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LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:38 PM May 2016

Sanders brought more Oregon voters into the Democratic Party.

Yep! He brought in 7% fewer voters in Oregon.

2008 Primary
Obama: 375,311
Clinton: 259,782
Sub Total: 635,093

Write-In: 5,537
Grand Total: 640,630

2016 Primary
Sanders: 333,638
Clinton: 257,374
Sub Total: 591,012

Write-in: 10,634
Grand Total: 601,646


Sanders would like to think Oregon is a state that looks like the Democratic Party. Except it isn't. It deviates from the Democratic electorate by a factor of 42 with zero being New Jersey.
New Jersey's Democratic Primary Electorate
White: 57%
Black: 26%
Hisp/Lat: 11%
Asian/Other: 6%


Oregon's Electorate
White: 87%
Black: 1%
Hisp/Lat: 4%

Asian/Other: 7%


Sanders has won every state with 78% or more white population except for Iowa, Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

Clinton has won every state with 15% or more black population except for Michigan. New Jersey and District of Columbia are in that range.

Clinton has won every state with 19% or more Hispanic/Latino. New Mexico and California are in that range.
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Sanders brought more Oregon voters into the Democratic Party. (Original Post) LiberalFighter May 2016 OP
Please stop. BSS don't like facts that blow up their favorite memes redstateblues May 2016 #1
Senator Sanders wins the hispanic and the black male vote remember? SaschaHM May 2016 #2
In his dreams, he does. Doesn't that count? Koinos May 2016 #4
Then he needs more dreams. LiberalFighter May 2016 #13
Human growth and well-being require the practiced ability to distinguish fact from fiction. Koinos May 2016 #3
Sanders is no more than a con man now beachbumbob May 2016 #5
Usually, con artists want to acquire money or power. Koinos May 2016 #6
Well he certainly has destroyed his future in the Senate Democratic Caucus. George II May 2016 #8
He will start his own one-man caucus. Koinos May 2016 #10
Everytime they ask for money I remind them its BS or my money... Historic NY May 2016 #17
Good stuff! texstad79 May 2016 #7
We are going to crush Bernie in New Jersey! Walk away May 2016 #9
Heh. I know people from NJ NastyRiffraff May 2016 #20
I know most of the Bernie staffers in my county. Walk away May 2016 #21
K&R for facts. eom UtahLib May 2016 #11
Lesson learned in 2016 should lead to a stronger Democratic Party. We need to strengthen Thinkingabout May 2016 #12
You made me curious mercuryblues May 2016 #14
The last time I checked there have been only two states where turnout was higher in 2016. LiberalFighter May 2016 #15
Just for mercuryblues May 2016 #18
Sanders doesn't expect people to check his statements. LiberalFighter May 2016 #19
Haha.. sanders brought in less voters than President Obama! Which is the real Cha May 2016 #16

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
3. Human growth and well-being require the practiced ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

However, demagogues profit from manipulating crowds by suppressing their ability to distinguish fact from fiction.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
6. Usually, con artists want to acquire money or power.
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

This one wants to destroy things. His aim is political nihilism.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
10. He will start his own one-man caucus.
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:34 PM
May 2016

On a bad hair day, he might even throw himself under the new bus.

I think he is and will continue to be a very lonely man.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
9. We are going to crush Bernie in New Jersey!
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:32 PM
May 2016

And the Bernie Bros and their friends the "Chair Throwing" Nader Nurses should definitely go to California instead because we don't like to be threatened here in the "Garden State".

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
21. I know most of the Bernie staffers in my county.
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:36 PM
May 2016

They are just ex Obama or Clinton workers who couldn't get work with Hillary so they jumped on the Bernie train. They are not the type to encourage the typical Bernie supporter's bullying behavior. So if anything goes on they will be from out of state.

I am sure that Bernie has already given up on New Jersey.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
12. Lesson learned in 2016 should lead to a stronger Democratic Party. We need to strengthen
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

Our numbers and continue to work hard to get new voters and take back the positions we held for many years.

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
14. You made me curious
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

has he been bringing in new voters? Not in the States I checked out. Earth to Bernie, just because they show up at your rallies, it doesn't mean they are voting.

So I checked out TX, CT, SC, NY and VT

TX
2008
Clinton: 1,462,734
Obama: 1,362,476

2016
Clinton: 935,425
Sanders: 475,561


CT
2008
Clinton:165,426
Obama:179,742

2016
Clinton: 170,080
Sanders: 152,415

SC
2008
Clinton: 141,217
Obama: 295,214

2016
Clinton: 271,514
sanders: 95,977

VT
2008
Clinton: 59,806
Obama: 91,901

2016
Clinton: 18,333
Sanders: 115,865

NY2008
Clinton: 1,068,496
Obama: 751,019

2016
Clinton: 1,133,980
Sanders: 820,056

OH
2008
Clinton:1,259,620
Obama:1,055,769

2012
Clinton: 696,681
Sanders: 535,395

LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
15. The last time I checked there have been only two states where turnout was higher in 2016.
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

Illinois and Michigan.

Illinois was about 650 votes if I recall.

Michigan can't really use because Obama and other Democrats took their name off the ballot in 2008.

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
18. Just for
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
May 2016

shits and giggles, I looked up the 2012 senate race results.

Sanders: 207,848
MacGovern: 72,898

total votes: 280,746

Presidential primary 2008 was a total of 151,707

presidential primary 2016 total of 134,198

17,509 less than 08 vote totals and 146,548 less votes than his 2012 senate campaign.

This is his home state, where are those new voters he is bringing in?

Cha

(296,844 posts)
16. Haha.. sanders brought in less voters than President Obama! Which is the real
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

revolution.. BS was late.

Thank you, LiberalFighter!

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