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(53,947 posts)My prediction: This will suck like Nicholas Cage's Wickerman.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Not because it didn't pack a punch at the end, but because everyone would tell them it wasn't as good as the original.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)There's so much great horror fiction that could be made into a fantastic film the likes of which weve never seen, like the horrific The Song Of Kali by Dan Simmons, winner of the World Fantasy Award.
http://www.amazon.com/Song-Kali-Dan-Simmons/dp/031286583X
The Church Of Dead Girls by Stephen Dobyns is another great horror novel in the thriller genre that could be made into something interesting on the screen instead of the pointless remakes.
Bucky
(53,947 posts)They want a proven product and have to be convinced a given risk on a new product line is worth the investment. I won't be watching this version of Carrie, just as I didn't see the new Total Recall. I did enjoy Peter Jackson's updated King Kong, however.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)After film school I got a job with the now defunct DEG (DeLaurentiis Entertainment Group) run by the DeLaurentiis family. I sat in on all the movie studio's creative development staff meetings and I also met many writers and producers including highly creative people like Sam Raimi and Robert Tappert. The studio was desperate for new quality stories but also overwhelmed by the fear of making mistakes (and judging by the number of flops DEG made they were right to be afraid). But they did take a chance on new stories like Manhunter, which was based on Thomas Harris's novel Red Dragon (the screenplay first had the working title of Red Dragon before it was changed) which later was incarnated as Silence Of The Lambs after DEG folded. Blue Velvet, Dune, and the horror cult film Pumpkinhead were other examples of DEG films I saw being put together which were gambles. The thing is that there would be no remakes if not for an original gamble. And believe it or not, the studios must have creative people whose number one concern is not making money, but making good pictures that will excite the public. Of course the bean counters get their say and people like Dino's oldest daughter Raffaella DeLaurentiis who was the studio President had a lot of pressure on her to make movies that people wanted to see and that made money, too, which often pulled her in two directions. I saw her twice a week at these staff meetings and saw what she was going through. Dino DeLaurentiis was very good friends with Stephen King and made films out of several of his novels like Firestarter, The Dead Zone, Cat's Eye, Silver Bullet, and Maximum Overdrive. I read several treatments of new projects submitted by Stephen King to the studio to suggest they be made into films, most of which weren't very good and I know that the number one concern was finding good material.
This was back in the 1980s. It's true that the studios are run with the goal of making money. But in my experience, which was primarily focused on finding new scripts or ideas and working with a lot of young writers, they were desperate for original stories that could generate interest in the public. They were there to make movies, not just to turn a profit by selling widgets. Lately, however, there seems to be an explosion of remakes, and of remakes of remakes. Without the original gamble on a previously undeveloped novel or screenplay, there would be nothing to remake.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)The whole writing process stinks. A writer has to send hundreds of proposals out before someone takes an interest, because publishing books isn't as profitable as it use to be.
I have a fiction story I know has twists that no one sees coming, but I also know that first book will be an e-book which I will try to plug on my own. It's the only way to get the attention you need for the second and third book.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)It looks pretty good.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)The Evil Dead was the first real horror film I ever saw and Evil Dead 2 is in my top three films of all time. I've heard mostly good things about the remake, but I'm still a bit apprehensive.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I've been a cult follower of Evil Dead since it first came out and this was very well done. If you're looking for the goofy slapstick that was ED2 or Army of Darkness don't bother going because this has none of that. This is the way the original was intended to be. Very intense, very gory and, depending on your sense of humor, hilarious or disturbing. Or maybe disturbingly hilarious....
I'm probably going to go again.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)I don't really consider it to be part of the Evil Dead universe, but I guess I kind of have to. But I found the humor of Evil Dead 2 to just be spot on. I'd never seen such a perfect blend of horror and comedy. I understand that this new one doesn't have much of that humor, but I at least hope it has some of the gleeful insanity of the Raimi/Campbell movies.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)You mean like in the original where deadite Shelly gnaws through her own wrist for no readily apparent reason then yeah, there's some of that.
But there are no laughing mounted moose heads or groan inducing puns. Nothing straight up comedic at all.
The Evil Dead has always been my favorite because it really wanted to be scary but ended up being unintentionally hilarious because of budget. Evil Dead 2 was intentionally funny with Bruce laying on the cheese. It's a great movie but with all the silliness, there isn't anything remotely frightening about it.
This reboot is what the original was meant to be. Horrifying. Sure, there are things to laugh at but the things I find funny most people just find sick.
This is a horror movie.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)And I assume I'll miss the murderous, autonomous hand too. I do enjoy a straight up horror flick, but I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for horror comedies (one of my recent favorites is "Tucker and Dale vs. Evil", gruesomely hilarious). I thought Raimi managed pretty damn well with "Drag Me to Hell" which, even though it was rated PG-13, had a pretty great combination of sick humor and horror.
I look forward to this new one, I might be seeing it tonight.
EvilAL
(1,437 posts)that out.
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