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Thank God for DU!! (Original Post) Bonobo Apr 2013 OP
The sad thing is.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #1
Show me your Tits Major Nikon Apr 2013 #2
Thats a nice CokeMachine Apr 2013 #29
That's, really, the bottom line. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #3
This post deserves a medal. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #4
That was truly epic. hifiguy Apr 2013 #25
As long as they keep it in their group libodem Apr 2013 #5
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #6
Not only that theKed Apr 2013 #8
And frivolous alerting, oh no, oh my! Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #9
Whoopsiedoodle. theKed Apr 2013 #10
Wait a minute..... opiate69 Apr 2013 #11
Rules are for you and not for meeeeee! Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #13
... opiate69 Apr 2013 #14
Hmm.. not to belabor the point... opiate69 Apr 2013 #15
I think ol' Skinner is feeling up to his overalls in alligators. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #16
Yeah.. I saw that too.. pretty ballsy. opiate69 Apr 2013 #17
Heh Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #18
No shit! Mind like a steel trap you got there.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #19
Snooki, right? I shouldn't even know that. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #20
Hehe .. I just started watching Greg the Bunny on netflix recently.. My wife thinks I'm bizarre! opiate69 Apr 2013 #24
I may have to check it out, since there were two different sets of episodes. The FOX ones are the Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #33
Well, they've finally done it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #12
My mind is freshly blown hifiguy Apr 2013 #26
It's amazing how easily people are duped by extremists. name not needed Apr 2013 #34
And some of those same people feel that THE POPE is being treated unfairly by the nude boob people! Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #35
It's the reason I almost stopped coming to DU! Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #7
I love pron BainsBane Apr 2013 #22
Jumbo Shrimps and Holy Wars Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #36
Y'all need a hobby BainsBane Apr 2013 #21
"Can't we just agree to all ignore each other and let things be?" Upton Apr 2013 #23
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #27
That thread is about GD BainsBane Apr 2013 #28
Create a new sock to alert on hifi's post? opiate69 Apr 2013 #31
Uh huh ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #32
In case you haven't noticed, you're in the Mens Group.. Upton Apr 2013 #37
I tired BainsBane Apr 2013 #38
But, but, but... ElboRuum Apr 2013 #30
This group is for the discussion of subjects that are of interest to the men of DU Major Nikon Apr 2013 #39
a new hobby? You mean like creating socks to get around alert limitations? That kind of hobby? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #40
Yep.. and I know I'm as guilty of that as anybody as well... opiate69 Apr 2013 #41
I don't understand why they prefer the word boobs pintobean Apr 2013 #42

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
1. The sad thing is....
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:35 AM
Apr 2013

....they believe they are furthering women's rights by cluck clucking their tongues at women who "don't do feminism how it SHOULD and NEEDS to be done".

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
4. This post deserves a medal.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:07 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2616985

Pretty much sank the S.S. Dworkin with one shot.

It's fairly clear, after reading that thread, that there's no coherent principle involved whatsoever beyond "n00d pictures R Bad!"

They're just making shit up as they go along.
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
25. That was truly epic.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:58 AM
Apr 2013

LadyHawk is very high on my list of Favorite DUers, for many reasons. This kind of slice-to-the-bone callout is paramount among them. She won the Internet for this one. She gets the pony of her choice.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
5. As long as they keep it in their group
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:41 PM
Apr 2013

I don't much care what they say. But they are sure bemoaning the state of DU and calling out posters by name. Also quite a big hope hoops grave dance in ATA, he was apparently back under a pseudonym. You can see they target and wage war on people, then rejoice at the banning.

'They' scare the shit out of me.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
9. And frivolous alerting, oh no, oh my!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 06:31 PM
Apr 2013


Uh, yeah, and about that.... did you hear, a funny thing happened on the way to the laundromat:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=302058&sub=trans

Personally, I've only sent one alert in the past 2 weeks -the post got hidden- and it wasn't ANY of the ones they're complaining about over there.

But given the fact I've had some of the most ridiculous alerts in the DU universe thrown at me (like for saying "iverglas", or for saying I don't think "objectification theory" is a hard scientific concept, for instance) I find the complaints around "obsessive alerting" a little bit methinks-someone-doth-protest-too-much funny.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
10. Whoopsiedoodle.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:01 PM
Apr 2013

For those times when you're just not done tearing a strip off of the damn menfolk, alerts be damned!

I've sent i think...1? maybe 2? in a month. I could count on one hand all the alerts I've ever sent. It really should, by all rights, much more than that with the amount of personal attacks slung around. But, that's just not the sort of guy I am, I guess. Is that benevolent sexism? I expect I've gotten a lot of alerts in the past...and a few hides.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. Rules are for you and not for meeeeee!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:29 PM
Apr 2013

I'm seeing a lot of that, lately.

