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wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:12 PM Apr 2013

Exxon Gets Off the Hook for Arkansas Cleanup Tab; Dead Ducks Found Soaked in Oil



"A technicality has spared Exxon from having to pay any money into the fund that will be covering most of the clean up costs of its Arkansas pipeline spill.

The cleanup efforts themselves took a sobering turn as crews found injured and dead ducks covered in oil.

The environmental impacts of an oil spill in central Arkansas began to come into focus Monday as officials said a couple of dead ducks and 10 live oily birds were found after an ExxonMobil Corp. pipeline ruptured last week."

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/02/1810571/exxons-duck-killing-pipeline-doesnt-pay-taxes-to-oil-spill-cleanup-fund/
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Exxon Gets Off the Hook for Arkansas Cleanup Tab; Dead Ducks Found Soaked in Oil (Original Post) wtmusic Apr 2013 OP
Fucking hell!!! Autumn Apr 2013 #1
Fucking hell 2. -nt CrispyQ Apr 2013 #3
Here we go again. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #2
I was thinking Shadowrun (largely based on gibson's work, as i remember) Volaris Apr 2013 #17
Just sadness nt BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #4
Exxon doesn't have to pay? abelenkpe Apr 2013 #5
They didn't have to pay into a cleanup fund; not clear if they will be on the hook ultimately. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #11
A technicality has spared Exxon from having to pay any money ... AlbertCat Apr 2013 #6
YAY..YAY..YAY Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #14
This. ^^^ CrispyQ Apr 2013 #22
Corporate King of the Loopholes. Criminals all. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #7
Are they immune to lawsuits too? MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #8
Good catch. Exxon does not pay into the fund because the pipeline carries "bitumen", not oil Kolesar Apr 2013 #10
The pipe itself may not be owned by Exon. DhhD Apr 2013 #9
Send the bill to Canada its their oil.........!!! Historic NY Apr 2013 #12
That might work riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #20
Obama blew it!! SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #13
I feel sure that Sen Imhoff Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #15
So another argument against the Keystone Pipeline starroute Apr 2013 #16
The average Teabag voter Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #19
Too sad.... We keep asking for this to stop... midnight Apr 2013 #18
And the disgusting governor of my state is glorifying the fact that UtahLib Apr 2013 #21

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
2. Here we go again.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:00 PM
Apr 2013

Inhumane fuckers.









The free market model is flawed. Wake up before they destroy every thing of beauty on this planet.



on edit: Inhumane fuckers & 'they' are the corporate behemoths. The transnationals. The very ones our founding fathers revolted against. Artificial entities, with unique properties that living entities don't possess, claiming rights beyond which they should claim. There is a really good sci fi story in here somewhere*, but a story is all I want it to be, not a reality.


* Gibson's sprawl series? Does anybody really want to live there?

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
17. I was thinking Shadowrun (largely based on gibson's work, as i remember)
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:14 PM
Apr 2013

and NO, it's not going to be a fun place to live. The only remedy is to embrace want Chris Hedges suggests:

To declare Open Warfare against the Corporate State, by seeing NOT that we elect better leaders, but that the leaders we DO elect are TERRIFIED of us.

Yes, they will call it class warfare. I don't care about their opinion anymore.

That Exxon is immune from kicking ANYTHING into the kitty to help with cleanup here (on a definitional technacality, no less) has GOT to be illegal, in some fashion or another.

I want Holder gone, like fucking YESTERDAY.

SunSeeker

(51,511 posts)
11. They didn't have to pay into a cleanup fund; not clear if they will be on the hook ultimately.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:38 PM
Apr 2013

Per the article:

Exxon has confirmed that the pipeline was carrying “low-quality Wabasca Heavy crude oil from Alberta.” This oil comes from the region of Alberta where the controversial tar sands are located. Heavy crude is strip mined or boiled loose from dense underground formations that often contain a large amount of bitumen. This oil is very thick and needs to be diluted with lighter fluids in order to flow through pipelines. Reports have stated that at least 12,000 barrels of oil and water spilled into the town.

A 1980 law ensures that diluted bitumen is not classified as oil, and companies transporting it in pipelines do not have to pay into the federal Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund. Other conventional crude producers pay 8 cents a barrel to ensure the fund has resources to help clean up some of the 54,000 barrels of pipeline oil that spilled 364 times last year.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
6. A technicality has spared Exxon from having to pay any money ...
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:17 PM
Apr 2013

OK... that's it!

I say nationalize all the oil companies. We pay for them already.

we pay for their products
we pay for their clean ups
we pay for their CEOs

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
10. Good catch. Exxon does not pay into the fund because the pipeline carries "bitumen", not oil
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:31 PM
Apr 2013

But they ought to still be legally liable.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,082 posts)
13. Obama blew it!!
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:49 PM
Apr 2013

If Obama had identified the dangers and the bad behavior of the oil industry overall, he'd have won over some conservatives in the next midterm election. Now I don't think any of us stand a chance.

How in hell do we get our message through to the White House that they need to stand up to corruption NOW? No more kicking the can down the road.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
15. I feel sure that Sen Imhoff
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:57 PM
Apr 2013

and Sen Turtleface and Congressman Ryan will make allowances to place this inconvenience on the federal tab, despite their reluctance to add to the debt burden.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
16. So another argument against the Keystone Pipeline
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:07 PM
Apr 2013

Tell the average voter that they'll be on the hook for any spills -- because the companies aren't required to pay -- and that there will definitely be spills because the tar sands oil is more corrosive. (I think that's right -- wasn't there a thread about it a couple of days ago?)

That's something to push back on the "but it will create J*O*B*S" argument.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
19. The average Teabag voter
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:20 PM
Apr 2013

doesn't know enough to pull down their shorts before a bowel movement. They have their kids out playing in the oil spill right now.

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
21. And the disgusting governor of my state is glorifying the fact that
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:32 PM
Apr 2013

Utah, one of the driest states in America, will be the first state to have a tar sands oil operation as though it should be considered a privilege. Just the thought makes me sick to my stomach.

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