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Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:03 PM Apr 2013

So, I am considering moving from NYC to Portland, OR

My questions are:

I am a Project Manager in IT. WIll I be able to get work? I'm looking to work in software development, and I am willing to take a huge cut in pay to do so.

What are the rents like for a 1BR apartments?

What is it like to live in Portland, OR?

Am I crazy to even consider living in Portland?

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So, I am considering moving from NYC to Portland, OR (Original Post) Yavin4 Apr 2013 OP
Fly out for a week and check it out. cliffordu Apr 2013 #1
Any subset? NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #2
We gotcha covered!!! cliffordu Apr 2013 #3
Awww... NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #4
I moved from NYC to Pdx back in the late 90s and it was the best thing I ever did. dr.strangelove Apr 2013 #5
Thanks for the post. One question though Yavin4 Apr 2013 #6
Doesn't matter if you are a NYCer dr.strangelove Apr 2013 #7
We have a lot of good Thai food, though. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #13
ya gotta be able to deal with both seasons... Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2013 #8
I've lived here for almost 20 years. Recently a friend of a friend was considering a move from DC. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #9
Thanks a lot. That was an excellent post. Yavin4 Apr 2013 #11
You're welcome. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #12
Dang! Will you be moving soon? In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #10

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
1. Fly out for a week and check it out.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:12 PM
Apr 2013

I FUCKING LOVE Portland.

I dunno about the jobs you mention - Monster.com?

Rents are going to surprise the hell out of any New Yorker. For sure....

You can find any subset of humans in Portland - You will find kindred spirits and you'll be amazed at how tolerant the vast majority of the people there are.

Until they get behind the wheel of their car.

I'm moving back during the summer.



 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. Any subset?
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:16 PM
Apr 2013

Are there Furries who also skydive and do needlepoint?

Cuz if there are, MOVE OVER CLIFFORDU.

I'M Portland Bound!

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
5. I moved from NYC to Pdx back in the late 90s and it was the best thing I ever did.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:52 PM
Apr 2013

I have moved back to NYC due to my mom needing me closer after my father died, but would move back to PDX in a second. It is one of the best places I have ever lived.

I can not answer on the IT jobs, not my area.

Rents in Pdx are AMAZING compared to NYC. If you like downtown living, a nice 1BR will cost you in the $750 - $900 range. But no one lives downtown. Find someplace on the Max (light rail) and live in a great area outside downtown. My friend rents a 2BR with a view of Mt Hood from his hot tub on his deck and is 10 minutes from his job for $850 per month. It is very reasonable.

Portland is one of the best cities to live in. Great food, the best beer in the country, wonderful music, good places for film and theater. Is it NYC, of course not, nothing is. But it is great. If you bike, it is paradise. It rains. But it rains annually less than NYC, it is just spread out in a smaller period. From about mid-October until late April, it is misty and cloudy for about 85% of the time. Rare is it a hard downpour, and rarer still is snow and freezing temps. Its just misty and not sunny for a long time. But there are weeks of sun and temps in the mid 50s - 60s in November and February every year. The summers rock. No rain and no humidity. Low temps. I think I turned on the AC in my house 8 times over the course of 6 years. If you have a dog, it is maybe the most pet friendly city in the US ( go the Lucky Lab, the best pet friendly pub there is).

The only thing I warn you about is that the Chinese food is terrible and the soups are not great. Otherwise, it is heaven.

You are not crazy to consider living in Pdx. It is crazy not to consider it.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
6. Thanks for the post. One question though
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:55 PM
Apr 2013

How can the Chinese food be terrible? The Pacific Northwest and Western Canada have a huge Chinese cultural influence.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
7. Doesn't matter if you are a NYCer
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 03:00 PM
Apr 2013

It is a very different style of cooking than the chinese we in Manhattan who regularly hit Chinatown NYC are used to. I love NYC/Chinatown style cooking. I lived for years in the Murray Hill area of NYC and used to go down to chinatown 4 times a week for dinner. When I saw there was a gorgeous chinatown section of Pdx, I got excited. It is very different. It is not bad, but for a NYCer who loves our chinatown, it is terrible. I would liken Pdx to Seattle and San Fran chinese food, which is very good, just different from the NYC style of cooking I am used to. I never adjusted and still prefer going downtown to chinatown in NYC. I guess it is like that anywhere though. If you have been to San Fran and love the chinese styles of cooking popular in the chinatown area there, you will be fine.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
8. ya gotta be able to deal with both seasons...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:21 PM
Apr 2013

Rain and Road Construction.

