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hatrack

(59,436 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 07:46 AM Apr 2013

OFFS: NYT Pile 'O Cat Logs Op-Ed - America "On The Cusp Of Energy Independence"

Seriously, where do they get these assclowns?

A wave of new technologies has made it possible to extract oil and gas from shale rock formations, and the results have been astonishing. By some estimates, the United States is on track to overtake Saudi Arabia as the world’s largest oil producer as early as 2017, start exporting more oil and gas than it imports by 2025, and achieve full energy self-sufficiency by 2030.

American politicians in both parties have long dreamed of energy independence — not only for its potential economic benefits, but also because it could free the United States from the vicissitudes of the outside world.

Last March, President Obama said that new energy sources and technologies would make America “less dependent on what’s going on in the Middle East.” The Romney campaign, meanwhile, argued that energy independence would mean that “the nation’s security is no longer beholden to unstable but oil-rich regions halfway around the world.”

But that is a fantasy. While the latest energy revolution will be a boon to America’s economy, it will in no way allow the United States to turn its back on the rest of the world.

EDIT

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/opinion/sunday/the-dark-side-of-energy-independence.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&ref=opinion

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OFFS: NYT Pile 'O Cat Logs Op-Ed - America "On The Cusp Of Energy Independence" (Original Post) hatrack Apr 2013 OP
Yeah, that's a bit unhinged. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #1
I guess that's why they are building all the liquidifacation plants Champion Jack Apr 2013 #2
Energy independence from carbon producing sources? ... CRH Apr 2013 #3
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
1. Yeah, that's a bit unhinged.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 07:54 AM
Apr 2013

Even if fracking goes forward without regulatory impediment, it will peak in less than 20 years.

Maybe they are counting on the Saudis running out of oil entirely.

Champion Jack

(5,378 posts)
2. I guess that's why they are building all the liquidifacation plants
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:09 AM
Apr 2013

So they can sell our. "Energy independence" to china.
87 to 147 billion gallons of fresh water were used for Fracking last year. This is water that doesn't go back into the cycle and must be disposed of. Can we afford this ? Especially in these drought ravaged times?

CRH

(1,553 posts)
3. Energy independence from carbon producing sources? ...
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:40 AM
Apr 2013

And what pray tell are we to do with all the CO2 - methane pollution? The person who wrote this OpEd is missing the need for 'clean energy' independence.

There are so many things wrong with the logic and facts of this article, why go on?

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