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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 10:03 PM Apr 2013

Urgent meeting of Unasur in Lima to express support for Venezuela’s Maduro

Venezuela dispute prompts urgent meeting of regional leaders

LIMA | Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:31pm EDT

(Reuters) - Several South American presidents will hold an emergency meeting on Thursday in Lima to discuss the political crisis in Venezuela following the disputed election of President Nicolas Maduro, Peru's foreign ministry said on Wednesday.

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The meeting will be held under the umbrella of regional group Unasur in Lima on Thursday evening, senior government officials said. Peru holds the rotating presidency of the group. Unasur election monitors have said Maduro's win was legitimate.

The presidents of Peru, Uruguay, Argentina, Colombia and Brazil will attend the meeting and other leaders may also participate, officials said.

Most of the leaders, including President Dilma Rousseff of regional heavyweight Brazil, will then head to Venezuela for the swearing-in ceremony.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/18/us-venezuela-election-latinamerica-idUSBRE93G17920130418



President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner will travel to Lima for a UNASUR meeting on Thursday in which regional countries are expected to express their support for the elections results in Venezuela. After the meeting she will travel to Caracas to attend Maduro's inauguration ceremony.

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/128959/cfk-to-attend-unasur-meeting-to-support-venezuela
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Judi Lynn

(160,217 posts)
1. "concerned by the growing polarization of Venezuelan society." Really!
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 10:50 PM
Apr 2013

From your first link:

The European Union, meanwhile, said it was "concerned by the growing polarization of Venezuelan society."

It seems to alarm them that now the massive poorer class in Venezuela dares to speak for itself, dares to hope for a future. That must be scary to everyone who's accustomed to believing the masses are obligated to keep quiet, stay to themselves, stay out of the road, to leave government to the oligarchs, and not to dare think of themselves as their fellow human beings.

The "lumpen" are getting restless, is that the way you see it, dirtbags?

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
2. The EU should worry about the growing polarization in their own countries lol
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 10:54 PM
Apr 2013

Massive unemployment, homelessness, austerity against the poor that's making them very angry

but they're concerned about the growing polarization in Venezuela?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh the irony lol

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
4. And have you noticed, not a peep from the so-called Socialist President of France?
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:12 PM
Apr 2013

The French Left is demanding he recognize Maduro immediately.

They wonder what he's waiting for, permission from Capriles?


Le Parti de gauche demande à François Hollande de reconnaitre Nicolas Maduro comme président du Venezuela


PAS NORMAL - Le secrétaire national du Parti de gauche Eric Coquerel, par ailleurs conseiller spécial de Jean-Luc Mélenchon, demande instamment à François Hollande de reconnaitre l'élection du dauphin de Hugo Chavez au Venezuela.

Retour du #venezuela : Hollande n'aurait tjrs pas reconnu Maduro. Il attend quoi? Que Capriles l'y autorise? Allez un petit geste de gauche!
— coquerel eric (@ericcoquerel) 16 avril 2013


http://lelab.europe1.fr/t/le-parti-de-gauche-demande-a-francois-hollande-de-reconnaitre-nicolas-maduro-comme-president-du-venezuela-8625


Le Parti gauche demande donc officiellement à François Hollande de reconnaître sans tarder l'élection de Nicolas Maduro. Tous les observateurs, dont plusieurs membres du PG, sur place ont pu témoigner du bon déroulement du vote et la vitalité de la démocratie au Venezuéla : 80 % de votants, une ambiance sereine dans les bureaux de vote, un scrutin électronique vérifié manuellement dans 52 % des bureaux comme la loi le réclame. A bien des égards la démocratie au Venezuela est un exemple y compris pour les pays de l'Union Européenne. Elle ne doit pas être menacée. Que François Hollande prenne sa part dans sa défense… sinon comme le disait Allende "La honte tombera sur ceux qui ont trahi leurs convictions"

http://lagaucheparlexemple.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=297:francois-hollande-doit-reconnaitre-lelection-de-nicolas-maduro&catid=35:communique&Itemid=86
 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
5. Whether you believe the results or not, there IS a growing polarization
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:42 AM
Apr 2013

Back in October, 44% voted against the government. Now it's (at least) 49%. The numbers don't lie, there IS a growing polarization. And I'm pretty sure a lot of the people that conform that 49% aren't all rich right-wingers like you say all of the opposition is.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
6. They feel they need to segregate...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:10 AM
Apr 2013

... so they can create their bigoted and surreal fantasies of superiority that feeds their ego or lifts their self-steem. Like the woman in the thread Catherina posted, that did not want people from barrios moving to her area, or the dwellers of a neighborhood in my city that opposed a subway station because they don't want to have contact with people who use public transport (and thanks to them, their employees, maids and servants will have to walk almost a kilometer from the closer station). They don't like to travel by airplane with working class people, they can't understand how a maid dares to own a car...