Apparently the fight against nekkid booberz and the dudebro gaze is so vital that all rules can be tossed out the window in pursuit of "the greater good". Even while demanding that the rules be strenuously applied to the bad peoplez, including inventing rules that don't actually exist.

Hell, if people want admin to be tougher on zombies and socks, I'm all for it. I was for it before they were. NO ONE is bigger on that idea.

But let's not play the game of "person H came back and everyone knew and no one did anything about it" (particularly if it's not true) while simultaneously, knowingly, deliberately covering for person(s) S,F,I,E etc. who return with distressing regularity over from their blog(s) after being banned so many times for bigotry, etc.

I've seen several thinly veiled calls for MY banning in recent days, which is funny, because honestly while I may strenuously piss some people off with my opinions (namely, that pictures of naked consenting adults don't hurt anyone, and "Feminism" to me means equal rights and reproductive freedom, not Burqas and censorship) I really do -I think- a fairly decent job of following the rules of this place, and I don't fly off with direct personal attacks and insults unlike some members cough cough. Closest I come, I think, is maybe occasionally calling some people on their post-modern sentence structure. I plead guilty on that.

But shit, even my transparency page is relatively clean, although my alerty friends did get one the other day, first one in a while. (Congratulations, my friend! )

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
15. Hmm.. not to belabor the point...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:35 PM
Apr 2013

But..... (you knew there had to be a "but"... )

From the ToS:

Do not attempt to intentionally interfere with or exploit the operation of the Democratic Underground website or discussion forums (eg. by "post bombing" or using any other flooding techniques, by attempting to circumvent any restrictions placed on your account by the forum software, etc.) 


Seems pretty cut & dried to me...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. I think ol' Skinner is feeling up to his overalls in alligators.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:58 PM
Apr 2013

Tough to drain a swamp under those conditions.

He's basically getting lectured and finger-wagged on his own website, over there in ATA; the gist of it being that the ever pressing quest to "fix" the TOS basically amounts to the old demand that all of DU accept a certain narrow definition of what constitutes, of course, "misogyny" and "sexism":

primarily meaning anyone who uses a word off "the list" (except the permanently exempt, who can say whatever they want, just becuzzzz) anyone who expresses appreciation for the human body, anyone who doesn't agree that naked pictures of consenting adults are TEH MOST WORSTEST OPPRESSION EVAH!!!, or anyone who disagrees with the self-appointed "educators" and ideological gatekeepers on, basically, anything...

No surprise, of course.

But given recent events, I'm thinking of sending this place another donation. No gig is worth putting up with some of this crap, I'd suspect.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
17. Yeah.. I saw that too.. pretty ballsy.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:03 AM
Apr 2013

And, typically, disrespectful as fuck. I`m thinking about tossing a twenty into the pot as well, but I think I want to wait until I see if imenja gets to join her sock first.

edit: btw.. like the new sig?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. Heh
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:12 AM
Apr 2013

If I were to start listing the departed sock hop in my sig, I'd run out of room fast. Too many names to keep track.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
19. No shit! Mind like a steel trap you got there..
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:40 AM
Apr 2013

And, you always seem to be ahead of the curve on ferreting them out.. nicely done.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
20. Snooki, right? I shouldn't even know that.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 03:16 AM
Apr 2013

You owe me a new keyboard.

Little fella still cracks me up, although if I was picking names now I'd probably go with "Cheryl Tunt"

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
24. Hehe .. I just started watching Greg the Bunny on netflix recently.. My wife thinks I'm bizarre!
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:42 AM
Apr 2013

I haven't seen Archer yet, but coincidentally enough, my local radio guys had Chris Parnell on yesterday morning.. It sounds like my kind of show.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. I may have to check it out, since there were two different sets of episodes. The FOX ones are the
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 04:37 PM
Apr 2013

ones I remember, although they were running them on IFC when I watched 'em. Some of that stuff is pretty funny. I remember there's some episode with Warren and a video camera and he's got a bottle of vodka and he's wearing a diaper... going "Baby wants to breast-feed!"... I think my wife and I almost died when we saw that.

Archer, though.. I honestly think that's the funniest thing on tv right now. Far and away. Watch the series from the beginning if you can. It's hysterical. The writing is genius.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
12. Well, they've finally done it
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:34 PM
Apr 2013

They've finally said wearing a burka is better than wearing a bikini.

I'm glad they're just being honest now, anyway. Only a scant matter of time before they are quoting Pat Robertson and Phylis Shaflay as the rational tenants of the otherwise decadent Western Culture.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
26. My mind is freshly blown
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:03 PM
Apr 2013

by that post. There is not a contortionist on earth unbaffled by those mental gymnastics. Holy shit.

