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Related: About this forumVenezuela’s Opposition Leader Calls for Mental Exam for Maduro After “Bird” Comments
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=734418&CategoryId=10717CARACAS A leader of the Venezuelan opposition said Wednesday that ruling-party presidential candidate Nicolas Maduro should undergo a mental evaluation after saying that late head of state Hugo Chavez had appeared to him in the form of a little bird.
Someone who tells us ... that he is hallucinating, seeing a little bird and that that little bird is giving him instructions, obviously that requires that an evaluation be made of Mr. Nicolas Maduros mental equilibrium, Leopoldo Lopez told reporters.
Lopez, a member of the campaign of opposition presidential hopeful Henrique Capriles, thus expressed rejection of Maduros remarks made on Tuesday, when he said that while he was praying alone in a Catholic chapel in Chavezs native state of Barinas, the deceased president appeared to him as a tiny little bird.
Maduro on Wednesday reconfirmed what he had said and rejected the criticism against him, saying that the bourgeoisie does not respect his spirituality.
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Catherina
(35,568 posts)except twisted ridicule, betrayal of the people and sheer vapidity.
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Radonski recently caused controversy by calling public sector workers ass kissers and by organizing what his campaign team termed a panty-thon; a public meeting with Venezuelan women where the candidate responded to their questions and concerns. Women's organizations were highly critical of the event, and particularly its name, which they denounced as being disrespectful to women.
He (Capriles) is permanently trying to discredit women, said member of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) and second vice-president of the National Assembly, Blanca Eekhout, who pointed out that Venezuelan women were emblematic for the revolutionary process and represent the largest proportion of communal councils and missions.
The vice-president also described the panty-thon as shameful and demanded respect on behalf of Venezuelan women.
The women of Venezuela cannot be reduced to a fetish, to a thing, an object or an object for sexual use... we cannot be reduced to a pair of panties, said Eekhout.
The panty-thon comes just a few weeks after Capriles also interrupted a speech in Carabobo state to make remarks about women's physical appearance.
I'm impressed with how beautiful the women are, said Capriles, "At times, you stop here and you have some girls in front and you start to look at them and you lose your concentration, he said.
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http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/7246 (creative commons copyright)
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)its quite a big joke in the Spanish speaking press. You better get in there and start vouching for Maduro's mental capacity.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)It must really eat you up that Maduro has such a well-deserved large lead in the polls and that the Venezuelan people don't fall for the kind of crap you pull here.
I'm happy it eats you up since we have absolutely nothing in common politically. Here's to many more productive years of successful Chavisimo as the people's revolution marches on despite your best pathetic efforts to put those lowlife little people back in their place.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)You gotta wonder about people who spend every waking hour trying to foist a sexist, ignorant, and incompetent person like Capriles on Venezuela.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Capriles did some stupid shit when he was trying to get rid of the "gay image" that the chavistas were projecting on him in 2012. He toned it down immediately thereafter.
Maduro says way worse shit and not a peep from our forum posters so concerned about bigotry.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Either one of them can introduce Equal Rights law NOW, neither one of them will.
Either one of them right now have a damn good chance to push it through and cement themselves a place in History, too bad they wouldn't take the chance. Both could sell it as something Chavez would support and wanted to pass, and use it to make the opponent look like a bastard for not supporting it. Capriles could also use it to drum up his credentials as liberally inclined candidate.
Too damn bad neither one of them would use the opportunity to do something that really matters and do it now.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)It was purposeful because the other side was being bigoted toward him so he had to use "masculino" to prove himself. He recently made a quip that he "had a girl in every port." Really shameful, but to me, it shows a deep insecurity about this issue (I think there is a decent chance he is gay and he's abstaining for the greater good of Venezuela because Venezuelans are too bigoted to elect a gay man).
Chavez did not necessarily support such a move because he had decree powers for years on end, constantly getting the reupped. He could've trivially signed off on them. The reason he didn't use his decree powers to do it is that there would've been reprecussions. When the chavistas were trying to pass a law that mandated that parties vote along party lines (that is, no one in a party could vote against the party), Chavez could've easily pushed it through, but he didn't because the backlash would've been enormous.
