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Related: About this forumMIT Explains Why Toyota and GM are Pushing Hydrogen
http://gas2.org/2013/07/17/mit-explains-why-toyota-and-gm-are-pushing-hydrogen/In recent months, GM, Toyota, and Honda have all made big public commitments to put hydrogen fuel cell equipped cars on the road by 2016. Some of their moves can be explained by President Obamas expected hydrogen push and pressure from oil companies and gas-station owners to keep their infrastructure relevant in a non-petroleum economy.
Hydrogen fueled cars primary emissions are, of course, water vapor so theyre vastly cleaner than petroleum fueled cars at first glance. They also have the potential to be convenient, since they can be refueled in about the same time it takes to fill a liquid fuel tank. Still, despite gas station owners vested interest in a liquid-fuel model, theyve been surprisingly resistant to investing in the technology. Last year, for example, only 27 hydrogen filling stations were added to Americas infrastructure. Thats surprising for a technology that was once the darling of the Bush administration (Bush called for $1.2 billion in govt funding to develop fuel-cell technology in his 2003 State of the Union address).
Since then, of course, weve all learned that there are a lot of questions about just how environmentally friendly hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles actually are when the hydrogen that fuels them comes from natural gas, a fossil fuel thats produced through highly controversial fracking processes that releases huge amounts of carbon dioxide (at best).
So, whats really going on here? Why the sudden spark of interest? Kevin Bullis, of MITs Technology Review magazine, explains that, sometimes, miracles do happen.
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MIT Explains Why Toyota and GM are Pushing Hydrogen (Original Post)
jpak
Jul 2013
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They've got to do something to keep their jobs. One good battery will ecclipse this.
Gregorian
Jul 2013
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Giant utilities have also had their deep thinkers dealing with concept and implementation
Vinnie From Indy
Jul 2013
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Gregorian
(23,867 posts)1. They've got to do something to keep their jobs. One good battery will ecclipse this.
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)2. Giant utilities have also had their deep thinkers dealing with concept and implementation
of site produced power and storage. it is the storage part that has protected them thus far. SolarCity and Elon Musk just recently announced a program to develop storage capabilities using Tesla's work on battery technology. It appears that very soon, solar power generation for one dwelling can be made much more viable and cost effective using the same type of batteries in Tesla's cars. That means people with these systems will be able to disconnect from the grid entirely because they will have their own capability for dealing with intermittent power.
There are others working on gravity energy storage etc.
The biggest threat to these gargantuan interests is cheap, ubiquitous solar.