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How women see themselves and how others see them. (Smartketing from Dove, Inc.) (Original Post) Bucky Apr 2013 OP
Thanks for posting. nt aaaaaa5a Apr 2013 #1
wow Kali Apr 2013 #2
What a novel approach to the issue of self preception...just amazing, really. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #3
Really liked this! alittlelark Apr 2013 #4
That is just stunning. Thank you! nolabear Apr 2013 #5
Even though Dove sells mostly to women, they should re-run the experiment with men. Jim Lane Apr 2013 #6
I doubt that would sell more cold cream Bucky Apr 2013 #7
imagine if they'd had them describe their bodies BainsBane Apr 2013 #8
Thanks. I hope that all the young DUers see this. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #9
I want to beleive the artist was fair and..... crazy homeless guy Apr 2013 #10
Very true caraher Apr 2013 #16
Thank you, Bucky... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #11
Hey, any thang for my sexay ladies. Bucky Apr 2013 #13
DU Rec. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2013 #12
Dove's done some crossover marketing/PSA that has been pretty good Taverner Apr 2013 #14
I believe this! Phentex Apr 2013 #15
Sometimes the problem is looking in the mirror too much caraher Apr 2013 #17
tears. we are so mean to ourselves. i wish people would not hurt themselves so.... nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #18
I stopped putting any credence in outward details a decade ago. lindysalsagal Apr 2013 #19

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. What a novel approach to the issue of self preception...just amazing, really.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:25 PM
Apr 2013

Thank you for posting this...provides a lot to think about.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
5. That is just stunning. Thank you!
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 12:12 AM
Apr 2013

I'm tempted to make a joke about my own appearance but, you know, I think I won't.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
6. Even though Dove sells mostly to women, they should re-run the experiment with men.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 12:49 AM
Apr 2013

My guess: Some men, who worry about their looks, would get results similar to those of the women. Other men, self-confident to the point of arrogance, would reverse the discrepancy (the sketch based on their self-description would be the better-looking one).

I'll bet the average, if you could quantify it, would be that the women would show a significantly greater degree of unfavorable distortion in their self-image.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
8. imagine if they'd had them describe their bodies
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:42 AM
Apr 2013

and not just their faces. Interesting video. Thanks for sharing it.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
9. Thanks. I hope that all the young DUers see this.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:47 AM
Apr 2013

I didn't realize until I was middle-aged that I at least looked normal, arguably pretty. And I only realized it then as I looked back at pictures of myself when I was young and thought, "Not bad at all." But when I was young, I judged myself as really not attractive at all.

What a shame. Young people miss out on a lot of life just worrying about whether they are acceptable.

We are all beautiful. You are beautiful.

10. I want to beleive the artist was fair and.....
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:54 AM
Apr 2013

...drew them equally on their descriptions but he did know when he was dealing with someone describing themselves vs someone describing someone else. This could easily influence the drawing.

...also, it is marketing. I think Dove is savy enough not to make this mistake but the whole thing could be made up just to tug at your heart strings. You can call it the old Don Draper.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
16. Very true
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:13 PM
Apr 2013

It's not a scientific study... and all the women participating are quite physically attractive.

Two obvious "tweaks" that would reduce the biases would be to have the women drawn also describe one another, and for the self-descriptions to be done in the 3rd person (so each woman would be instructed to respond to questions as if they were about someone else when they were actually describing themselves, and so any limitations to how they talk about appearance would be present in sketches of at least one other person as well).

Yes, it is marketing, and it's brilliant marketing because today thousands of people are associating a positive vibe with Dove. Frankly, I can't get too made at them for this if it makes women see themselves in a more positive way.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
15. I believe this!
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 05:28 PM
Apr 2013

I hear women describe things about themselves and I have often wondered if they ever look in a mirror.

I'm guilty of this too.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
17. Sometimes the problem is looking in the mirror too much
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:16 PM
Apr 2013

I've heard women describe purported flaws I'd never have seen on my own. Tiny, unnoticeable things get inflated well out of proportion.

I guess when I look at myself in the mirror it's usually to look for flaws and that's true for most people (in my case, is my hair doing something weird? did I catch everything I needed to when I shaved?). But when I look at others I'm ordinarily not looking for flaws; in fact, quite the opposite. I'd rather focus on the surface features I find pleasant.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
19. I stopped putting any credence in outward details a decade ago.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 08:59 PM
Apr 2013

If you ignore the mask, the inner person is always coming through, and that's so much more interesting. The idea of beauty is misleading: I look for depth and thoughfullness and complexity, rather than perfection or symmetry.

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