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spanza

(507 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 02:17 AM Apr 2013

The reasonable doubts about April 14 presidential election

This time, the outcome of the election results may have been different. Members from pro-government presidential campaign team Hugo Chávez note that more than 20% of the audit records do not match with the audit report compiled last April 14 by the end of election day.

The election results were not even vouched by all election observers who had been assisting the National Electoral Council (CNE) since 2006 in the last 10 elections. This applies to the Election Monitoring Network from non-governmental organization Asamblea de Educación, whose active members warn that with such a narrow winning margin like the one witnessed by most Venezuelans last Sunday, the so-called assisted vote and the scrutiny process without witnesses may have disrupted the balance.

"The election results are not questioned; however, it makes it impossible for us to accept irreversible results when the difference is smaller than the number of voters registered at the voting centers where irregularities took place," Carenne Ludeña from Election Monitoring Network explains.

The closing of polls was filled with violence, and as a matter of fact, 10% of the audit was made without witnesses from civil society or representatives from the opposition sector. Additionally, it was quite common to find officers casting ballots with a supervisor behind them, violating the right of secret vote.

Such electoral irregularities prevailed in most of the more than 1,200 denunciations issued by eight well-established NGO's which form part of Citizen Election Network. "The incidence of unjustified assisted vote was systematic in municipalities like Mara del Zulia," Andrés Azpúrua, in charge of this platform, expresses. "We do not know the percentage of citizens forced to make use of assisted vote; nevertheless, such denunciations estimate a considerable number of voters who reported irregularities like this one."This time, the outcome of the election results may have been different. Members from pro-government presidential campaign team Hugo Chávez note that more than 20% of the audit records do not match with the audit report compiled last April 14 by the end of election day.

The election results were not even vouched by all election observers who had been assisting the National Electoral Council (CNE) since 2006 in the last 10 elections. This applies to the Election Monitoring Network from non-governmental organization Asamblea de Educación, whose active members warn that with such a narrow winning margin like the one witnessed by most Venezuelans last Sunday, the so-called assisted vote and the scrutiny process without witnesses may have disrupted the balance.

"The election results are not questioned; however, it makes it impossible for us to accept irreversible results when the difference is smaller than the number of voters registered at the voting centers where irregularities took place," Carenne Ludeña from Election Monitoring Network explains.

The closing of polls was filled with violence, and as a matter of fact, 10% of the audit was made without witnesses from civil society or representatives from the opposition sector. Additionally, it was quite common to find officers casting ballots with a supervisor behind them, violating the right of secret vote.

Such electoral irregularities prevailed in most of the more than 1,200 denunciations issued by eight well-established NGO's which form part of Citizen Election Network. "The incidence of unjustified assisted vote was systematic in municipalities like Mara del Zulia," Andrés Azpúrua, in charge of this platform, expresses. "We do not know the percentage of citizens forced to make use of assisted vote; nevertheless, such denunciations estimate a considerable number of voters who reported irregularities like this one."

http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/130427/the-reasonable-doubts-about-april-14-presidential-election

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spanza

(507 posts)
1. 10 ELECTORAL IRREGULARITIES IN THE ELECTION DAY
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 02:22 AM
Apr 2013

COERCED BALLOTS

BALLOT REVIEW AND RECOUNTING WITH NO WITNESSES

DUMPED BALLOTS

FAKE ID CARDS

NUMERICAL INCONSISTENCIES

REOPENING AND LATE CLOSING OF POLLS

INTIMIDATION AND VIOLENCE

DAMAGED VOTING MACHINES

POLITICAL PROPAGANDA AND PROSELYTISM

ARRESTS AND ABUSES

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
2. huh?
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 10:52 AM
Apr 2013

"The election results are not questioned; however, it makes it impossible for us to accept irreversible results when the difference is smaller than the number of voters registered at the voting centers where irregularities took place," Carenne Ludeña from Election Monitoring Network explains.


What the hell does that mean?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. "The election results will not be questioned, and will not be accepted humma humma" is what I got.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:02 AM
Apr 2013

Being a student of US politics I have become attuned to the utility of immediately contradicting yourself in politics.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
5. It means they can't question it. Look at what happened to the Assembly.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 05:57 PM
Apr 2013

If you question it, there's recrimination. So, you're not questioning it, but you can't accept it. It's obviously double speak.

But in a Double Plus Good World, you gotta play the game. Carenne doesn't want to wind up in jail "supporting terrorism."

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. I think you better start reading some more. It's funny, how similar all this was to the
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 08:23 PM
Apr 2013

'protests' in 2000. And now we know why.

Hopefully this latest fraud from the Right, now exposed, will put an end to these coup attempts in Latin America always backed by Western money and 'expertise'. I guess that's why they are all pretty the same and so easily recognizable. Right Wingers while persistent, have never been very creative, reusing their old tactics over and over again.

Caprilles has now put himself in a position of facing prosecution. So stupid to talk so freely when you're plotting against the government. But then he never appeared to me to be very bright.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
7. The only thing similar about this to 2000...
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:32 PM
Apr 2013

...is the fact that the CNE makes Katherine Harris look like a saint with how much shit they pull.

I think you need to educate yourself about the problems with the CNE.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. I am well educated about Western backed right wing criminals and traitors in Venezuela and
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:11 PM
Apr 2013

other Latin American sovereign nations over the past 12 years. Venezuela needs to get far more tough on these traitors than Chavez was. That was his biggest mistake. But I'm confident enough work has been done while the Western powers were busy illegally invading ME and African nations, to ensure they will never again get the tragic foothold they once had in South and Central America, thanks in large part to the work done for that very purpose, by Chavez. A brilliant man who will go down in history as the one who began the liberation of Latin America from the brutal rule of Western backed dictators.

Try as they might, the world knows the facts and people like Caprile never fooled anyone, except those who support the retaking of that region of the world, and they are an ever shrinking minority, now that the world has witnessed the disasters in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, now Syria and 'secret' wars they think no one knows about, in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
9. You completely deflected with that strawman.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:37 AM
Apr 2013

Get back to me when you can have an intelligent discussion about the CNE's ignoring its own auditing laws.

They will not be arresting Capriles. I thought they would before but they had every opportunity and it sounds like they're afraid of what the audit would bring since they're resoundingly against it and using Katherine Harris style double speak to push their fascist narrative.

Any other country if there were allegations of fraud (especially if the winner was a perceived right winger) the entire forum would be all up in arms wanting a recount. Indeed, Chavez himself called for the 2006 Mexico fraud allegations to be investigated and even posters on this forum called for it.

There's a word for this, it's called hypocrisy.

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