Whoa. Even the media won't go there; so glad he did!

[babylonsister]

[Dawson Leery]

1. The hard right has a history of LYING.

It is about time a Democratic President called them on it.

[graham4anything]

2. This is a long term victory in the war, on a day where a battle was lost

The defeat of the national reciprocity amendment is a major defeat for the NRA.
They tried a poison pen amendment and it failed big time.

That would have weakened or obliterated the states that had good gun control had it taken place.

They tried to pull a fast one.

[babylonsister]

6. So

now this is good news? Seriously, I'm glad you're talking.

Thanks for educating me. I am not familiar with the particulars of what was won/lost, all I know about are the basics, and the President's reaction.

And now I need to read all about the national reciprocity amendment.

[graham4anything]

7. Wars have battles. The Battle of Normandy in WW2 had many bad days before total victory occured

There were battles lost
There was a big battle won.

Unfortunately hundreds, thousands will die.

Why can't the NRA just give it up now?
But their time is ending.
Like a panademic. It takes a while for a vaccine to be made, and distributed.

President Obama's speech today was a battle cry. I never heard of any national leader speak out so strongly agaisnt the NRA or any super pac like this.

The beginning of the end is coming.

But unfortunately many people will still die and be wounded.

The NRA and the gun folk know this, which is why they are trying so hard to hold on.
But we will win.

[Voice for Peace]

9. Thanks for this great reminder

It applies to all of our battles, political social personal.
Wars are made up of many battles and many get lost.
Doesn't mean the war is lost.

[lastlib]

15. Indeed. Mark it down. WE WILL WIN.

Sadly, more children, and mothers, and fathers will die before we bury the NRA in the dustbin of history. But we WILL win!!

[Boomerproud]

19. I pray you are right G4A.

I don't understand how the NRA leadership can look anyone in the eye. I also hope we win this war in our lifetimes.

[IrishAyes]

34. President Obama, as always, is a lot nicer than me

I always thought that anyone allowed to buy a gun should be forced to listen to hours of 911 recordings where people called to report accidental, deadly shootings, especially of/by children. They should have to sit there and listen to some kid screaming he just shot his little brother, until the lesson sinks in. Then maybe they wouldn't even buy a gun after that. At the very least they deserve to have nightmares.

[freshwest]

3. He has to get the word out anyway he can. Media won't even allow the voice of the POTUS on the air.

Can you imagine them giving Obama or anyone speaking against the media owners equal time with LePew, Jones or Pratt?

They gave them free air time to spout the lies and are a major part of why people continue to call their politicans to defeat the bills. The NRA have been consistent fighters against gun control, not single event ones.

The media distracts, detracts and misinforms daily on every venue to shut us down.

[graham4anything]

8. The worst was Meet the Press putting LaP. on air as if he should have that voice.

[freshwest]

53. I remember that - so many other worthy voices to give a platform to - shows who owns 'em.

[mehrrh]

50. media facilitators

The media would rather keep the issues roiling than present the truths. They give the NRA and LaPierre air time, not challenging their twisted version of facts -- the media did not counter their lies about what was written in the bill.
I was glad to see the president actually use the word "lies" in his furious response to the defeat of the bill.
(Fox News never even covered the message, but that comes as no surprise.)
The media should be ashamed, they fail us time and time again.

[freshwest]

54. +1,000

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. Exactly. Hopefully, this ain't over! nt

[Cha]

5. thanks babylonsistah!

[Cha]

10. Tweet pic of Mark Barden and VP Biden hugging over actions of Senate..

TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary

Mark Barden lost his son Daniel at Sandy Hook; today VP Biden said sorry for the actions of the Senate's NRA puppets. https://twitter.com/TheObamaDiary/status/324653081801412610/photo/1

[freshwest]

22. Humanity versus the merchants of death. One step at a time. Reid voted to allow a vote next time.

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And there will be a next time, and a time after that. We have only begun the road back to sanity after years:

[Cha]

25. I believe that too, freshwest. This is not

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over.

[tblue]

44. I've never seen him this pissed.

I just hope he doesn't give up.

[babylonsister]

17. Wrong thread. nt

[cliffordu]

18. Thread hijack fail.

Ads hole

[Cha]

26. This is a thread about the defeat of the Gun Law that the Parents

of the Sandy Hook Victims and Survivors of Gun Violence Wanted Passed.

There's many threads where you can post about SS.. this isn't one of them.

[sheshe2]

36. I missed the comment, Cha.

Another attempt at an SS, hijacking?

Thanks for the pic you posted with Biden's hug. Powerful!

