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jpak

(41,756 posts)
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:59 PM Apr 2012

Spain wind power reaches 60.5% demand, prices fall

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/16/markets-iberia-power-idUSL6E8FG8NH20120416

MADRID, April 16 (Reuters) - Spain's wind parks provided a record 60.46 percent of demand for electricity early on Monday, national grid manager REE said, after a windy weekend that reduced wholesale power prices to their lowest levels in more than two years.

The new record percentage set at 3:48 a.m. local time (0148 GMT) compared with a previous maximum of 59.63 percent at 2 a.m. on Nov. 11.

The Iberian Electricity Market's (Mibel) spot exchange OMIE set the benchmark "pool" price in Spain for Sunday at 10.99 euros ($14.38) per megawatt-hour, its lowest since fixing a level of 6.32 euros for Jan. 1, 2010.

Wind power sways the spot market, because producers can sell it at a considerable discount to electricity generated by burning coal and gas.

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Spain wind power reaches 60.5% demand, prices fall (Original Post) jpak Apr 2012 OP
Alternate energy generation doesn't work... freshwest Apr 2012 #1
Pumped -Storage helps firm the variability! Fledermaus Apr 2012 #2
Excellent news, pumped hydro grew 40% in 2011 according to the IEA FogerRox Apr 2012 #5
Rec'd for this vital update. Nihil Apr 2012 #8
We also have pumped hydro storage madokie Apr 2012 #9
$14.38 per megawatt-hour is VERY SCARY! NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #3
For less than a DAY Nederland Apr 2012 #4
Not really a valid argument against wind power... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #6
Seista! Kolesar Apr 2012 #10
Woot, a jpak post I can rec! :D (nt) eqfan592 Apr 2012 #7

Fledermaus

(1,506 posts)
2. Pumped -Storage helps firm the variability!
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:23 PM
Apr 2012


The 635-MW La Muela pumped-storage plant in Spain is being expanded with the addition of a second powerhouse, 852-MW La Muela 2. Iberdrola anticipates that this plant will begin operating in 2012 to help firm the variability of the utility’s extensive wind capacity.

http://www.hydroworld.com/index/display/article-display.articles.hydro-review-worldwide.volume-17.Issue_3.Articles.Wind-Hydro_Integration__Pumped_Storage_to_Support_Wind.html

FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
5. Excellent news, pumped hydro grew 40% in 2011 according to the IEA
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:01 AM
Apr 2012

635 Mw is about the size of Oyster Creek nuke in NJ. So thats commercial scale.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
8. Rec'd for this vital update.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:27 AM
Apr 2012

> The 635-MW La Muela pumped-storage plant in Spain is being expanded
> with the addition of a second powerhouse, 852-MW La Muela 2. Iberdrola
> anticipates that this plant will begin operating in 2012 to help firm the
> variability of the utility’s extensive wind capacity
.

And THAT is the way to do it!

Add wind and storage and you can do without a huge amount of fossil fuels.


madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. We also have pumped hydro storage
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 06:58 AM
Apr 2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salina_Pumped_Storage_Project

I chased after the largemouth bass there for 5 years running back in the '90s and caught my share of big'ens.
GRDA, owners of this lake use to say they were going to build another one up from this one but its been a few years since I last heard that they were so I'm inclined to believe they have reconsidered for some reason.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. $14.38 per megawatt-hour is VERY SCARY!
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:46 PM
Apr 2012

If you're an Enron or any of the other energy industry vampire-types.

K and R.

Nederland

(9,976 posts)
4. For less than a DAY
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:38 PM
Apr 2012
REE estimated wind power would decline to about 7,500 MW on Tuesday from 12,113 on Monday afternoon, or enough to meet a robust 30.5 percent of demand.

What do you do the rest of the time?

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
6. Not really a valid argument against wind power...
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:19 AM
Apr 2012

...unless somebody is arguing that we should ONLY have wind power.

And as others have pointed out, pumped storage facilities are aiding in increasing the amount of demand wind alone can meet.

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