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WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:11 AM Apr 2013

So I'm watching this new Sci Fi channel series called Defiance.

They want us to believe that in less than 30 years, seven new alien races have set down roots after a huge invasion that went sour. In this short span of time, A rockies size mountain sprung up around St. Louis, which I gather, will be the central stomping grounds for all these races.

To make it really plausible, as far as anything on SciFy can be plausible, they should have set it about 200 years in the future.

Anyway, it's just a frontier town populated with a bunch of alien races that magically came to earth, decimated the globe and then set up jumbled settlements in burned out cities.

Oh and I forgot to mention all the new kinds of animals that were suppose to pop up in 30-35 years out of god know were.

Sloppy.

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So I'm watching this new Sci Fi channel series called Defiance. (Original Post) WCGreen Apr 2013 OP
I haven't watched the Sci Fi channel in months. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #1
not for this.... WCGreen Apr 2013 #2
Ah but were they wearing guns and smoking ? olddots Apr 2013 #3
From what I gathered, the aliens were supposed to have terraformed the Earth Silver Gaia Apr 2013 #4
I get that but how in the hell could they destroy earths society structure, co mingle the 8 or WCGreen Apr 2013 #6
I'm guessing that's one of the questions Silver Gaia Apr 2013 #7
You forgot... it's not Sci Fi anymore... it's SyFy channel... Jasana Apr 2013 #5
That's what you get for watching the SyFy channel! yoyossarian Apr 2013 #8
I like the SyFy Channel Xyzse Apr 2013 #9
I really liked Alphas... WCGreen Apr 2013 #11
That too! Xyzse Apr 2013 #12
Canned.... WCGreen Apr 2013 #13
Wha? After a cliffhanger like that? Xyzse Apr 2013 #14
I liked the dynamics... WCGreen Apr 2013 #15
I guess. I don't know, it is tons better than any sort of ridiculous B movie they produce. Xyzse Apr 2013 #16
It was the most adult thing they had on their schedule board... WCGreen Apr 2013 #17
True... I'd say Lost Girl is a bit more "adult" Xyzse Apr 2013 #18
I watched it too. Scruffy Rumbler Apr 2013 #10
Well, i like it!! BEEN A SCIENCE FICTION FAN FOREVER. trueblue2007 Apr 2013 #19
Falling Skyes and Revolution seem to have had a more full backstory.... WCGreen Apr 2013 #20
Not on the siffy channel? You don't say?! (nt) harmonicon Apr 2013 #21
Hey thanks, will delete my DVR of it.....saw just a snippet or two and thought, not worth my time. a kennedy Apr 2013 #22
 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
3. Ah but were they wearing guns and smoking ?
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:37 AM
Apr 2013

I love sci fi wish there was some on TV
have you seen Serenity think it's on the scifi channel =real stinker.

there was the Jay Leno movie on one channel tonight =really 1987 =really bad

Silver Gaia

(4,541 posts)
4. From what I gathered, the aliens were supposed to have terraformed the Earth
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 03:03 AM
Apr 2013

with their advanced tech, and they brought all kinds of their own native species, and/or genetic material for them, with them. I gathered that they were kinda looking for a new place to settle down.

I'm not saying it was fabulous TV or anything, but they did offer some explanations for what we saw. Hey, it's sci-fi!

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
6. I get that but how in the hell could they destroy earths society structure, co mingle the 8 or
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 03:40 AM
Apr 2013

so aliens sharing the earth, rebuild through terra forma and get it all done in 30 years...

Silver Gaia

(4,541 posts)
7. I'm guessing that's one of the questions
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 04:49 AM
Apr 2013

they want you to watch the show to find out. I think the other alien species already knew one another, though (seems to me they must have arrived together, for whatever reason - maybe their solar system was dying or something), so it was just a matter of destroying our infrastructure, along the rest of the planet as we know it, and then taking over. That's what the conquering force usually does in any case, right? They take over. Obviously there are pockets of resistance, hence "Defiance," but they seem to have conquered Earth with superior tech, and that was probably pretty easy for them. Except for the defiant ones, of course. But hey, like I said, those are the kind of questions, the how, the why, etc. that the showrunners hope will make people come back next week, and the week after that, and the week after that... to find out the answers.

