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TexasTowelie

(112,113 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 05:40 PM Apr 2013

Student trying to start white student group at Tarrant County College

FORT WORTH -- A 57-year-old Tarrant County College student is gathering signatures supporting the formation of a white student group that would allow people to embrace their heritage while also addressing issues such as affirmative action and the creation of a White History Month.

Richard Railey, who is studying information technology at TCC, has been trying to generate support for the White Student Union of Tarrant County. He said white students don't have a group of their own, but groups have been formed around other races, ethnicity or interests.

Railey also is questioning TCC's Men of Color Mentoring Program, which he says discriminates against white men and all women. That program aims to help struggling African-American and Hispanic male students succeed by offering several resources, including personal mentors and specialized tutoring.

He has a flyer that questions why men of color are a focus and questions why white students appear to be left out of the program. Railey said he has filed a complaint with the federal government on those grounds.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/04/07/4756314/student-trying-to-start-white.html#storylink=cpy

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Student trying to start white student group at Tarrant County College (Original Post) TexasTowelie Apr 2013 OP
You know, this bothers me not... Bennyboy Apr 2013 #1
As a black/native American female, I agree with you TxDemChem Apr 2013 #4
My Mexican husband TxDemChem Apr 2013 #5
Stuff like this always makes me shake my head in pity. Scootaloo Apr 2013 #2
He's 57 years old. LeftInTX Apr 2013 #3
 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
1. You know, this bothers me not...
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 05:43 PM
Apr 2013

he has every right to do this IMO. No matter the issue we have to have people questioning it or we get, well, what we got. I don't agree but I see where he has a right to do whatever he wants as long as he doesn't spread hate or crime...

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
4. As a black/native American female, I agree with you
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:03 PM
Apr 2013

We all should have the right to peacefully organize ourselves into groups, even based solely on race. However, I personally hope that he finds some people his age. As stated below, the "Grumpy Old White Man Tea Party" is a good choice. He'll fail anyway. Screw race, I'm all about dems, whatever their color.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Stuff like this always makes me shake my head in pity.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:41 PM
Apr 2013

It displays a gross ignorance not just of the world around them, but of their own selves as well.

First off, "white" needs definition. It's a bad classification. Much like "Hispanic" or "Jewish," it's not so much a valid ethnic classification, as a container for several ethnicities. Though the Hispanic "container" and the Jewish "container" are both based on cultural features common to those ethnicities - language and religion, respectively - the "white" container is based on a feature that really has no cultural bearing whatsoever - skin tone.

Which brings us to the next question; how dark do you go before you are no longer "white"? I've known people who classify themselves as "black" who are in fact lighter-skinned than people who consider themselves "white." What's the cutoff point? Is there a cutoff point? If the container of "white" is based on the melanin content of a person's skin cells - and it clearly is - then surely there's some sort of limiting factor, right?

Which brings us to ancestry. Assuming we play fair and leave the door open for a variety of skin tones, should the question be drawn by "white" ancestry? if so, shouldn't many important figures generally considered "nonwhite" be included? Like oh.. .Barack Obama, who is about as close to 50/50 Afro-European as it's possible to get? or Martin Luther King, Jr.? That family tree surely took a detour to Western Europe at some point. Osceola, the Seminole chief who was almost certainly more African than Indian and more "white" than either? pretty clearly if "White heritage" includes everyone with "white" ancestry, that history book is probably going to look pretty darn brown.

So is it a question of European culture or European ethnicity? Well again, that's a fuzzy place; How does one define "Europe?" It's a very recent invention itself, and like "white" was so devised mainly as a way to separate Europe from "everyone else." Europe very distinctly lacks any sort of unifying culture, and is populated by very many ethnicities and languages and histories. So if we're trying to equate "white" with "European" we still fail, because there is pretty much nothing in common between a "white" Irish person and an equally "white" Finn, who both have just as little in common with a "dark white" Sicilian or a "reddish white" Bavarian.

Also if we try to shoehorn "white" into meaning "European," that does actually leave several white groups out; iranians tend to class themselves as "whites" and do in fact have linguistic and cultural commonalities there. There's also the people of the Caucasus - Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and the Kurds - this is where the term "Caucasian" comes from, right? There's also a lot of Siberian and steppe people who are "white" by the general definition.

if we're going purely by genetics, then of course we have to include the Central Asian nations, the Arab world, and most of North Africa as "white" too...

Bottom line, when people talk about "white heritage," just roll your eyes, they have no goddamned idea what they're talking about. And a "white history month" is redundant - hell, black history month is mostly about people with "white" ancestry interacting with a white world. It's still white history, just given the perspective of people whose skin is too dark to be considered "white" by standards of the United States (but not Brazil, interestingly...)

LeftInTX

(25,253 posts)
3. He's 57 years old.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:45 AM
Apr 2013

Maybe he should have a White Grumpy Old Men group or just go to local Tea Party meetings.

I have nothing against older students, but I just don't think the Young Republicans will be flocking to this one.

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