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haikugal

(6,476 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:32 PM Apr 2013

Don't live on the East Coast?

You're going to miss out on the great cicada hatch! I feel for you because I look forward to them. This year is supposed to be spectacular. If you're interested in knowing more, watching action gifs or hearing them, then here's a link to some pretty good information.

http://www.alternet.org/your-sensory-guide-imminent-month-long-cicada-orgy

Your Sensory Guide to the Imminent, Month-Long Cicada Orgy
See, hear and taste the cicada.


If you live on the East Coast, you’ve probably heard that billions of alien bugs called cicadas will emerge from the ground this spring, swarming over a stretch of land from North Carolina to the southern tip of Vermont. When it hits 64 degrees, this collective of cicada offspring called Brood II will rise from their lairs, find mates to make cicada babies, get busy and die. It’s the closest thing we have to a monster movie, but these little critters pose virtually no threat to humans. Since Brood II won’t invade again for another 17 years, we encourage East Coasters to open their eyes, ears and mouths (!) and soak in the cicada swarm. Here’s a sensory guide for maximizing your cicada experience:


Enjoy!
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Don't live on the East Coast? (Original Post) haikugal Apr 2013 OP
It's been 17 years already? Xyzse Apr 2013 #1
This is the big one... haikugal Apr 2013 #3
I remember one called being "The Big One" Xyzse Apr 2013 #5
I remember that one... haikugal Apr 2013 #9
Oh cool! Xyzse Apr 2013 #13
We had gigantic cicadas in Texas when I was growing up. Aristus Apr 2013 #2
They are pretty large... haikugal Apr 2013 #11
Oh crap. HappyMe Apr 2013 #4
LOL..... haikugal Apr 2013 #8
Hey, I like listening to the birds and watching HappyMe Apr 2013 #10
LOL..... haikugal Apr 2013 #12
Cool! I live in Upstate New York! My parrots are going to go apeshit! In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #6
OMG... haikugal Apr 2013 #24
Frodo whispers: you're okay ... over and over ... In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #26
LOL!!! haikugal Apr 2013 #28
Ah the cicada sound... brings me back to memories of Ohio sakabatou Apr 2013 #7
Oh, great. Cicadas AND the recent invasion of stink bugs. I hope the cicadas eat stink bugs! nt valerief Apr 2013 #14
I live in PA... haikugal Apr 2013 #15
I'm in MA. We just got them last year. Good to hear birds eat them! nt valerief Apr 2013 #40
cicadas are a sign of summer for me Kali Apr 2013 #16
Yes... haikugal Apr 2013 #19
I don't think we have the periodic types out here Kali Apr 2013 #21
Wow... haikugal Apr 2013 #23
not sure what they are, kind of thought they might be some kind of Japanese Beetle??? Kali Apr 2013 #25
Holy Cow!!! haikugal Apr 2013 #27
nah, I am in south east Arizona and we do get grasshoppers in the fall. But last summer Kali Apr 2013 #37
Ah... haikugal Apr 2013 #39
The Cicada Bonus Bertha Venation Apr 2013 #17
What a lovely association.. haikugal Apr 2013 #18
I'm from So. California Bertha Venation Apr 2013 #20
Ha!! haikugal Apr 2013 #22
VERY nice! Don't think I received one of those!!! elleng Apr 2013 #38
Well, I rarely go to asian buffets but I have to wonder Xyzse Apr 2013 #29
Deep fried? haikugal Apr 2013 #30
You know it! Xyzse Apr 2013 #31
Snails are so yeah! haikugal Apr 2013 #32
Ugh, not in to snails... Xyzse Apr 2013 #33
Well.... haikugal Apr 2013 #34
Yeah, still not in to it. Xyzse Apr 2013 #35
Wow, you've got it goin' on! haikugal Apr 2013 #36
I really do enjoy making escargot and dipped in garlic sauce. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #41
Do you grow your own? haikugal Apr 2013 #42
Nope. I buy 'em ready to cook. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #43
Very cool... haikugal Apr 2013 #44
Snails, snakes, lizards, birds ... not your usual pets. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #45
I've been in love haikugal Apr 2013 #46

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
1. It's been 17 years already?
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:47 PM
Apr 2013

I remember this happening a while back.... but I remember it happening either in the early 2000s or very late 90s...