They are the same, everywhere.

Judi Lynn

(160,217 posts)
7. Yes, you are right on that. I just recalled something I read a year ago or more.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 05:00 AM
Apr 2013

There's a wealthy neighborhood in the U.S. (I can't remember where it is) where they don't want their maids walking around on the sidewalks or streets to get to their buses, so they have some other solution so the workers can be whisked away and not be seen by anyone, and taken to the bus stop.

One worker missed the connection and started walking to the bus stop and was stopped by police and ARRESTED for showing up in their public spaces.

It IS the same, unfortunately, in far too many places.

Don't know how it is in Brazil, but occasionally in the U.S. we get stories about people who have been keeping their maids prisoners in their homes, making them work every day, long, long, long hours, sleeping on the floor, in some cases, unable to leave the houses to go shopping, get only tiny salaries, can't do anything about it, because the owners of the houses keep their passports, and they can't possible leave them.

It's only when they are bullied beyond endurance that some of them finally seek help and hope for the best and the news gets out.

What on earth drives people to be so damned selfish they finally stop caring altogether about the well-being of other human beings?

I have read about the Venezuelan oligarchs, however. It appears they are extraordinarily likely to ignore reality regarding everyone outside their social class.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
8. Urgent meeting of Unasur in Lima to express support for Venezuela’s Maduro
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 11:48 AM
Apr 2013

Urgent meeting of Unasur in Lima to express support for Venezuela’s Maduro

Argentine President Cristina Fernández will travel to Lima for a UNASUR meeting on Thursday in which regional countries are expected to express their support for the elections results in Venezuela and President elect Nicolas Maduro.


After the meeting the Argentine leader will travel to Caracas to attend Maduro's inauguration ceremony on Friday. Maduro succeeds Hugo Chavez who died of cancer 5 March.

The presidents of Brazil, Dilma Rousseff, Ecuador, Rafael Correa and Uruguay’s Jose Mujica have already confirmed their participation in the UNASUR meeting in Peru that currently holds the chair of the regional group.

The objective of this meeting is to make a joint statement supporting elections held in Venezuela with Maduro as the new president that have been questioned by opposition leader Henrique Capriles who demands a recount of votes.

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http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/18/urgent-meeting-of-unasur-in-lima-to-express-support-for-venezuela-s-maduro

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
9. Maduro ... on a plan to head to Lima... to join the meeting
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 05:05 PM
Apr 2013

South America rushes to back Maduro as U.S. casts doubt on Venezuela vote
By Terry Wade and Marco Aquino | Reuters – 55 mins ago


Reuters/Reuters - Venezuela's President-elect Nicolas Maduro holds up a photograph of Jose Luis Ponce, a supporter killed on Monday's post-election street violence, after attending his funeral at La Limonera


By Terry Wade and Marco Aquino

LIMA (Reuters) - South American leaders will make a collective show of support for Venezuelan President-elect Nicolas Maduro on Thursday in Lima, officials said, as the United States and his opponents call for a recount of the disputed vote.

Maduro will attend the last-minute meeting of the regional group Unasur in Peru a day before he is to be sworn in on Friday. He was named by late President Hugo Chavez, who died of cancer in March, as his chosen successor.

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Before boarding a plane to Lima, Maduro said in a televised speech: "In Venezuela we don't have an opposition, we have a permanent conspiracy cheered on by the United States."

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"This is clearly meddling," Morales said in La Paz. "We condemn this and repudiate it. We won't permit that Bolivia or Latin America be treated as the U.S. government's backyard.

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http://news.yahoo.com/south-america-rushes-back-maduro-u-casts-doubts-193011992.html

Judi Lynn

(160,217 posts)
12. Now THIS is a full day, in anyone's life! Wow.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:06 PM
Apr 2013

Bravo, Morales, for his "backyard" statement. What a shame it was ever necessary for anyone to have to say it. The U.S. has been wildly out of line for so long.

Respect will never really come from the end of a gun, or the threat of invasions, or bombs, or subversion, or covert operations inside a country, or destabilization and efforts to steal a government and put it under foreign control again.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
10. Picture of the meeting in Lima
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:10 PM
Apr 2013


From left to right: Maduro, Piñera, Morales, Humala, Kirchner, Rousseff, Santos, Mujica.
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