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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:09 PM Apr 2013

Venezuela’s Opposition Leader Calls for Mental Exam for Maduro After “Bird” Comments

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=734418&CategoryId=10717


CARACAS – A leader of the Venezuelan opposition said Wednesday that ruling-party presidential candidate Nicolas Maduro should undergo a “mental evaluation” after saying that late head of state Hugo Chavez had appeared to him in the form of a little bird.

“Someone who tells us ... that he is hallucinating, seeing a little bird and that that little bird is giving him instructions, obviously that requires that an evaluation be made of Mr. Nicolas Maduro’s mental equilibrium,” Leopoldo Lopez told reporters.

Lopez, a member of the campaign of opposition presidential hopeful Henrique Capriles, thus expressed rejection of Maduro’s remarks made on Tuesday, when he said that while he was praying alone in a Catholic chapel in Chavez’s native state of Barinas, the deceased president appeared to him as a “tiny little bird.”

Maduro on Wednesday reconfirmed what he had said and rejected the criticism against him, saying that “the bourgeoisie” does not respect his spirituality.

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Venezuela’s Opposition Leader Calls for Mental Exam for Maduro After “Bird” Comments (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 OP
Lol, proving once again that the opposition has nothing to offer Catherina Apr 2013 #1
Maduro gives the people bird poop Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #2
Correction- "in the rightwing press" Catherina Apr 2013 #5
I can just imagine how much it hurts to know that opposition isn't going to win. Yet again. :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #8
Oh look, opposition is showing its true colours! Sexist bigotry... idwiyo Apr 2013 #9
Such lovely colours they have eh? Catherina Apr 2013 #12
All that matters is they are RW. It's makes them good enough. See, it's THAT simple. :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #15
That was in response to Capriles being slandered as gay. joshcryer Apr 2013 #17
Both are bigots. Never denied it. I wish it wasn't so, but unfortunately it is. idwiyo Apr 2013 #22
I was just explaining why Capriles was being sexist. joshcryer Apr 2013 #23
Leopoldo Lopez? ocpagu Apr 2013 #3
oh please, if they actually enforced the anticorruption law Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #4
Actually... ocpagu Apr 2013 #6
maybe I should be more "maduro" and talk to little birds Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #7
Have no idea why I should give more credit to the opinion of a guy... ocpagu Apr 2013 #10
I am looking forward to the comedic material Maduro will supply Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #14
We totally agree on the impact the loss of another election will have on opposition. It's going to idwiyo Apr 2013 #11
Election loss won't change anything naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #20
That's the spirit Bacchus! You nailed it! Be more like Maduro. Work like Chavez! Catherina Apr 2013 #13
He was never charged in that, btw. joshcryer Apr 2013 #16
try as you might reorg Apr 2013 #18
I agree that Madruo did it to get a rise out of the opposition. joshcryer Apr 2013 #19
of course, reorg Apr 2013 #21

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
1. Lol, proving once again that the opposition has nothing to offer
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:16 PM
Apr 2013

except twisted ridicule, betrayal of the people and sheer vapidity.





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Radonski recently caused controversy by calling public sector workers “ass kissers” and by organizing what his campaign team termed a “panty-thon;” a public meeting with Venezuelan women where the candidate responded to their questions and concerns. Women's organizations were highly critical of the event, and particularly its name, which they denounced as being disrespectful to women.

“He (Capriles) is permanently trying to discredit women,” said member of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) and second vice-president of the National Assembly, Blanca Eekhout, who pointed out that Venezuelan women were “emblematic” for the revolutionary process and represent the “largest proportion of communal councils and missions”.

The vice-president also described the “panty-thon” as “shameful” and demanded respect on behalf of Venezuelan women.

“The women of Venezuela cannot be reduced to a fetish, to a thing, an object or an object for sexual use... we cannot be reduced to a pair of panties,” said Eekhout.

The “panty-thon” comes just a few weeks after Capriles also interrupted a speech in Carabobo state to make remarks about women's physical appearance.