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
3. This is the big one...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:58 PM
Apr 2013

We have a few every year but there are several varieties that hatch at different intervals.

From wiki... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada

Most of the North American species are in the genus Tibicen: the annual or jar fly or dog-day cicadas (so named because they emerge in late July and August). [1] The best-known North American genus is Magicicada, however. These periodical cicadas have an extremely long life cycle of 13 to 17 years and emerge in large numbers.[1] Another American species is the Apache cicada, Diceroprocta apache.

I'm looking forward to it!

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
5. I remember one called being "The Big One"
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 01:03 PM
Apr 2013

I think it was 2004 which is what I experienced.
I guess that's been 9 years already. So a new one comes out? I live in MD so, perhaps this one is in your area?

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
9. I remember that one...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 01:08 PM
Apr 2013

it was pretty remarkable but this is the long count cicada hatch and as the link explains it's from Carolina up into the north east. You're right in the middle of it!! Happy news!

Aristus

(66,326 posts)
2. We had gigantic cicadas in Texas when I was growing up.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:53 PM
Apr 2013

They scared the hell out of me, 'cause they looked to me like huge bumble bees. The girl next door, who occasionally babysat me and my brother, had to point out that they were harmless. Noisy, but completely harmless.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
8. LOL.....
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 01:04 PM
Apr 2013

I love natures rhythms, sounds, smells etc. I'm a pagan at heart. I'll sit on the deck and watch the birds fill themselves and listen to the noise and remember my childhood. I hope we have a good butterfly year. We had new varieties show up last year...I think it's the changing climate.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
10. Hey, I like listening to the birds and watching
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 01:09 PM
Apr 2013

squirrels, butterflies....
Having a biblical-like plague of bugs isn't on my 'yay nature' list.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
24. OMG...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:51 PM
Apr 2013

what if they learn to imitate the cicada song?! LOL I had a parrot that used to learn all kinds of naughty things....lol

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
26. Frodo whispers: you're okay ... over and over ...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:32 PM
Apr 2013

the cicada song would be lovely ...

way better than ... cracker, cracker, cracker, want some, cracker ...

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
15. I live in PA...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 01:42 PM
Apr 2013

I think this will be our 3rd year with Chinese stinkbugs...year one was unfracking believable..I mean an unstoppable invasion...year two the birds had learned to eat them and it was like night and day...I'm waiting to see what will happen this year. I appreciate what you're saying...I much prefer Cicadas.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
16. cicadas are a sign of summer for me
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:04 PM
Apr 2013

as kids we called them bzzz bugs. they start singing when it gets good an hot - and almost make it feel hotter just because of the association. "the bzzz bugs are out it must be 95 and summer now"

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
19. Yes...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:24 PM
Apr 2013

I associate them with very heavy, hot weather as well, however this hatch is coming in spring...of course who knows how hot that will be because we had 3 days last week of 85 degree weather...damned hot.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
21. I don't think we have the periodic types out here
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:35 PM
Apr 2013

so haven't ever experienced that. Every year does seem to bring out some heavier hatch of some critter though. it is weird, guess I haven't lived long enough to see the pattern. One year will be some kind of caterpillar, another will be a beetle, rodents, skunks, snakes. It's always something new.

