 73 yr old or the 75 yr old ?

but of course that explains everything, well except why it took 5 months to come that conclusion

here are the names of 11 of the victims

The Dalu family victims were: Mohamed al-Dalu, 25; Samah Abdul Hamid al-Dalu, 27; Jamal Mohammed Jamal al-Dalu, 6; Yousef Mohammed Jamal al-Dalu, 4; Sarah Mohammed Jamal al-Dalu, 7; Ibrahim Mohammed Jamal al-Dalu, 1; Tahani Hassan al-Dalu, 52; Suhaila Mahmoud al-Dalu, 73; and Raneen Jamal al-Dalu, 22. The two neighbors killed were members of the al-Mauzannar family; they were: Ameena Matar al-Mauzannar, 75; and Abdullah Mohammed al-Muzannar, 19

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Dalu_family_killing#cite_note-amnesty-6

[John2]

2. So the Government of Israel justifies

their actions of going after a senior terror operative by killing 7, 6,4, and 1 year olds? Does any American support this justification by the Israeli Government? So to go after the criminal acts of one or two persons, you indiscriminately kill children and babies? There would be no justification in my conscious to do so. I would have done it at another time to avoid murdering innocent children and babies. It is no different than attacking them if they were in a hospital or church. Would the Government of Israel still have carried out the attack? In my mind, this is a War crime.

[holdencaufield]

3. "Does any American support this justification by the Israeli Government?"

How many Americans -- including our president and most Democratic members of Congress -- support the US doing EXACTLY the same thing (only we are killing larger numbers of civilians) in Pakistan and Afghanistan in the name of the "War on Terror"?

If you're going to be at war with someone -- people are going to get hurt. And yes, sometimes, those people are innocents -- but it happens in ALL wars, not just the ones with Jews involved.

[delrem]

4. Some people want that to stop. nt

[holdencaufield]

5. Yes, we do ...

... but only Israel ... retaliating against ACTUAL attacks aimed at civilians .. and not America, whose war in Afghanistan and Pakistan is meant only to protect against "potential attacks" (and it's not clear how killing sheepherders in Peshawar does that) gets any indignation here on DU.

When you can show me ten thousand posts within the last year aimed at stopping the US War on Afghan civilians then maybe we can entertain the idea that criticism of the Jewish State is proportional.

[delrem]

6. This is I/P. DU is larger than that. nt

[holdencaufield]

7. Show me the "Get the US out of Afghanistan"

thread with 10,000 posts this year... I can't seem to find it

[delrem]

8. It isn't one thread, and it encompasses the entire critique of the so-called "War on Terror".

I/P is by definition focused on I/P and to complain that I/P discussions focus on I/P issues is disingenuous.

But in fact I don't particularly like the segregation or ghettoization of I/P discussions because you are correct, I/P issues properly belong in a larger field, e.g. Middle East discussions, Foreign Policy discussions, geopolitics discussions, and so on. By segregating I/P issues in this way a whole field of discussion is forced into extremely narrow constraints, so narrow that I agree with you that in these circumstances too much is left unsaid and unsayable. Likewise in other forums at DU I/P issues, as such, are absent, and that has an impact closing a whole sector of the parameter of debate.

On the other hand, having experienced the heat of this group I totally understand why the mods and designers at DU partitioned it. The fact is that such heat is infectious and provides a bad example. I say this being fully aware that in my contributions to this group I've contributed to that heat.

I'm learning that there are more than two sides in the I/P debate: black and white this and black and white that, black and white forever. To clean the mess up and see the multicolored reality requires all contributors, one by one, do their part. Again I say this as one who recognizes that he has to clean up his act. Self-monitoring is needed.