Let me get this right: Islam is liberating and rational Western though is enslaving. Jeezus, I might go back to Equestria Daily. For good.

name not needed

(11,660 posts)
34. It's amazing how easily people are duped by extremists.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 07:13 PM
Apr 2013

Claim you're against "western imperialism' (see: civil rights and equality under the law) and people will let you get away with murder.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. And some of those same people feel that THE POPE is being treated unfairly by the nude boob people!
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 07:15 PM
Apr 2013

I mean, hello? How much more "Western Imperialist" can you get than the Roman Catholic Church?

Behind the Aegis

(53,833 posts)
7. It's the reason I almost stopped coming to DU!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:15 PM
Apr 2013

It wasn't the anti-Semitism or the homophobia, but the pron! (where is the snickering smiliey?!)

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
21. Y'all need a hobby
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 06:30 AM
Apr 2013

Last edited Sat Apr 6, 2013, 08:30 AM - Edit history (1)

Considering we're all such witches in HOF, why care what we say? You obviously don't understand or care to understand what you read, so why bother? What is it you find so fascinating about us? Aren't most of you married? I would think your days of chasing around the playground and shouting "girl germs" would be over. Can't we just agree to all ignore each other and let things be? You do your thing and we'll do ours, and never the twain shall meet. Enjoy you loved ones at home and the people you actually like on DU, rather than sowing discord day after day with women you don't even know. It seems so petty.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
23. "Can't we just agree to all ignore each other and let things be?"
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:04 AM
Apr 2013

You mean like this right here?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=19168

Oooh.."look at the names" and everything... I realize you didn't start the thread, but as usual you're featured prominently providing backup.

Perhaps you should make an effort at getting your own house in order before coming over and lecturing the Men's Group....

Response to Upton (Reply #23)

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
28. That thread is about GD
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:34 PM
Apr 2013

Not this group. One of the links is to a call out of a HOF member. I don't see the parallel. I can see by your remark, "as usual you're prominently providing back up" that you often poke around HOF, whereas I have very little awareness of your own posting habits. So is your point that as long as we talk about sexism or anything on this site you will feel personally aggrieved? Why?
What's the fascination with a separate group that you don't even have to read about? I happened to look in here for the first time in a couple of weeks. It appears members here make a daily habit of surveying HOF.

My "lecture" was a suggestion for a cease fire. Quit worrying about what is said in HOF, particularly when it isn't about you or this group.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
32. Uh huh
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:35 PM
Apr 2013

GD is a problem....a big festering problem because THEY JUST CAN'T SEE HOW WRONG THEY ARE.....WE CAN WIN THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS!

But this, this place is a true lair of villainy and evil, ain't it? I'd figure you'd want to stamp out this place first, no?

Upton

(9,709 posts)
37. In case you haven't noticed, you're in the Mens Group..
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 08:02 PM
Apr 2013

So chastising me for poking around HoF, seems a little disingenuous..don't you think? Anyway, I don't need to look in HoF..you and your cohorts push your old style anti sex 2nd wave agenda ad nauseam in GD.

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
30. But, but, but...
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:27 PM
Apr 2013

Whatabout teh menz?!!?

After seeing the utter craziness spouted by even the least overboard of the HOF regulars over the past couple of weeks, I am convinced that their regressive attitudes and utter lunacy in some cases, that their particular brand of feminism has nothing more to do anymore other than sitting behind a keyboard and giving men shit because men. I don't know how such brazen bigotry against such a large group of people counts as liberal, but I suspect that this sort of hate has been masquerading as a progressive agenda for so long that we just see it wrapped in the liberal cloth and I guess as such people think it belongs here.

Can't we just agree to all ignore each other and let things be? Hmm. Indeed, the question of the decade. Sure we can. As to the cease fire agreement, I'd kinda thought we'd had. Now that Bane's calling for a cease fire that already technically exists, I can say with honesty that there is no interest in HOF for keeping themselves to themselves.

Moreover, would I want to just ignore them?

Not after seeing the goings on these past couple of weeks. This kind of craziness requires an opposition, at least for my part.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
39. This group is for the discussion of subjects that are of interest to the men of DU
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:51 PM
Apr 2013

If your only intention is to come here and denigrate the participants in this forum, you should find another hobby.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
40. a new hobby? You mean like creating socks to get around alert limitations? That kind of hobby?
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 12:22 AM
Apr 2013

The only "hobby" anyone here is guilty of- and I plead to it myself- is being unable to just remain silent and not get dragged into it when the same group of people who have been starting fights on the same silly subjects for 10+ years; be they "someone used the word b****" or this week's crusade against smut, backed up by "science" from religious right think tanks--- do what they always do... instead of feeding the drama.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
41. Yep.. and I know I'm as guilty of that as anybody as well...
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 12:03 PM
Apr 2013

It's the damned Italian in me I guess.. ever met an Italian who didn't like to argue? lol

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
42. I don't understand why they prefer the word boobs
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:48 PM
Apr 2013

over tits. Obviously some male sexist pig came up with the word.



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