July 2011 beetle explosion





haikugal

(6,476 posts)
23. Wow...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:49 PM
Apr 2013

that's interesting. What type of beetle is that? When we first moved back here from CA I had an infestation of Japanese beetles on the grapes that looked like that. I rarely see them now. I keep an eye out for tent caterpillars and remove them..and every fall field mice try to move in but over the last few years we seem to be invaded with ground hogs..they want to live in the barn, under the house etc. I'm not sure how to deal with them..I saw what looked like an immature eagle not long ago...these ground hogs would make a good meal for them or a large red tail...but they'll probably take rabbits first.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
25. not sure what they are, kind of thought they might be some kind of Japanese Beetle???
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:01 PM
Apr 2013

I reverted to childhood nomenclature and called them yellow gold bugs (what we called gold bugs are what most call June bugs, but we called the big irridescent green beetles that fly in July, June bugs - how is that for scientific?) these swarmed like that for less than a week and then disappeared. only about three nights did they cover everything in the area under the porch light like that.

how big are ground hogs? we have rock squirrels and ground squirrels that tunnel and can ruin buildings. Snakes will start following them in and take care of the problem, unfortunately for us they are often rattlers and I prefer to NOT have them around the headquarters.

argh I was trying to remember what last year's thing was and almost forgot - grasshoppers. stripped everything, even ate the leaves off my lime and olive trees!

here is a peach pit left on the little tree - they ate 5 of them, stripped all the leaves and most of the bark. I thought it died, but it has put out a few new shoots of leaves.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
27. Holy Cow!!!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:41 PM
Apr 2013

Do you live on the plains? I've read that we will start to have various bug problems as everything gets wonky...you need some chickens. Two good hens would do it. I thought about getting some hens and maybe a Ginny hen for eggs and ticks. I did a search and found these... http://wiki.bugwood.org/HPIPM:Golden_Tortoise_Beetle is this the same bug? They sound pretty.

Ground hogs can get big....my little 24 lb dog can go down the hole.. here's a wiki

The groundhog (Marmota monax), also known as a woodchuck, whistle-pig, or in some areas as a land-beaver, is a rodent of the family Sciuridae, belonging to the group of large ground squirrels known as marmots. Other marmots, such as the yellow-bellied and hoary marmots, live in rocky and mountainous areas, but the woodchuck is a lowland creature. It is widely distributed in North America and common in the northeastern and central United States. Groundhogs are found as far north as Alaska, with their habitat extending southeast to Georgia.[2]

The groundhog is the largest sciurid in its geographical range, typically measuring 40 to 65 cm (16 to 26 in) long (including a 15 cm (6 in) tail) and weighing 2 to 4 kg (4 to 9 lb). In areas with fewer natural predators and large amounts of alfalfa, groundhogs can grow to 80 cm (30 in) and 14 kg (31 lb). Groundhogs are well adapted for digging, with short but powerful limbs and curved, thick claws. Unlike other sciurids, the groundhog's spine is curved, more like that of a mole, and the tail is comparably shorter as well—only about one-fourth of body length. Suited to their temperate habitat, groundhogs are covered with two coats of fur: a dense grey undercoat and a longer coat of banded guard hairs that gives the groundhog its distinctive "frosted" appearance.


I don't mind sharing with them but they want the buildings. Son and I will have to do something about them this year before they do too much damage. I never thought of them as squirrels until I read this wiki..lol

Kali

(55,007 posts)
37. nah, I am in south east Arizona and we do get grasshoppers in the fall. But last summer
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 05:23 PM
Apr 2013

we seemed to get extra-hammered for about a 1/4 mile all around the HQ. It was kind of weird.

I do have chickens and I took a gallon jar's worth of those beetles to them. They loved the treat. The beetles had congregated on virginia creeper vines under a porch light, so they weren't all over the place in the trees or anything like that.

I have heard of ground hogs and knew they were bigger than squirrels or prairie dogs but have never seen one. I guess cats aren't any good for them

Trapping is probably all you can do if they are already tunneled in, otherwise wire and concrete?

