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LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:58 AM Sep 2020

Saw someone with a mask pulled down to chin at the docs office

Pointed her out to a nurses aide, and the aide turned and walked away without a word.

When the aide came back a couple minutes later, she deliberately pulled her mask down while she was taking my vitals. I didn’t say a word to her. She pulled the mask back up properly before the doc came in.

I told the doc, who had me talk to the practice manager.

These anti mask assholes really make me angry. I’m sure nothing will happen to the aide.

I hate that a simple measure to save lives has become such a political thing.

I’m still so angry I am shaking.

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Saw someone with a mask pulled down to chin at the docs office (Original Post) LiberalLoner Sep 2020 OP
I've gotten to the point I hope they get fired. Lars39 Sep 2020 #1
It won't happen though, nothing will happen to her. I doubt they will even talk to her. But.... LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #3
Fire the doctor and explain why. You go there to get well, not to get sick. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #58
The new CDC director TOTALY agrees with you. Sadly his days are likely numbered. usaf-vet Sep 2020 #65
same thing happened in Albertsons vapor2 Sep 2020 #2
Yeah, understandable. But it's distressing when medical staff do that, they should be protecting LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #4
You need to also call the state medical board and make a complaint. BComplex Sep 2020 #71
I don't have any proof, it's her word against mine. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #72
Medical Condition nonsense Claire Oh Nette Sep 2020 #35
❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹👏👏👏 LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #36
when i see dick noses , and haven't seen many lately, i will point where they'r egoing and say certainot Sep 2020 #50
If somebody has lung or heart problems, that is all the more reason to mask up! lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #59
RIght??? Claire Oh Nette Sep 2020 #67
They do that here and it pisses me off worse than no mask. marble falls Sep 2020 #5
They do it to deliberately piss us off. Wonder how many will catch Covid that way? LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #6
While I do not wish it on anyone, its hard not to find candidates to wish it on. marble falls Sep 2020 #13
Honestly, you need to protect yourself. There's nothing wrong with speaking up immediately. Cousin Dupree Sep 2020 #7
It's obvious she was doing it to troll me so she wasn't going to listen to my request at all... LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #9
I think I would have told the practice mgr. that I would be reporting this dangerous situation to niyad Sep 2020 #38
I've never heard of DORA...? LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #39
Department of Regulatory Agencies, oversees licensing. Every state has some version of it. niyad Sep 2020 #52
Thank you! LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #54
You are most welcome. niyad Sep 2020 #55
I would have refused to let her take my vitals womanofthehills Sep 2020 #74
+1 LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #75
Thanks for this reminder. NT enough Sep 2020 #10
You're absolutely right! SunnyATT Sep 2020 #66
The anger is so deep in some people, it's frightening. We are in a perilous state. NT enough Sep 2020 #8
Yeah, we are. My anger is getting pretty deep at this point too, to be honest. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #15
The DOCTOR should talk to the practice manager! They are the ones responsible for running Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #11
The doctor brought the practice manager in to talk with me. He is a great doctor, who is one of LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #12
Oh, I thought he just told you to go find the practice nurse and tell her. I didn't know he Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #18
file a complaint with the board of nursing or whatever licenses her in your state nt Fresh_Start Sep 2020 #14
Would that work with a non nurse aide? LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #17
Nurse's aides are licensed in some states Fresh_Start Sep 2020 #19
Oh, okay, thanks! LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #22
I'm guessing it was a medical technician in a doctor's office, but BusyBeingBest Sep 2020 #49
If I was mad enough I might mail the office, the provider, insurance co bullimiami Sep 2020 #16
There ya go! My kind of complainer. You have to make noise in order to make change. Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #20
I'm satisfied with the action I took, for now. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #21
I would call back to the office manager and demand to know what action had been taken. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #23
She said she would talk to the aide and all the staff. If I go back and the aide does that again LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #24
I hope you do. This is too serious to simply let pass. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #26
Yes, I agree. I will see what happens now. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #30
Geez, I'm sorry that happened to you. One expects to be safe and taken care of in a Dr's office. gristy Sep 2020 #25
Thank you so much! That empathy really helps me right now, I feel better now! Thank you! LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #28
physician review sites sometimes review the staff... Fresh_Start Sep 2020 #27
Thank you! LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #29
I say something to any workers not wearing one now Bayard Sep 2020 #31
LOL! It just shocked me to see someone in the medical profession doing that...makes me LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #32
Exactly! Duppers Sep 2020 #70
I love my two doctor's offices. redstatebluegirl Sep 2020 #33
I wish that happened with the office I am going to! The nurse's aide appeared to be in her 20s, LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #34
maybe not necessarily Trumpers Skittles Sep 2020 #77
That's true. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #78
Yes. luvtheGWN Sep 2020 #42
Next time tell the doctor, right in front of her, what she did Escurumbele Sep 2020 #37
I didn't want to confront her directly for worries she was dangerous LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #40
I'd take a picture of her with her mask down. nt SunSeeker Sep 2020 #43
I wish I had thought of that. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #45
Most doctor's offices tell you to turn off/put away your phone. SunSeeker Sep 2020 #48
I'm glad you spoke up. That nurse aide should be fired. SunSeeker Sep 2020 #41
If a med tech, aide, or anyone in a medical capacity BusyBeingBest Sep 2020 #44
❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏 LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #46
Me too. And take video. nt SunSeeker Sep 2020 #47
They're supposed to be health professionals protecting your health. Grokenstein Sep 2020 #51
Next time I will. And I will be filming the whole time. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #53
Some ideas... The Conductor Sep 2020 #56
Thank you! LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #57
Insurance company is your ally. Tell them to put the mask on Tetrachloride Sep 2020 #60
Good one! LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #62
Yesterday went to an ear doctor who didn't wear a mask and told me I could take mine off. grantcart Sep 2020 #61
I really don't think that's smart. LisaL Sep 2020 #69
Nothing worse than an uninformed doctor. SharonClark Sep 2020 #73
That is horrific. I cannot imagine going moonscape Sep 2020 #63
Thank you so much! ❤️❤️❤️ LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #64
I keep thinking, we are living in a country where a significant portion of the citizens are insane. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #68
"Either she goes, or I go." AwakeAtLast Sep 2020 #76
. backtoblue Sep 2020 #79
Thank you! Today is better. Went back to get blood drawn, med tech was gone and a new LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #80
Went back today to get my blood drawn, new med tech, the one who trolled me was gone. Not LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #81