“I'm impressed with how beautiful the women are,” said Capriles, "At times, you stop here and you have some girls in front and you start to look at them and you lose your concentration,” he said.

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http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/7246 (creative commons copyright)

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
2. Maduro gives the people bird poop
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:37 PM
Apr 2013



its quite a big joke in the Spanish speaking press. You better get in there and start vouching for Maduro's mental capacity.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. Correction- "in the rightwing press"
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:43 PM
Apr 2013

It must really eat you up that Maduro has such a well-deserved large lead in the polls and that the Venezuelan people don't fall for the kind of crap you pull here.

I'm happy it eats you up since we have absolutely nothing in common politically. Here's to many more productive years of successful Chavisimo as the people's revolution marches on despite your best pathetic efforts to put those lowlife little people back in their place.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
12. Such lovely colours they have eh?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:37 PM
Apr 2013

You gotta wonder about people who spend every waking hour trying to foist a sexist, ignorant, and incompetent person like Capriles on Venezuela.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
17. That was in response to Capriles being slandered as gay.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:33 PM
Apr 2013

Capriles did some stupid shit when he was trying to get rid of the "gay image" that the chavistas were projecting on him in 2012. He toned it down immediately thereafter.

Maduro says way worse shit and not a peep from our forum posters so concerned about bigotry.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
22. Both are bigots. Never denied it. I wish it wasn't so, but unfortunately it is.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 04:43 AM
Apr 2013

Either one of them can introduce Equal Rights law NOW, neither one of them will.

Either one of them right now have a damn good chance to push it through and cement themselves a place in History, too bad they wouldn't take the chance. Both could sell it as something Chavez would support and wanted to pass, and use it to make the opponent look like a bastard for not supporting it. Capriles could also use it to drum up his credentials as liberally inclined candidate.

Too damn bad neither one of them would use the opportunity to do something that really matters and do it now.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
23. I was just explaining why Capriles was being sexist.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 05:01 AM
Apr 2013

It was purposeful because the other side was being bigoted toward him so he had to use "masculino" to prove himself. He recently made a quip that he "had a girl in every port." Really shameful, but to me, it shows a deep insecurity about this issue (I think there is a decent chance he is gay and he's abstaining for the greater good of Venezuela because Venezuelans are too bigoted to elect a gay man).

Chavez did not necessarily support such a move because he had decree powers for years on end, constantly getting the reupped. He could've trivially signed off on them. The reason he didn't use his decree powers to do it is that there would've been reprecussions. When the chavistas were trying to pass a law that mandated that parties vote along party lines (that is, no one in a party could vote against the party), Chavez could've easily pushed it through, but he didn't because the backlash would've been enormous.

Oh, and one last thing, one of Chavez' final decrees (if he was even alive when he "signed" it) was that Maduro be granted decree powers over economic aspects of Venezuela (which is how he "legally" devalued the currency just days after Chavez officially died). If chavista fashion I'm sure he could use those powers to grant equality to all citizens of Venezuela. Just say it has an economic aspect to it (and in many ways equality of genders would).

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
3. Leopoldo Lopez?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:37 PM
Apr 2013

The guy banned from holding public office based in a 1975 anti-corruption law ratified by the Venezuelan Supreme Court? The guy asking the opposition to make violent protests in 2011?



Yep, looks like someone qualified to ask others to do "mental exams".

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
4. oh please, if they actually enforced the anticorruption law
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:41 PM
Apr 2013

no chavista could ever serve in office again. Lopez isn't the one talking to birds.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
6. Actually...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:54 PM
Apr 2013

"Though opposition figures have accused the Comptroller General of political bias and persecution, Venezuelan private newspaper Ultimas Noticias reported that a majority of those affected by the 2008 decision were not members of the Venezuelan opposition or its political parties."

http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/6042

Bacchus, get over it. Maduro will be the next president of Venezuela. And Lopez will continue to be the guy forbidden of serving in office for being too corrupted.

Have as much fun as you can with your adult criticism of Chávez, such as bird poo...