Oh, and one last thing, one of Chavez' final decrees (if he was even alive when he "signed" it) was that Maduro be granted decree powers over economic aspects of Venezuela (which is how he "legally" devalued the currency just days after Chavez officially died). If chavista fashion I'm sure he could use those powers to grant equality to all citizens of Venezuela. Just say it has an economic aspect to it (and in many ways equality of genders would).
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)The guy banned from holding public office based in a 1975 anti-corruption law ratified by the Venezuelan Supreme Court? The guy asking the opposition to make violent protests in 2011?
Yep, looks like someone qualified to ask others to do "mental exams".
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)no chavista could ever serve in office again. Lopez isn't the one talking to birds.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)"Though opposition figures have accused the Comptroller General of political bias and persecution, Venezuelan private newspaper Ultimas Noticias reported that a majority of those affected by the 2008 decision were not members of the Venezuelan opposition or its political parties."
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/6042
Bacchus, get over it. Maduro will be the next president of Venezuela. And Lopez will continue to be the guy forbidden of serving in office for being too corrupted.
Have as much fun as you can with your adult criticism of Chávez, such as bird poo...
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Maduro's victory will be the best thing that happens to the Venezuelan opposition. It won't be so good for Venezuela though.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)... who seems to oppose every single leftist president in Latin America (while having no problems in cheering for the right-wingers of the continent), and not to millions of Venezuelans who have given their solid approval for PSUV.
You'll see in the very near future how wrong you are... again. Not that I think you care, of course.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Also, looking to discover an instance when Maduro hasn't lied.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)finish them. Too many losses. Bosses in Washington don't like losers much. Bad investment, cut your losses.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)Whether it is right or not the opinion will be that the 2011 price controls are, at present, destroying the VZ economy and that this will be clear for the next election.
I am not here to debate if that is true, but I am confident that is the position of many.
Time will tell.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Do the mathematics Hugo Chavez was the baddest
I gotta work Chavez...
In Caracas
El proceso va palante
In Chicago
El proceso va palante
In the South Bronx
El proceso va palante
It goes worldwide
El proceso va palante
Forward,
This movement ain't defeated,
La lucha sigue
Dentro de todos esa rebeldia existe
La CIA comete crimen
Igual las ideas viven
Aqui el pueblo decide
No lo que los medios dicen
Queren parar una cultura alternativa
Fijate desde el bronx hasta america latina
Capitalista van
Capitalista vienen
Buscan tus bienes
Queren hacer lo que queren
Ahora decimos NO!
No al imperialismo,
Al neoliberlismo
Los bancos,
Los ricos
Ni un millonario
Chavez fue solidaario
Ni Bush ni Obama llegaron a ayudarnos
No lo olvidamos,
Mas que Venezolano,
Esto cruza frontera
Hip hop bolivariano
America unida
Como creamos ese frente?
Solidaridad por todo el continente!
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)reorg
(3,317 posts)and write until your fingers are bleeding, this little episode will only benefit Maduro.
The story he told was quite charming. Although I believe he was sincere - I've had similar encounters with little birdies and they are clamouring every day outside my window to notify me when the birdfeed is empty - it was also calculated to enhance his image as a sensitive, compassionate person.
Naturally, pesky little snobs paraded as "candidates" of the opposition who are driving creme-colored BMWs and have oral sex in public car parks can only scoff at such displays of sentimentality. But ordinary people will listen and understand.
I'd much rather trust a person who is portrayed (by his enemies) like this:
than an apparent nutcase with this crazy stare:
AP Photo
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)And I agree that anyone playing into Madruo's insanity is just feeding the frenzy and doing precisely what the opposition wants. I'm surprised that Lopez was the one to call this out. It should've been María Corina (assuming they really had to do it; opposition supporters already do it on forums, public officials shouldn't do it). She's a firecracker and calls it like she sees it (once telling Chavez to his face that he was a thief, to Chavez' chuckling and blustering).
Maduro knows exactly what he's doing. He knows he can say bigoted, reprehensible bullshit, and people will give him a pass. So why not fuel the opposition?
reorg
(3,317 posts)the minimum requirement for opposition spokespersons is that they were born into families of multimillionaires, have been sponsored by USAID, the Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung or similar outfits and last but not least have participated in a violent and malicious military coup.
Heartfelt message of support from Álvaro Uribe:
Mensaje del ex-presidente Uribe al pueblo veneco