The cloudy days get me down every winter, but there's so much here that makes up for it.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
9. I've lived here for almost 20 years. Recently a friend of a friend was considering a move from DC.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:27 AM
Apr 2013

This is what I wrote:

Portland is touted as a livable city, and I'd say that is true for the most part. It's on a nice scale, most neighborhoods are relatively safe, it has lots of trees, and many places are "walkable" to stores, cafes, etc. Certain streets in Portland seem like bike highways, and the biking culture is definitely huge here. Public transportation is pretty good; there are a lot of bus lines and also a light rail system. (It's not nearly as good as the Metro, though!) For a west coast city, there are a lot of neighborhoods that have charming pre-WWII houses (which people are continually fixing up).

The parks (and the parks-and-rec) programs are great. For the most part, It's a very nice city to raise kids in. However, the public schools are holding on by their fingernails, and every year it seems they slip more and there are more cuts. Housing costs have been much lower than in cities like San Francisco, New York, Boston, etc., although I'm not exactly sure how they compare to the DC area at this time (we were renters when we lived in DC).

It's very easy to get out of the city and into wilderness in a short amount of time. You can get to the top of Mt. Hood by driving about 1 1/2 hours east, and you can get to ocean by driving about 1/12 hours west. The Pacific is cold all the way down to Southern California, but Oregon beaches are uncrowded and pretty spectacular and dramatic (cliffs and forests and giant rocks, etc.) There are umpteen forests, rivers and lakes to hike and camp in and around not far out from Portland. The central Oregon area is gorgeous and spectacular (maybe 3 1/2 hours away from Portland) and has a high desert region, in addition to all the Cascade peaks, large rivers, etc. There's a large fully-rural island in the middle of the Columbia river just north of Portland, and it's fun to go there to pick fruit, get pumpkins, etc. in the summer and fall.

Portland has a great food scene. If politics is DC's obsession, food is probably Portland's. People are really into the farmers markets, local food, CSAs, cooking fresh, new restaurants, food carts, etc., and there are plenty of great coffee (and tea) houses, brew pubs, wine bars, etc. There is a wine country not far out of Portland (centered around McMinnville/Newburg). Pinot noir is definitely the specialty the area does best (the whites usually aren't so great).

Assuming you are liberal, you will definitely be surrounded by like-minded people. (Although there's not the obsession with politics like there is in DC, of course.) The Portlandia image, while exaggerated, is definitely based on a lot of reality! However, you don't have to be a vegan or have 27 piercings to feel at home, either. People are very laid back, and mostly polite and friendly. Drivers are amazingly forgiving and courteous compared to other places I've lived/driven. People are definitely into recycling, composting, gardening (and raising chickens), buying used clothes, etc. It is a very casual place, in terms of style.

Of course rain is the big factor for people to consider. Yes, it rains a lot, and when it's not raining, it's often gray for days on end. Summer is spectacular, dry and comfortable, but it takes awhile to kick into gear (people say it starts on July 5). September and October are usually gorgeous. The serious rains start in November. I find I don't mind the gray in the winter months, because it's winter, but spring can be very frustrating. It routinely gets your hopes up and dashes them (although the blossoms are beautiful -- lots of rhodies, azaleas and fruit trees everywhere). Sometimes June is dreary, and by then people have had enough, but there's nothing to be done about it. I try to just not obsess about the weather, and not look ahead too much. If you can get outside even if it's wet or gray it will help. On the other hand, it is green, the air smells great, and there is plenty of oxygen for everyone to breathe! We get snow only rarely. Many years we'll just get a couple dusting that melt within a few hours. When there is a true snowfall of more than an inch that sticks around for a couple days it is like an all-Portland holiday and celebration. People can't drive in it, though, and the hills don't help that.

Portland is a very white city. I was surprised when we moved here that it wasn't more diverse. The suburbs, like Beaverton and Gresham, are actually more diverse than the city because they're more affordable for immigrants from Latin America and Asian countries. There is a small African American population, traditionally centered in parts of NE Portland, although many have been driven out because of rising housing costs in the "close-in" parts of the city. One thing I really miss about DC is the cosmopolitan/international scene. Portland just doesn't have that. It's not on the grand loop of international tourism like DC is. While there are museums, etc., here, it really can't compare with DC (nothing comes remotely close to the Smithsonian, for example). There aren't that many big tourist attractions and historic sites here, of course. Portland is definitely very artsy, though, and there are all sorts of galleries and events happening all the time.

The job scene is a little tricky. A lot of younger, creative people have moved to Portland and were then unable to find work. Many people are under-employed, working as baristas and such. Hopefully the job market will start to pick up more soon. Of course DC has all sorts of opportunities in agencies, associations, non-profits, etc., and there is a small fraction of that here.

I hope this helps a bit. Good luck!


I am not sure specifically about IT but there are a lot of techy jobs with Intel, etc. Not sure how the hiring is now. however.

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