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
39. Ah...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 06:55 PM
Apr 2013

yes cats run from Groundhogs...my little Terrier is ready but he'd have a battle on his hands. Large teeth and low center of gravity...a snare I'm thinking. I hate to do it but we can't let them continue.

So you're in the desert then...I'll bet your hens were in heaven with the treat.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
17. The Cicada Bonus
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:11 PM
Apr 2013

Last time the cicadas bloomed, I worked at a law firm that had never given bonuses to its staff (at least not in any current employees' memories).

One day, out of the blue, and during the bug infestation, the firm announced a one-time bonus for staff.

We called it the Cicada Bonus.

I, for one, haikugal, am not looking forward to this brood. I want to be able to enjoy my deck. :shudder: And I don't want my cats bringing them in.

But I hope that you have fun!

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
18. What a lovely association..
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:21 PM
Apr 2013

the Cicada bonus! I don't know about your cats (mine would just eat it) but I don't expect them to hang out on my deck...trees, bushes etc., yes, deck...not so much. I hope that is true for you and thanks for the wishes for my enjoyment.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
20. I'm from So. California
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:28 PM
Apr 2013

Have lived in Maryland for twelve years. Bugs came as quite a shock to me.

The first time I heard cicadas was in September, 2000, when Mrs. V. and I were driving across the country. We stopped in OKC to stay with a friend of hers for a couple of days. We got out of the car in Susan's driveway, and I heard this VERY LOUD BUZZ. I looked up and down the street, trying to find where the sound was coming from. I thought four or five of her neighbors must be running table saws in their garages. Imagine my surprise when I learned that the sound was created by BUGS.



I don't know what to do when faced with someone who likes bugs. I admire you and wonder about you.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
22. Ha!!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:37 PM
Apr 2013

I lived in Chula Vista CA from ages 1-10...later spent many years in N. California..so I understand your 'culture' shock when it comes to bugs. When my son was small I had a ball showing him all the wonderful things in nature...he was lucky to have 'wild' places to play here on the 'farm'...I'm pretty strange 'for a girl'...LOL

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
29. Well, I rarely go to asian buffets but I have to wonder
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:45 PM
Apr 2013

If they will serve some of these, this time.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
31. You know it!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:51 PM
Apr 2013

I'd take a few pieces out of curiosity's sake if nothing else.

Maybe garlic sauce. Everything is better with garlic sauce!

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
33. Ugh, not in to snails...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 04:04 PM
Apr 2013

Still, I found an asian buffet that serves 2 kinds of snails!
I was wierded out.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
35. Yeah, still not in to it.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 04:12 PM
Apr 2013

I try every dish I've come in contact with twice.

Once to try it out, if I like it. If I do, I'll eat it again.
If I don't like it, I'll try it again in a different place, thinking that it might be prepared badly. If I still don't like it, then it is placed in the short list of foods that I am not willing to eat.

There is an appeal proccess however in those foods. If I am told that it is amazing by a reputable source, I may be persuaded to try it again. If it still doesn't work out, then that's it.

Escargot reached the third stage with me.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
43. Nope. I buy 'em ready to cook.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:08 AM
Apr 2013

It might be fun to watch 'em grow. The Golden Snails were awesome in my guppy tank.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
45. Snails, snakes, lizards, birds ... not your usual pets.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:29 AM
Apr 2013

Mr In The Wind is allergic to cats. [img][/img]


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haikugal

(6,476 posts)
46. I've been in love
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 10:00 AM
Apr 2013

Last edited Sat Apr 13, 2013, 03:06 PM - Edit history (1)

with lizards since early childhood...we don't have lizards here and I really miss them. Currently I leave our land fallow, so it can regenerate. I only keep about 5 acres for my horses to graze...and the Canada Geese that breed here. We have about 20 or so (I need to do a count) Blue Heron nests in our big trees at the stream...they totally fascinate me. The sounds they make are incredible...I imagine they sound like dinosaurs...lol...they are such large birds.

Mr Wind is lucky to have you

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