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Related: About this forumReport Uncovers 'Water-Apartheid' in the Occupied West Bank
Study of Israel's discriminatory practices links water grab to settlement expansions in occupied Palestinian territory- Lauren McCauley, staff writer
A new report on Israel's water grab in the occupied West Bank links the widespread deprivation of Palestinian water rights to Israel's settlement expansion strategy, saying both demonstrate "a clear testament to its colonial and apartheid motives."
Published Monday by the Ramallah-based human rights organization Al-Haq, "Water for One People Only: Discriminatory Access and 'Water-Apartheid' in the Occupied Palestinian Territory," (pdf) reports that Israel has claimed up to 89% of an underground aquifer that is largely located in the West Bank, giving Palestinians only access to the remaining 11%.
The water grab has fueled increased discrepancy in water usage in the region with the 500,000 Jewish settlers consuming approximately six times the amount of water used by the 2.6 million Palestinians living in the West Bankwith the discrepancy growing even greater when agricultural water use is accounted for.
There is a grave injustice in the division of water, and the results have been catastrophic, Tawfiq Salah, mayor of West Bank village al-Khader, told Al-Monitor.
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http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/04/09-6
King_David
(14,851 posts)Everything's "Apartheid" or on another thread a poster has been making comparisons to Nazis.
It's gaining credibility ..
Ha ha ha..
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)supporters of such a sad state.
And you really know that the comparison was made between Palestinians of today with that of the European Jews of WWII.
Is that what burns your ass?
King_David
(14,851 posts)1st Oberliner now myself.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=39168
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)with what appears to me to be a photo shopped picture?
King_David
(14,851 posts)With anyone and probably won't discuss anything at all with that particular poster.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)But seriously that sounds like a winning ticket for you.
Not back to reality and Israeli apartheid: waterworld edition.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)a couple of years back, reporting much the same, but then we were told it was all the Palestinians fault because they just don't know how to handle water or something
here is a visual from +972 which of course we'll be told is false
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)is posted for all to see.
It makes one wonder what they are afraid of.
shira
(30,109 posts)See the 'Water Libel' below.
That is, if you're interested in the truth and aren't afraid of it...
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)You should work for The Onion, but they might not think what you are selling is believable enough.
shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:46 PM - Edit history (1)
In October 2009, Amnesty International made similar charges in a report that was poetically entitled Troubled Waters. Israel responded to the allegations by pointing out that the Amnesty report ignore[d] Israeli data, papers and reports, although they contain verifiable facts presented with total transparency. This questionable approach, which consists in systematically disregarding Israeli material while relying exclusively on Palestinian allegations, raises doubts as to the real intentions of the reports authors and of the organization itself. The Water Authority also provided a detailed response refuting Amnestys claims.
By now, there is also a new study by Professor Haim Gvirtzman, a hydrologist at the Institute of Earth Sciences at the Hebrew University, who highlighted how ridiculous the charge of apartheid was by pointing out that since 1967, Israel had connected more than 700 Palestinian villages to running water. Or, to quote the statement by Israels Water Authority:
Before the Six Day War in 1967, only about 10% of Palestinian households in the West Bank were connected to a central water system, while today more than 90% receive regular supply of water.
Yet, there is no reason to assume that any of Israels detailed refutations will prevent the recycling of the claims made by Amnesty or the new French report and, needless to say, the media and the anti-Israel blogosphere also love to deal with this subject.
I think of it as the water libel because it often echoes the medieval accusations that Jews were poisoning wells. One widely noted example is the Stinking Op-ed penned by the now disgraced British columnist Johann Hari to mark Israels 60th anniversary in 2008. Another arguably even more revealing example is a Guardian article by Victoria Brittain that was published in December 2009 under the title Who will save Gazas children? Brittain claimed that due to Israels blockade of Gaza...
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http://blogs.jpost.com/content/water-libel
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Ill do a google search to see if any credible articles available ...
