North Carolina
Related: About this forumI have two ideas concerning fracking North Carolina, repeal of the state's environmental laws,
and the attacks on clean energy jobs in North Carolina. One is to physically go out and get signatures for my petition for the state to have a full health impact study before fracking can begin. The other is to have a take your trash to the legislature day whereby people take bags of trash and pile them up on the steps of the legislature for attention in protest (we can later remove them when we go home). What do any of you think on these proposals?
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)You only have to look at Pennsylvania, North Dakota, West Virginia, and Ohio.
Also Look at the list of the harmed..
http://pennsylvaniaallianceforcleanwaterandair.wordpress.com/the-list/
mmonk
(52,589 posts)My point is to slow the process while showing the disregard for the health and well being of North Carolinians they are showing. Influence through information takes awhile but is the only choice we are given due to a gerrymandered political system. We have to convince voters on the other side if we stand a chance at stopping it.
supernova
(39,345 posts)devious. public education is good and the ultimate long-term goal, but it's not the interim solution to stop the fracking industry in its tracks.
Fracking company reps often prey on homeowners not understanding contracts or mineral rights. Esp in NC most people DO NOT OWN their own mineral rights. This is a dead giveaway between the county gov't, or the MR owner (often a housing developer) and the fracking company. The homeowner is out of it. In NC you don't own your mineral rights unless you have 60+ acres.
Company reps often promise big payouts IN THE UNSPECIFIED FUTURE, for permission to drill on your property. Less all expenses, and so forth. heh. For their permission, most landowners get pennies and contaminated groundwater. Many of these people are on wells. The ground is so torn up from heavy equipment it isn't fit for crops or livestock.
Because this is an immediate concern, I say we turn the tables on the fracking companies. This can be accomplished a couple of ways that I've thought of. Both tactics involve homeowners actively engaging fracking company reps where they are and when they arrive on their home property:
1) Spread the news far and wide just like through OFA, neighborhood by neighborhood, that the fracking industry is a HUGE FINANCIAL BUBBLE. And it is. Here are two big articles on the subject:
Rolling Stone - The Big Fracking Bubble: The Scam Behind the Gas Boom.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-big-fracking-bubble-the-scam-behind-the-gas-boom-20120301.
Salon - Fracking: The Next Bubble
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/01/fracking_the_next_bubble_partner/
Similar articles in counterpunch, alternet, truthout, etc. Search term "Fracking Financial Bubble"
IOW, make your neighbors understand that even if they support drilling and would like to participate, they are MORE LIKELY TO LOSE THEIR SHIRTS THIER HOMES AND LIVELYHOODS than see any profits. I learned two major things from these articles:
1) Aubry McClenon is a scam artist. Not much else. And he clearly enjoys enriching himself by ruining others.
2) Shale oil wells are short term producers. They aren't long termers. So the companies are FORCED to continually find new wells to keep up. They will be there and gone in very short order. You are left holding the bag. Literally.
Arm your neighbors with this info and let them BADGER company reps about the financial state of their company. Say you want to see financial reports from the last ten years, In fact, say that they want to meat with AM PERSONALLY. Of course, he won't want to do that. But that's the point. May company reps aware that NC IS A SNAKE PIT, not their personal playground.
#2) If people don't want to go toe to toe over the financials and the health of the industry, here's a novel idea: Teach them to ask for $20 million, UP FRONT for their property. Or whatever ridiculous amount strikes your fancy. Make NC prohibitively expensive.
The industry is already in trouble, at least we would teach people to get paid first. And not be victims later.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)kep308
(1 post)I will participate. I don't want to live in a Fracklandia but NC is my home, my whole family lives here, it's not so easy for me to pack up and move and am I going to live in a place where the water ignites and is loaded with carcinogens?
mmonk
(52,589 posts)People need to start gelling into opposition groups soon.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)control of Asheville's water supply? First thought that came to my mind was that they need it for fracking. They're going to truck that water around to the different fracking sites.
Honestly hadn't thought of that.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)sustainability and they showed a photo of tanker trucks bringing water to the fracking site. It takes 22 of them per well.or over a million gallons of water. I've seen articles on how NC is running short on water resources or will be in the future and it made me think of it.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)I think the whole process of trying this here is folly based on an ideology to be against clean energy (drill baby drill).