Is it plausible? Probably not. But it doesn't have to be. It just has to make viewers want to know the answers to those questions. It has to make them care what happens to the characters, and hope for them to win. It may or may not succeed as a show, but it has a huge fan-base already through the video game tie-in that already started weeks ago. It's kind of an ingenious idea, because what happens in the show affects the game, and the game can also affect the direction of the show. Gamers out there are loving it, from what I hear, and that's their target audience.

Jasana

(490 posts)
5. You forgot... it's not Sci Fi anymore... it's SyFy channel...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 03:12 AM
Apr 2013

and whenever I see that, for some reason, the word syphilis comes to mind. I haven't watched the station for a couple of years now but I still haunt the message board on occasion.

yoyossarian

(1,054 posts)
8. That's what you get for watching the SyFy channel!
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:41 AM
Apr 2013

Christ, they can't even spell Sci-Fi right!!!

Actually, I watched a chunk of it myself--but only a chunk. It had some decent sfx and it seemed better than some of the fare we've come to associate with them, shows such as UFO Repo Crew and Beer-Belly Bigfoot Humpers, and made-for-cable movies with titles like HulkSquid vs Sharktopus 1138 and Beowulf vs the Mutant SpiderDucks and Haunted Outhouse and stuff like that... but it's all pretty crappy when it comes to sci-fi for tv these days. Rockne O'Bannon is FAR from my favorite teleplay writer, and he sure seems to get a lotta work in the industry these last few decades. He wrote for the new Twilight Zone, Amazing Stories, the remade V and the films Alien Nation and Fear.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockne_O%27Bannon
...and I just think a LOT of that was pretty crappy, actually. Some decent actors in this new project, but ya can't fix lousy writing no matter how good an actor you are. It all comes down to the writer.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
9. I like the SyFy Channel
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 10:12 AM
Apr 2013

Just because they give some quirky shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13.

I don't know about Defiance. I'll watch it later and see if I will go from there.
I enjoyed Continuum a bit though, and it is set in Canada.

You're probably right in what you're saying. I'll give it a chance.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
14. Wha? After a cliffhanger like that?
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:35 PM
Apr 2013

Seriously? WHY?!!!!
Should have at least given it 3-4 seasons like the others.

This makes me so sad.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
16. I guess. I don't know, it is tons better than any sort of ridiculous B movie they produce.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 03:03 PM
Apr 2013

Seems like they are gambling on a new off-shoot of the Battlestar Galactica series, which takes up their funds.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
18. True... I'd say Lost Girl is a bit more "adult"
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 03:07 PM
Apr 2013

Themed that is...
However, in regards to dynamics and how the world works, I have to agree with you.

Scruffy Rumbler

(961 posts)
10. I watched it too.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:18 PM
Apr 2013

I had to go look it up online to figure out all the aliens. Story goes they are all from the same solar system and when it was about to be destroyed, the worked together to create a fleet of ark ships. The come to Earth and are surprised to find humans here.

They are given space for a couple of colonies, but nowhere near enough space for all the people in deep sleep. Their ambassador to the UN is killed, causing the beginning of the Pale Wars. At some point, the fleet in space is destroyed, no one knows who or how this happens. One of the outcomes is Arkfall, different ships crash to Earth releasing teraforming technology onto the planet in a haphazard way, as well as releasing flora and fauna from their home worlds. These as well as earth flora and fauna are mutated at an increased rate by the teraforming tech. The teraforming tech includes geological teraforming as well as environmental.

Their fuel is actualy the feces of one of the mutated insects.....

trueblue2007

(17,194 posts)
19. Well, i like it!! BEEN A SCIENCE FICTION FAN FOREVER.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 03:58 PM
Apr 2013

YES I LIKE IT.

ALSO LIKE FALLING SKYS
ONCE UPON A TIME
REVOLUTION

I like fantasy, I'm a fan of this show. I read about it before it came on.


https://www.facebook.com/Defiance?fref=ts

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
20. Falling Skyes and Revolution seem to have had a more full backstory....
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 04:05 PM
Apr 2013

And the production value is ramped up to a believable level, in my humble opinion.

MrsWCGreen loves Once Upon a Time. Me, take it or leave it.

a kennedy

(29,618 posts)
22. Hey thanks, will delete my DVR of it.....saw just a snippet or two and thought, not worth my time.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:27 AM
Apr 2013

Your assessment of it, just made it official for me, NOT going to bother with it.

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