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Related: About this forumSo she's gone, eh?
Sic transit gloria. I often wondered how I'd feel at this moment. The reality is that, while I can't mourn her, given the terrible things she did to my community and my profession, I'm not moved to dance on her grave either. She has gone. That's it for me.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,866 posts)and nothing's gonna bring her back ...
It is not nice to speak ill of the dead so I shall not say a word.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)is people waiting to piss on her grave.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,203 posts)Am not looking forward to the Tory campaign hoopla, aka memorials and funeral, during the next days.
non sociopath skin
(4,972 posts)Thatcher was no Queen Mum, no Princess Di, no Winston Churchill, but a deeply divisive "conviction politician" whom two fifths supported and many of the other three fifths loathed as no politician of modern times has been loathed before or since (though, admittedly, Blair did try very hard ...).
Burying her at public expense and with full telly coverage may not play well everywhere during a local election campaign.
On a lighter note, she didn't half rain on Nick Clegg's parade today, did she?
The Skin
fedsron2us
(2,863 posts)both in her achievements and her failings. In truth she was less significant as a 20th Century political figure than Lloyd George, Attlee and Churchill all of whom surpassed her either in ability or as leaders. Nor do I think was she a greater Tory Prime Minister than Stanley Baldwin who also won a number of elections and had to negotiate many obstacles from the Great Depression to the royal abdication. Baldwin's achievements in improving public housing, helping regenerate British industry in the 1930s and ensuring fascism never got off the ground in Britain in the 1930s were all greater than anything Thatcher managed in her term of office.
Above all people should note that the 'Lady's Not For Turning' slogan was one of the greatest political con tricks of all time. the reality was that Thatcher did a complete U Turn on economic policy in the mid 1980s when she dropped monetarism and adopted the city wide boy, derivative driven, ponzi credit model that has caused two massive speculative booms and busts in the space of little more than 25 years. When your bank goes bust, your pension evaporates. your job gets outsourced, your privatized energy bill goes through the roof, your rail season ticket increases more than inflation and you can not find an NHS dentist you can thank Maggie for setting those processes in motion.
T_i_B
(14,736 posts)...much of the internet will be best avoided for the flame wars between Thatcher devotees and those who despise her and all that she stood for.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,266 posts)which is what Princess Di got (the BBC also compared it to the Queen Mother, who did lie in state). It seems a bit brown-nosing, to me. I can't find it in myself to cheer (as I did when she was forced to resign), but there was too much damage she did, knowing it hurt people, for her to deserve an honour like that.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...bury the old hag and move on..you know, like she did to the Unions and industry in her time..
steve2470
(37,457 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,203 posts)Here richly, with ridiculous display,
The Politician's corpse was laid away.
While all of her acquaintance sneered and slanged,
I wept, for I had longed to see her hanged.
LeftishBrit
(41,203 posts)(With many apologies to Alfred Hayes and the subject of his song, Joe Hill,, neither of whom would have cared for Thatcher!)
I dreamt that Thatcher stood right here,
Alive as you and me.
I said, I heard that you were dead!
I never died, said she.
As Osborne cuts the welfare state
And cuts rich peoples tax.
As Hunt sells off the NHS,
You see me with my axe!
Whenever you reward success
By punishing the poor;
When Duncan-Smith strikes at the sick,
You see me even more!
In Cyprus, Greece and Portugal,
In Europe far and wide,
Poor people groan beneath the cuts.
You see I havent died!
Obama once had liberal plans.
The Congress told him, No!
So old age pensions must go down!;
You see Ill never go!
From Blair and Bush to Cameron;
From London to D.C.;
Where governments still crush the poor,
Youll there find Maggie T.!