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hatrack

(59,574 posts)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:47 AM Apr 2013

The Light Bulb Goes On In TX: No Water Equals No Economy (But No Mention Of Climate)

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Already the drought has led to consideration of wild, expensive ideas, like piping water hundreds of miles from the Missouri River to the parched Colorado River basin. Water traditionally has been mostly a state or local issue because communities draw supplies from nearby rivers or aquifers. But increasingly it is becoming a national one. Economies will rise and fall on the availability of water, whose price is inexorably marching upward. Litigation and rural-urban water conflicts are likely to intensify throughout the West and Midwest.

“Texas does not and will not have enough water” in a bad drought, the state’s water plan warned last year. More than two dozen communities could run out of water in 180 days, according to the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality. Looking ahead, the already-dry western half of the state is expected to be hit particularly hard by climate change. State leaders generally accept such projections, even as they question the scientific consensus that humans are a major cause of climate change.

Officials from Gov. Rick Perry on down are focused on expanding water supplies. Doing nothing could create “a reputation that Texas is not a business-friendly state,” State Representative Lyle Larson, a Republican, warned fellow lawmakers last month. Bill Hammond, president of the Texas Association of Business, agrees. “Clearly, not having an adequate water supply will harm us in terms of bringing jobs to Texas and is doing so now, already,” he said recently.

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Midland, an arid West Texas town at the epicenter of the current oil boom, had never imposed watering restrictions until a few years ago. Residents liked coming home to green lawns after a day in the dusty oil fields. Watering rules smacked of big government. Then drought caused reservoir levels to drop alarmingly. Midland imposed sharp restrictions on outdoor watering and hiked rates, albeit temporarily, on water hogs. Other innovations are on the way: a project to turn sewage into potable water will soon bolster Midland’s drinking supplies, a concept that has drawn interest from around the state and nation.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/sunday-review/getting-serious-about-a-texas-size-drought.html?_r=0

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The Light Bulb Goes On In TX: No Water Equals No Economy (But No Mention Of Climate) (Original Post) hatrack Apr 2013 OP
Midwestern states should worry about their ideas when it comes to expanding water supplies. liberal N proud Apr 2013 #1
Texas tried that in the 70s (the Mississippi diversion) hatrack Apr 2013 #2
In an Overdue Return on Karma Demeter Apr 2013 #3
Here's a light bulb that very slowly went on over my head... phantom power Apr 2013 #4
yes. In 2050.. stuntcat Apr 2013 #5
Another one that went on in mine... wtmusic Apr 2013 #6

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
1. Midwestern states should worry about their ideas when it comes to expanding water supplies.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:51 AM
Apr 2013

They will do some crazy stunt like suggest diverting the Mississippi River.

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
2. Texas tried that in the 70s (the Mississippi diversion)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:54 AM
Apr 2013

It would have returned 27 cents for every taxpayer dollar spent on the project.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
3. In an Overdue Return on Karma
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 07:11 AM
Apr 2013
"Drink 8 glasses of water a day, dry up a Texan"

http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/let_the_bastards_freeze_in_the_dark_drive_80_mph_and_freeze_a_yankee/

“Let the bastards freeze in the dark” & “Drive 80 mph and freeze a Yankee”

"Let the bastards freeze in the dark” (or “Let the Yankee bastards freeze in the dark” or “Let them freeze in the dark&quot and “Drive 80 mph and freeze a Yankee” (or “Drive 90 mph and freeze a Yankee” or “Drive fast and freeze a Yankee&quot were bumper stickers that were popular in Texas during the 1973-74 energy crisis.

The bumper sticker “Let them freeze in the dark” appears to have started by a Wyoming company in February 1973. Energy prices were rising, but toughened environmental laws prevented finding more energy sources. The “them” were the environmentalists.

Texans had other reasons (besides environmental restrictions on energy) for “freezing Yankees” in 1973-74. Federal regulations had required supplying Northeast customers with oil and natural gas at regulated prices. Also, Northeast politicians had suggested that Texans should have conserved energy during this out-of-state energy giveaway. The “Drive 80 mph and freeze a Yankee” bumper stickers were popular in Houston at this time.


Wikipedia: 1973 oil crisis
The 1973 oil crisis began on October 17, 1973, when the members of Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC, consisting of the Arab members of OPEC plus Egypt and Syria) announced, as a result of the ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer ship oil to nations that had supported Israel in its conflict with Syria and Egypt (the United States, its allies in Western Europe, and Japan).

The same time, OPEC members agreed to use their leverage over the world price-setting mechanism for oil in order to raise world oil prices, after the failure of negotiations with the “Seven Sisters” earlier in the month. Because of the dependence of the industrialized world on crude oil and the predominant role of OPEC as a global supplier, these price increases were dramatically inflationary to the economies of the targeted countries, while at the same time suppressive of economic activity. The targeted countries responded with a wide variety of new, and mostly permanent, initiatives to contain their further dependency.

5 February 1973, Billings (MT) Gazette, pg. 2, col. 6 ad:
Bumper Stickers for Sale!
FOR LIGHTS & HEAT
TURN OFF
THE ECOLOGY FREAKS!
LET THEM FREEZE IN THE DARK
ORDER FROM KINTZEL’S, P. O. Box 741, Cooper, WYOMING 82601

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
4. Here's a light bulb that very slowly went on over my head...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:50 AM
Apr 2013

There's absolutely no reason to expect that climate change deniers will ever change their minds. There is no magic point at which anybody has to look around and say "wow, this really proves i was wrong about anthropogenic climate change!"

stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
5. yes. In 2050..
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 05:55 PM
Apr 2013

when the oceans are half dead, all the rivers are polluted and the only animals left are tortured farm animals and mosquitoes, there will still be people saying Humanity can do no wrong, the future's so bright, and pressuring the little girls being made right now to make more copies of themselves.. and they'll do it! because nothing can stop us from our Mighty Majestic Rise!!!

(sry! This is the time I need a punching bag not just a keyboard.)

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
6. Another one that went on in mine...
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:09 PM
Apr 2013

The more we do to combat climate change, the less climate change there will be.

The more deniers will be "right". Truly, a losing battle.

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