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
3. It won't happen though, nothing will happen to her. I doubt they will even talk to her. But....
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:02 PM
Sep 2020

One thing I’ve noticed in life is, people with antisocial traits tend to not do very well in life, they sabotage themselves, so....karma.

vapor2

(1,238 posts)
2. same thing happened in Albertsons
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:02 PM
Sep 2020

I said nothing to the lady not wearing a mask at all but told the mgr. He said something to her and her response was that she had a medical excuse and the mgr told me that the conversation is over when that excuse is used. SO, anyone can say what she did. I just have to walk away from these nutjobs.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
4. Yeah, understandable. But it's distressing when medical staff do that, they should be protecting
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:04 PM
Sep 2020

Patients, not endangering us.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
35. Medical Condition nonsense
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:13 PM
Sep 2020

If a person's has a medical condition (they don't) that precludes mask wearing in a grocery store for all of twenty minutes, then that person really ought to take advantage of curbside.

Two heart attacks and about 50% cardio function. Exercise induced asthma. and a mask does not interfere at all.

We have got to report to management in house, and Regional managers outside, and corporate HQ. Phone, email, hard copy letter. Photos, details, and what percentage of Radical AntiMa Maskholes.

I've begun to tell the dick-nosers I am still testing positive as I cough all over the place behind my mask. If they can lie, so can I. And every one of those big, tough, medical condition prevents me from wearing a mask pulls it right up. We should be well past this if we mandated masks in public from March through June.





I phucking *hate* them.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
50. when i see dick noses , and haven't seen many lately, i will point where they'r egoing and say
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:41 PM
Sep 2020

"there was a guy without a mask back there coughing a minute ago"

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
67. RIght???
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:14 PM
Sep 2020

After I cough behind the mask, I say it's a nuisance, of course, but I have respect for my fellow man.

Polite, and focused on my actions, not theirs. When you say, I do this because I respect you, their choice is to continue to be a dick nose, or grow the phuck up. Guy actually said, later, after he'd thought about it, "Oh, I resect you..." Sure you do, DN.


Courage, Team!!

