Game of Thrones thread.

[Baitball Blogger]

So who was the terrible bowsman? Was there a personal reason he missed the shot?

[bluedigger]

1. He's no Hot Pie.

I think those slavers are in big trouble.

[Newest Reality]

2. Ah!!! Sweet distraction!

pulverize me in fantasy so that I may not confront the reality I face.

May my children forgive me my own legitimization of my future disgrace!

[Baitball Blogger]

3. I dare say that literature has done more to win minds and plant ideas, than

dry, humorless debates.

[Newest Reality]

6. Perhaps,

literature has done more to implant beliefs than it has done to impose a reassessment of reality upon those who it has affected?

We can see that there are tribes untouched by our history and literal assessments, who are perfectly capable of living life in tune with their environments and nature without any imposition of literacy or even history itself.

If you want to think of literature as a cure, consider it also, as a cause. If it is a cause that curse itself, then we have much to consider in the sense of our indoctrination, conditioning and how what is imposed upon us then presents itself as a supposedly obvious and benevolent savior for a predicament that is not necessarily natural, but an artificial result of our capacity to create an abstract, symbolic representation of reality and then lord our skills of that understanding over others.

What part of oneupmanship do we not get here?

[Baitball Blogger]

7. If you think primitive cultures are without their storytelling, I think you're off the mark.

There is plenty of places on DU to have serious discussions. This is the Lounge, where we're allowed to go beyond our confined "realities."

[Liberal Veteran]

4. Lots of sex. Contortionists, attempted rape, and handjobs.

Although the last wasn't exactly a happy ending.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. I'm still watching it.

I got to the contortionist part.

[OriginalGeek]

8. was I not paying attention or

was the bad bowman the same guy Robb was later chewing out for taking the mill?

[Baitball Blogger]

9. I need more background info on him too.

I didn't understand why they were spending so much time on him.

[BainsBane]

10. He is Rob's cousin

The son of Cat's brother. He missed the shot because he's inept, the same reason he took the mill rather than following Rob's orders.

[warrior1]

11. The end spoiler

I knew it was coming but it was still a shock that Jamie lost his hand. I almost felt sorry for him until I remembered he tried to kill Bran.

[OriginalGeek]

12. I remembered it from the book

but I thought I remembered it happening differently....Man I should read them again. I keep saying that in all these GoT threads but I keep not doing it...I will though.

[NewJeffCT]

13. in the books

Jamie was captured by a group of mercenaries of questionable loyalty called The Brave Companions, led by a lisping fellow named Vargo Hoat. The Brave Companions - or Bloody Mummers - were an eclectic lot of mercenaries, and it was a fat Dothraki guy who chopped his hand off with an arakh. Forgot the exact name.

[Mike Daniels]

22. One of the better changes of the show from the book was doing away with the Mummers

Not sure that Vargo Hoat pulling a Sylvester the Cat would have come off as anything but annoying on screen...and people would complain if you had Vargo but without his lisp.

The Bolton lackey comes off as much more menacing/psychotic in my opinion.

Since the Mummers main purpose is to get Jamie and Brienne's traveling road show to Harrenhall it makes just as much sense to turn them into Bolton loyalists in the program.

[NewJeffCT]

23. Monty Python ruined lisping characters

For every English language movie or TV show. "Biggus Dickus"

[Baitball Blogger]

16. It certainly is going to raise Tyrion's real estate in their father's eyes.

[FloridaJudy]

14. Has Jaime lost his hand already?

That's pretty far into the book. The fat Dothraki is never named AFAIK.

I don't have cable, but I can't wait until Joffrey's wedding. That's got to be an OMG moment on Facebook for anyone who hasn't read the book.

And as for the wedding that takes place later....

[Baitball Blogger]

17. What fat Dothraki?

I definitely need to watch that show without working on other projects at the same time.

I already see what's coming with the big dragon that was traded for the slaves.

[NewJeffCT]

20. The fat Dothraki in the books

was not named at the time, but later Jamie referred to him as Zollo the Fat.

[nolabear]

24. LOL You and me both. I was never so happy to see...well, you know.

[RZM]

15. Same guy also played Brutus in Rome

Poor guy is always getting cast as a son of privilege in over his head.

The guy who played Julius Caesar is also on the show now too.

[NewJeffCT]

26. and, I know a lot of Game of Thrones fans

are pushing for James Purefoy to have a role in GoT as well.

He was Marc Antony on Rome...

[Hayabusa]

18. Edmure Tully

Catelyn's brother. The older man she was speaking to was her uncle.

[NewJeffCT]

19. Not just Cat's brother

but, he is now the Lord of Riverrun, and therefore, one of the most powerful lords in the 7 kingdoms. And, he's single.

He may have misfired out of grief over his father's death? Or, maybe he's just not a great bowman? Or, maybe a bit of both.

[Hayabusa]

21. I interpreted it as grief, too.

[NewJeffCT]

25. I'd have preferred they had a bit of dialogue there, though

might have helped explain the situation.

[Hayabusa]

30. I don't like how they've delayed on introing characters

until absolutely necessary. The Blackfish was introduced in the first book as a bannerman of Robert Arryn. It won't on him, but I do get the feeling that this might bite them in the ass one day.

[NewJeffCT]

31. The Blackfish played a big part in Robb's battle success

by serving as a scout/outrider.

Unfortunately, with a limited budget and "only" 10 hours per year of show (which includes 1 minute of "previously on" and 90 seconds of theme song and 1 minute of close credits per week), you can't include every detail.

The big thing left out is all of Ned's flashbacks from book 1 regarding Lyanna Stark, and the hints about Jon Snow. They really have to work all that in there one of these days (Maester Aemon maybe?)

[Hayabusa]

32. *SPOILERS*

Yeah, but they only have two seasons for that, really.

[NewJeffCT]

27. finally saw the episode

as I was out of the country on vacation last week...

Good episode overall - not sure where they're going with Theon. I liked them ending on Jamie getting his hand chopped off.

[Baitball Blogger]

28. Looks like Theon is getting an opportunity for redemption?

Because, wasn't he supposed to be humbled beyond recognition?

[Hayabusa]

29. Reek, Reek, it rhymes with sneak peek.

And that's all you get.