Just did one and nope there aren't any!
shira
(30,109 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)If they have a case against Israel, they should be able to run it through Israel's Water Authority, and if not satisfied with their answers then show how they're wrong.
Note how real journalists/reporters go to both sides for a story?
Your sources don't do that.
That's called propaganda.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)indeed.
shira
(30,109 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)...WRT the water situation.
The Water Authority report is very transparent and demolishes this water apartheid myth.
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You like the pinning the apartheid label on Israel, don't you?
So tell me, what do you think of Lebanon's apartheid policies vs. the Palestinians there?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)they'd be called Israelis.
On edit: I do have to applaud you, Shira. Last month or so you were screaming about floatillas to landlocked Tibet in order to draw attention away from Israel, and now your commentary has wandered to only one country over. Good for you.
Perhaps your errant human rights dialog will upend: taking a headlong spill right into the West Bank and more importantly reality.
shira
(30,109 posts)....about the most blatantly obvious, textbook-definition type of apartheid vs. Palestinians going on in Lebanon.
Flotillas again?
Note how your lot isn't sending any to Lebanon or Syria either. They care so much.....
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I don't make excuses for Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Hamas, the PA or Israel.
Which one on the list can you say you don't either?
shira
(30,109 posts)...you're only pro-Palestinian so long as Israel can be blamed.
So no, you don't give a fuck.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Is that another Freudian Schlep? Are you admitting that Israel is involved?
Hush now, on the heavy f@cks, Shira.
shira
(30,109 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)marathon deflections away from any question that might bring the truth out. I'll ask you again.
Is that another Freudian Schlep? Are you admitting that Israel is involved?
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)dollars.
I invite you to shine light on the Lebanon/Palestinian situation but my issue and embarrassment is with the US blindly supporting apartheid israel and the atrocity that is Palestine.
shira
(30,109 posts)....but that doesn't seem to bother you. They practice apartheid vs. Palestinians...
http://www.fmreview.org/FMRpdfs/FMR20/FMR2013.pdf
Pakistan is also supported by US tax dollars and they practice apartheid...
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2011/01/apartheid_in_pakistan.html
Oops?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)building in the West bank currently?
It's always the smokescreen with you, right?
shira
(30,109 posts)Just calling him out for it.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)foolish.
Please don't put words in Purveyor's mouth.
shira
(30,109 posts)...the US supports Turkey to the tune of billions also, despite their illegal occupation of Cyprus, their own illegal settlements, Kurdistan, denial of genocide, etc.
And your response to that is crickets.
Got any more bullshit you're selling tonight?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)and you didn't fail to entertain me.
I'm not sure where you are going with this except nowhere?
The US also supported Iraq at one point. They supported Mubarak; which Israel also did.
This is the I/P forum, no matter how hard you try to squirm out of it not being it.
And just to be clear, just because injustice happen elsewhere does not Justify Israel's injustice over the Palestinians: no matter how shrill you wish to become.
shira
(30,109 posts)That you care so much about Palestinians, or care about your tax dollars, or care about illegal settlements, occupation, etc.
That's bullshit piled on top of bullshit.
Got anymore?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 12, 2013, 10:33 PM - Edit history (1)
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)be stopped and our non-support of Murbarak, as criminal as he is, was a great mistake.
$$$ to Pakistan, well they have a nice stockpile of nukes. Sort of like paying the 'purple gang' protection money, eh?
shira
(30,109 posts)...was a great mistake.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)At least we 'know him'...these 'rebel groups', not so much.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Because one criticizes Israel it must certainly mean that they love the PA, Hamas or terrorists.
shira
(30,109 posts)You enthusiastically support a theocratic, totalitarian Palestinian state whether it's the Fascists of Hamas or the PLO running the show.
Which gives the lie to your "humanist" approach to the conflict.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)you haven't written it yet, but I'm certain you won't disappoint DU in time.
King_David
(14,851 posts)LOL
Seething .
shira
(30,109 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)That's a start.