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
7. Honestly, you need to protect yourself. There's nothing wrong with speaking up immediately.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

DO NOT subject yourself to possible illness in order to be polite. I would have asked her to stop taking my vitals and either pull up her mask or go get someone who will. You must advocate for yourself and not be shy about it. It’s ok to speak up. PS I’m a nurse.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
9. It's obvious she was doing it to troll me so she wasn't going to listen to my request at all...
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:12 PM
Sep 2020

But by talking to the practice manager I was trying to speak up for all of us patients.

But thank you for the reminder and thank you for the work you do!

niyad

(113,021 posts)
38. I think I would have told the practice mgr. that I would be reporting this dangerous situation to
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:17 PM
Sep 2020

DORA, and whatever review sites I could find.

niyad

(113,021 posts)
52. Department of Regulatory Agencies, oversees licensing. Every state has some version of it.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:46 PM
Sep 2020

I keep their number in my contacts.

womanofthehills

(8,657 posts)
74. I would have refused to let her take my vitals
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 06:24 PM
Sep 2020

I would have sat there quietly and told her you can’t take them until you are masked. Wait her out.


SunnyATT

(56 posts)
66. You're absolutely right!
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:04 PM
Sep 2020

I'm an N.P. and totally agree. It's not worth the risk just to be "polite". The aide was unprofessional at the very least. Was the doctor wearing a mask?

Maraya1969

(22,459 posts)
11. The DOCTOR should talk to the practice manager! They are the ones responsible for running
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:13 PM
Sep 2020

a safe environment for their patients.

I would report the doctor to the local health department or whoever is over him that he has to answer to.

It is no different than if they didn't wash their hands before touching you. It is disgusting and dangerous.

OR you can give him a bad Google review. That gets people moving I have found.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
12. The doctor brought the practice manager in to talk with me. He is a great doctor, who is one of
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:16 PM
Sep 2020

Many doctors working at that practice. He did not see the incident so he did the right thing by bringing in the practice manager.

If it were my practice, I would fire the aide who did that, as I would fire anyone mistreating patients, but it’s not my call, obviously.

Maraya1969

(22,459 posts)
18. Oh, I thought he just told you to go find the practice nurse and tell her. I didn't know he
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:18 PM
Sep 2020

brought her into the room with you. That sounds very different.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
49. I'm guessing it was a medical technician in a doctor's office, but
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:35 PM
Sep 2020

she still has a state issued license or certification, so the same principle applies.

bullimiami

(13,074 posts)
16. If I was mad enough I might mail the office, the provider, insurance co
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:17 PM
Sep 2020

And tell them I’m considering a civil suit if nothing is done.

hlthe2b

(102,105 posts)
23. I would call back to the office manager and demand to know what action had been taken.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:20 PM
Sep 2020

If she/he refuses to tell you then state your next step will be to file a complaint with the State Board of Medicine. That to quell your concerns, you NOW need to hear back from the Senior Managing or practice owning physician(s).

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
24. She said she would talk to the aide and all the staff. If I go back and the aide does that again
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:22 PM
Sep 2020

Then I will take further steps.

hlthe2b

(102,105 posts)
26. I hope you do. This is too serious to simply let pass.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:23 PM
Sep 2020

You now are in a position to act to protect OTHERS!

gristy

(10,667 posts)
25. Geez, I'm sorry that happened to you. One expects to be safe and taken care of in a Dr's office.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:22 PM
Sep 2020

And when one isn't it is quite jarring. I'd be shaking too.

Bayard

(22,004 posts)
31. I say something to any workers not wearing one now
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:29 PM
Sep 2020

Or wearing it improperly. Don't see many non-maskers now in my little corner of southern KY, but when I do, I glare and take a wide berth around them. My husband does theatrics--face turned away, arms protectively over his head, and running. It certainly gets attention!

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
32. LOL! It just shocked me to see someone in the medical profession doing that...makes me
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:37 PM
Sep 2020

Wonder what other things she does. Does she wash her hands between patients or after using the bathroom?

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
33. I love my two doctor's offices.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:40 PM
Sep 2020

Both of them insist that you remain in your car until they come out to get you. They check your temperature, make sure your mask is secure and make a point of telling you that if you remove your mask at any time during the visit you will have to leave and be charged for the office visit. I have seen some not happy, one was hollering in the parking lot, the nurse was very calm, she told him that he was free to find another physician. He put on his mask.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
34. I wish that happened with the office I am going to! The nurse's aide appeared to be in her 20s,
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:42 PM
Sep 2020

Just goes to remind me that even some young people are still Trumpers. I keep thinking most young people are on our side.

