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likesmountains 52

(4,093 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:18 PM Jun 2020

Romanoff or Hickenlooper?

Can anyone advise me before I vote in the primary? I am in the SW corner of the state and get only New Mexico news. I am trying to follow the candidates, and know that Hickenlooper has some ethics problems, but can Romanoff beat Gardner? That is my main objective!

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Romanoff or Hickenlooper? (Original Post) likesmountains 52 Jun 2020 OP
Any Democrat will beat Gardner randr Jun 2020 #1
Romanoff DavidDvorkin Jun 2020 #2
Good question, I'm looking for the answer myself. cos dem Jun 2020 #3
Romanoff will absolutely beat Cory Gardner. kag Jun 2020 #9
Hickenlooper is the choice of establishment Colorado and national Dems. generalbetrayus Jun 2020 #12
I'm still going with Hickenlooper Mountain Mule Jun 2020 #4
The optics are terrible CloudWatcher Jun 2020 #7
Hick. brokephibroke Jun 2020 #5
You can see my comment below, but this is bullshit. kag Jun 2020 #10
Romanoff! CloudWatcher Jun 2020 #6
Romanoff! kag Jun 2020 #8
Romanoff, PLEASE! generalbetrayus Jun 2020 #11
Romanoff-D guide to defeating Gardner-R in the 11/2020 general election based on Congressional Dist. nkpolitics1212 Jun 2020 #13
Thank you all! likesmountains 52 Jun 2020 #14
Romanoff eleny Jun 2020 #15
Harder locks Jun 2020 #16
Turned in my vote for Romanoff yesterday! RobertDevereaux Jun 2020 #17

DavidDvorkin

(19,406 posts)
2. Romanoff
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:37 PM
Jun 2020

I'm not optimistic about his chance of winning the nomination, but he's definitely my choice.

Any Democrat will beat Gardner.

cos dem

(895 posts)
3. Good question, I'm looking for the answer myself.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:51 PM
Jun 2020

It seems that Hickenlooper has more cross-over appeal in this purple state. Before recent events, I'd be worried that Romanoff might turn off more moderate voters. Now, I'm guessing (hoping) that we have enough tailwinds to carry either one.

I don't know exactly what the ethics issues are with Hickenlooper. It does strike me as a bit of opportunism by Republicans up to their usual dirty tricks.

An argument in Romanoff's favor is he seems to be the choice of establishment Dems in the state. I'm kind of leaning that way, but really need to think about it before I commit. Most important is defeating the odious Cory Gardner (ugh). All else is secondary.

kag

(4,076 posts)
9. Romanoff will absolutely beat Cory Gardner.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:53 PM
Jun 2020

I would say that Romanoff is more the choice of "high information" dems in Colorado rather than "establishment" dems. Old timers like me have watched the oil and gas Dems in this state push Andrew Romanoff to the margins for years, and it is SO frustrating.

Now that Hick has stepped in it big time, I think Andrew is the ONLY winning choice.

My two cents, of course.

generalbetrayus

(506 posts)
12. Hickenlooper is the choice of establishment Colorado and national Dems.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:47 AM
Jun 2020

The DNC even got Stacey Abrams to endorse Hickenlooper! That quickly got her off my list of possible VP candidates I could support
.

CloudWatcher

(1,831 posts)
7. The optics are terrible
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jun 2020

Hick is damaged goods and did himself no favors the way he's responded to the ethics charges. I vastly prefer Romanoff.

kag

(4,076 posts)
10. You can see my comment below, but this is bullshit.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jun 2020

In 2010 the Dem party closed ranks behind Bennett because Romanoff wouldn't play ball with the oil and gas lobby. They got Obama to endorse Bennett in the primary.

Then in 2016, the year of Trump, Romanoff took on Mike Coffman in a thankless race and losing year for Dems, for a seat that Jason Crow is going to have a hell of a time hanging on to because it was Red for years before 2018.

These are the only two races Romanoff has "lost" and in both cases the Dem party was working against him. I'm a Democrat, but the CO party bosses piss me off royally.

Romanoff can beat Gardner. I'm not sure Hick can.

CloudWatcher

(1,831 posts)
6. Romanoff!
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:00 PM
Jun 2020

He wants the job. He keeps winning in debates and the caucus polls. I think he's much better than Hick.

kag

(4,076 posts)
8. Romanoff!
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:48 PM
Jun 2020

To address the above comment that "Romanoff keeps losing" the only reason for that is maddening. And that is that the Democratic party in Colorado has closed ranks behind oil and gas people for DECADES! Romanoff lost to Bennett in the primary in 2010 because the party got Obama to come out for Bennett in the primary. One of the few things for which I will never forgive Obama.

Romanoff is a TRUE liberal democrat. He opposes oil and gas companies, he's excellent on women's issues (my pet issues), and he knows how to work with people.

To top it all off Hick just got his wrist slapped with an ethics violations of all things. The last thing we need in the U.S. Senate is another corporate Dem like Bennett.

PLEASE vote for Romanoff!

generalbetrayus

(506 posts)
11. Romanoff, PLEASE!
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:41 AM
Jun 2020

Cory Gardner won in 2014 because Mark Udall ran his campaign like he really didn't want to win, but the race was still close. So far, Chickenpooper is running the same kind of campaign, while Romanoff is running a passionate campaign with a very progressive platform. Chickenpooper is a stooge of the oil and gas industry. If you want to breathe clean air in Colorado in your lifetime, vote for Romanoff in the primary.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
13. Romanoff-D guide to defeating Gardner-R in the 11/2020 general election based on Congressional Dist.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 03:27 AM
Jun 2020

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:51 AM - Edit history (1)

CO-1 Romanoff-D 75
CO-2 Romanoff-D 65/140
CO-3 Romanoff-D 45/185
CO-4 Romanoff-D 40/225
CO-5 Romanoff-D 40/265
CO-6 Romanoff-D 55/320
CO-7 Romanoff-D 60/380
Statewide- Romanoff-D 54 percent.

This is how much Romanoff-D needs to perform in each CO Congressional Districts.

If Romanoff-D had defeated Bennet-D in the 2010 Democratic Primary.- Could Romanoff-D have defeated Buck-R in the General Election?
Romanoff-D loss to Coffman-R in the 2014 US House Election in CO-6cd was due to the fact 2014 was a Republican wave election year.



locks

(2,012 posts)
16. Harder
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jun 2020

than I thought it would be. I've followed both of them closely through their political careers and I'm thankful we have good Democrats that will do a great job as compared to Gardner. But I don't like them attacking each other. I don't think that's helpful and just want to know what they will get done when they're elected.

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