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
7. maybe I should be more "maduro" and talk to little birds
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:00 PM
Apr 2013

Maduro's victory will be the best thing that happens to the Venezuelan opposition. It won't be so good for Venezuela though.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
10. Have no idea why I should give more credit to the opinion of a guy...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:09 PM
Apr 2013

... who seems to oppose every single leftist president in Latin America (while having no problems in cheering for the right-wingers of the continent), and not to millions of Venezuelans who have given their solid approval for PSUV.

You'll see in the very near future how wrong you are... again. Not that I think you care, of course.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
14. I am looking forward to the comedic material Maduro will supply
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:49 PM
Apr 2013

Also, looking to discover an instance when Maduro hasn't lied.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
11. We totally agree on the impact the loss of another election will have on opposition. It's going to
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:11 PM
Apr 2013

finish them. Too many losses. Bosses in Washington don't like losers much. Bad investment, cut your losses.



 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
20. Election loss won't change anything
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013

Whether it is right or not the opinion will be that the 2011 price controls are, at present, destroying the VZ economy and that this will be clear for the next election.

I am not here to debate if that is true, but I am confident that is the position of many.


Time will tell.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
13. That's the spirit Bacchus! You nailed it! Be more like Maduro. Work like Chavez!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:40 PM
Apr 2013


Do the mathematics Hugo Chavez was the baddest
I gotta work Chavez...
In Caracas
El proceso va palante
In Chicago
El proceso va palante
In the South Bronx
El proceso va palante
It goes worldwide
El proceso va palante


Forward,
This movement ain't defeated,
La lucha sigue
Dentro de todos esa rebeldia existe
La CIA comete crimen
Igual las ideas viven
Aqui el pueblo decide
No lo que los medios dicen
Queren parar una cultura alternativa
Fijate desde el bronx hasta america latina
Capitalista van
Capitalista vienen
Buscan tus bienes
Queren hacer lo que queren
Ahora decimos NO!
No al imperialismo,
Al neoliberlismo
Los bancos,
Los ricos
Ni un millonario
Chavez fue solidaario
Ni Bush ni Obama llegaron a ayudarnos
No lo olvidamos,
Mas que Venezolano,
Esto cruza frontera
Hip hop bolivariano
America unida
Como creamos ese frente?
Solidaridad por todo el continente!

reorg

(3,317 posts)
18. try as you might
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:34 PM
Apr 2013

and write until your fingers are bleeding, this little episode will only benefit Maduro.

The story he told was quite charming. Although I believe he was sincere - I've had similar encounters with little birdies and they are clamouring every day outside my window to notify me when the birdfeed is empty - it was also calculated to enhance his image as a sensitive, compassionate person.

Naturally, pesky little snobs paraded as "candidates" of the opposition who are driving creme-colored BMWs and have oral sex in public car parks can only scoff at such displays of sentimentality. But ordinary people will listen and understand.

I'd much rather trust a person who is portrayed (by his enemies) like this:



than an apparent nutcase with this crazy stare:

AP Photo

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
19. I agree that Madruo did it to get a rise out of the opposition.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:45 PM
Apr 2013

And I agree that anyone playing into Madruo's insanity is just feeding the frenzy and doing precisely what the opposition wants. I'm surprised that Lopez was the one to call this out. It should've been María Corina (assuming they really had to do it; opposition supporters already do it on forums, public officials shouldn't do it). She's a firecracker and calls it like she sees it (once telling Chavez to his face that he was a thief, to Chavez' chuckling and blustering).

Maduro knows exactly what he's doing. He knows he can say bigoted, reprehensible bullshit, and people will give him a pass. So why not fuel the opposition?

reorg

(3,317 posts)
21. of course,
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:28 PM
Apr 2013

the minimum requirement for opposition spokespersons is that they were born into families of multimillionaires, have been sponsored by USAID, the Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung or similar outfits and last but not least have participated in a violent and malicious military coup.

Heartfelt message of support from Álvaro Uribe:


Mensaje del ex-presidente Uribe al pueblo veneco

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