Skittles

(153,104 posts)
77. maybe not necessarily Trumpers
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:44 AM
Sep 2020

very young folk have a reputation for thinking they are invincible, that is nothing new

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
42. Yes.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:26 PM
Sep 2020

Same situation with my doctor's medical clinic. Except we have a number to call to let the receptionist know we are at the door. The main door is locked and we are instructed to enter via one door on one side of the building, and exit out another door on the other side. This is in Ontario.

Can't remember the last time I saw someone not wearing a mask. Oh, it must have been the third week of March

Escurumbele

(3,374 posts)
37. Next time tell the doctor, right in front of her, what she did
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:15 PM
Sep 2020

Excuse me for saying this, I fight about this with members of my family. WE MUST SPEAK OUT, we cannot remain quiet, she should have been exposed for her actions right in front of the Dr.

First, I would have told her to put her mask on, and if she refused I would call the Dr. I would have not allowed her to touch me without her mask on. Then I would have told the Dr about the incident, and then I would have spoken to the practice manager.

Make sure that she cannot be a jack ass, at least at work. We need to make these jack asses accountable for their actions.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
40. I didn't want to confront her directly for worries she was dangerous
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:21 PM
Sep 2020

But I did tell the doctor and also the practice manager. If I see this happen again there I will take more drastic action.

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
48. Most doctor's offices tell you to turn off/put away your phone.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:31 PM
Sep 2020

I know mine does. But next time, keep yours handy.

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
41. I'm glad you spoke up. That nurse aide should be fired.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:25 PM
Sep 2020

She has no bisiness working in a medical setting.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
44. If a med tech, aide, or anyone in a medical capacity
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:28 PM
Sep 2020

did this to me I'd flip out so bad they'd be sorry as fuck. I'd be threatening licenses. Former nurse here, there is no rationale or excuse for exposing anyone to the virus in a medical facility. The patients are vulnerable, the staff is vulnerable because of constant potential exposure...I'd be going apeshit.

Tetrachloride

(7,813 posts)
60. Insurance company is your ally. Tell them to put the mask on
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:57 PM
Sep 2020

or the malpractice insurance company will drop them.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
61. Yesterday went to an ear doctor who didn't wear a mask and told me I could take mine off.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:59 PM
Sep 2020

He said that his antibodies protected him and he couldn't be contagious.

He survived it 3 months ago.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
73. Nothing worse than an uninformed doctor.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 05:24 PM
Sep 2020

We have one of those in our family whose been triasping around the country on several vacations, eating at restaurants, going to bars, etc. She's also a trumper.

moonscape

(4,672 posts)
63. That is horrific. I cannot imagine going
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:59 PM
Sep 2020

to a medical appt (which I have to do frequently) and feeling unsafe.

Mine still have us wait in the car, call us in to pvt room when ready (my oncologist office even takes vitals and blood outside first at a table they have set up - waiting room is not used!), administer chemo or whatever calls for in-person necessity, and get us out as quickly as possible. Each one is like that. Oh, and they don't just wear masks, but N95s.

The sort of disregard from medical staff you encountered is alarming. I hope you follow-up on the excellent reporting advice.

Not sure where you live, but 'liberal loner' says a lot and I'm so very sorry. I live in one of the bluest counties in CA and feel blessed that with what we are all going through, at least in my immediate environment there is sane support.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
68. I keep thinking, we are living in a country where a significant portion of the citizens are insane.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:46 PM
Sep 2020

That frightens me and upsets me so much. I’m sure I am not alone in this.

AwakeAtLast

(14,120 posts)
76. "Either she goes, or I go."
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:39 PM
Sep 2020

"And I will be making my review public."

You should not have to be around an obviously unprofessional employee.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
80. Thank you! Today is better. Went back to get blood drawn, med tech was gone and a new
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 08:41 AM
Sep 2020

Person took her place so....I’m guessing she was fired?

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
81. Went back today to get my blood drawn, new med tech, the one who trolled me was gone. Not
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 08:43 AM
Sep 2020

Sure if she was fired or quit or just had Today off but she wasn’t there and I was glad for that.

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