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John Oilver."How churches exploit the poor" 20 minutes. 5 years old, credit to-TomCADem (Original Post) Stuart G May 2020 OP
+1 John Oilver fleabiscuit May 2020 #1
I saw this last year blakstoneranger May 2020 #2
The mainstream denominations consider it heresy. BrightKnight May 2020 #3
I agreee -- this is a very offensive video . . . markpkessinger May 2020 #6
Kenneth Copeland - 'COVID-19 Will Be Over Much Sooner Than You Think!' TomCADem May 2020 #4
K&R nt flying rabbit May 2020 #5
 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
2. I saw this last year
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:53 AM
May 2020

on youtube. It really makes you think. Look up "prosperity preachers" you'd be amazed at the lengths they go to get you to give to their personal wealth, all of them, even the ones you think are the good ones, they too are money hungry zealots and---they all love trump because trump=money!! and all they care about is MONEY!! And we now have one in the white house by the name of paula white, the biggest con of them all.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
3. The mainstream denominations consider it heresy.
Sat May 23, 2020, 04:09 PM
May 2020

You don’t need a degree in theology to see that is not Christian. The constant flow of threads trying to link real Christians to this kind of junk is offensive.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
6. I agreee -- this is a very offensive video . . .
Mon May 25, 2020, 01:41 PM
May 2020

. . . and a very ignorant one.

Simply saying "churches," without qualifying which specific organizations you are talking about. and then discussing only the worst abuses pf these televangelists, serves to unjustly malign the great majority of churches in this country.

For many years, I worked as an organist/choir director across numerous denominations: Presbyterian, Dutch Reformed, Lutheran and Episcopalian. In the overwhelming majority of cases,the local churches of these denominations (and of other mainline protestant, as well as Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches), struggle to keep the lights on and meet weekly payroll for clergy and administrative staff. Their clergy are paid very modestly (especially relative to their level of education). And while many of them may indeed maintain a parsonage for their priest/pastor to reside in for the duration of his or her tenure at a particular church, they tend to be pretty average, even relatively modest, homes.

And you're quite correct about mainline denominations' views about the so-called "prosperity gospel." Mainline Christians do, indeed, regard it as heresy. In fact, I think many mainline Christians would be hard-pressed to call these various televangelist enterprises "churches" at all.

But the hucksters/shysters/con artists Oliver points to in this clip are by no means representative of the great majority of Christian clergy, nor are their bloated "ministries" representative of the great majority of Christian churches.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
4. Kenneth Copeland - 'COVID-19 Will Be Over Much Sooner Than You Think!'
Sun May 24, 2020, 09:03 PM
May 2020

Here is Kenneth Copeland who is featured in that John Oliver skit predicting that COVID-19 will over soon due to prayer:



And here is Kenneth Copeland blowing COVID-19 away:



Because as John Oliver notes, Kenneth Copeland needs his followers to plant those seeds (donate):





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