[Cha]

39. You're welcome she. So, is this one..

President Obama embraces Nicole Hockley, who lost a son in the Sandy Hook shootings, after he delivered a statement on the Senate’s failure to pass a measure to expanded gun background checkshttp://theobamadiary.com/

[sheshe2]

40. OMG!

[Cha]

41. ..

sorry, I forgot to credit who it was before but it's fixed now.

Nicole Hockley who lost her son, Dylan. is being embraced by PBO

[tblue]

45. Her eyes.

Oh my gosh. Who could say no to those eyes?

[SemperEadem]

33. wow.. can't take you anywhere...

[CapnSteve]

12. Those damn senators need to walk by pictures of those killed in Sandy Hook everyday...

...until we vote them out in 2014!

I feel like I am talking to my teenagers (only they actually listen!): actions have consequences.

[firenewt]

27. Wonder if we can by our members of congress back? Match the NRA/gun industry blood money +

10%. Apparently there is nothing we can appeal to other than money - right or wrong don't mean shit.

[ellennelle]

13. the truth is going further still

i appreciate that he spoke so forcefully about this, but he really needs to go full throttle and tell the whole truth.

this is not about the senators being worried about gun owners; in fact, this defies logic, given he just noted that 90% of americans wanted this bill to pass.

no no; these senators are not afraid of the voters, and they're not afraid of gun owners; they're afraid of the NRA, which represents gun manufacturers, the real culprits in all this.

when he or anyone in congress shows the guts to say that, then the world will sit up and take notice.

don't hold your breath.

[Brigid]

31. We've been saying this around DU for a while now.

I have to smile whenever I run across an op-ed piece -- on CNN's site, say -- asserting this as if it's something new. It's quite clear that these days the NRA is nothing more than a lobbying organization for the gun manufacturers.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

42. And gun mfrs. are not liable for deaths or injuries caused by their products

[snort]

52. Its a unique product.

It is supposed to maim and kill. Nice way to make a living.

[daybranch]

48. Actually the senators are on the take.

If you mean they are afraid of losing campaign contributions from the NRA , you are correct. As for the gun manufacturers, I suspect many would go along with reasonable controls such as gun locks, and gun registration, since it woulld not have a significant effect on their sales in total and the willingness to appear a good citizen might even help their business. No it is not the Smith & Wessons or the Colt companies but rather the makers of overpriced large capacity magazines and bump fire stocks who appeal to the killer ego who would object. We need to fight these magazine and stock manufacturers and the NRA. By the way the largest corporate contributor to the NRA is a manufacturer of high capacity magazines.

[OnlinePoker]

14. I know this is a serious subject, but...

...the first thing I thought about when I saw this picture is that Joe Biden is channeling his inner grumpy cat.

You may now resume the discussion.

[OneGrassRoot]

20. ...

True!

[OneGrassRoot]

24. Here ya go...

[Brigid]

32. Yes, there is quite a resemblance.

Grumpy Cat throws her support behind gun control.

[socialindependocrat]

46. Looks quite a bit like Jeff Dunham's Walter (puppet) n/t

[IrishAyes]

35. I wouldn't personally...

... want to yank his chain.

[NastyRiffraff]

47. Actually I thought Biden looked like..

he was about to cry, in that photo and the one with Mark Barden.

[Indyfan53]

16. Glad he told the truth here!

[hvn_nbr_2]

21. "EVEN" the media won't go there?

I'd say there was never a snowball's chance you-know-where that CorpoPravda would go there.

[freshwest]

23. +1

[Hekate]

28. Obama called them all out: GOP, NRA, the whole murdering cowardly bunch. GOTV 2014!

He called them out for the liars they are. He called them out by the political party they are in.

I don't want to read any more shit about primarying Democrats who aren't pure enough or Socialist enough or Green enough, unless they voted against this bill. No more. If the Left lets the Congress go even more to the Right than it already is, we will have only ourselves to blame.

[babylonsister]

38. He sure did. It was a thing of beauty. And for all

those clowns who diss him, they are happily missing on this thread. Thank you!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

43. nice point!

[kurtzapril4]

49. I dis him all the time.

I'm here. President OBama made a great speech. Credit where credit is due.

[KT2000]

29. it was a powerful speech

he expressed his anger very well - and likely represented 90% of the population.

[babylonsister]

30. Exactly. We know what the people who voted against it were thinking,

and it wasn't about their constituents.

[sheshe2]

37. Kicked and Recommending!

Thanks babylonsister.

[truebluegreen]

51. "Even" the media?

The pathetic media are the last people who will Go There. Their jobs depend on them not going there. Dog forbid they should actually practice journalism, instead of propping up the status quo and the corporate power structure.