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MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:38 PM Apr 2013

Warning: Graphic Plane Crash Footage

Afghanistan Plane Crash Video: Final Moments Of Doomed U.S. Cargo Plane Shown On Dash Camera (GRAPHIC)

Horrifying video has emerged showing the crash of a U.S. cargo plane in Afghanistan on Monday.

Scroll down for video - some readers may find this content disturbing.

The video, which appears to have been shot by a vehicle's dashboard camera, shows the National Airlines Boeing 747 taking off from the Bagram Airfield military base. According to NYC Aviation.com the aircraft’s nose pitches up heavily, the plane appears to stall and then it falls to the ground.

The crash killed all seven people on board. All were Americans.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/30/afghanistan-plane-crash-video_n_3186298.html
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Warning: Graphic Plane Crash Footage (Original Post) MrScorpio Apr 2013 OP
Hope to never witness such an event Blue Owl Apr 2013 #1
I saw some crashes in Nam. Plucketeer Apr 2013 #3
It was during takeoff... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #5
Looks like a bad stall... RT Atlanta Apr 2013 #6
Yeah, looks like the pilot lost air speed and tried to pull up. Bad move. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #8
From my short experience flying a small plane, RebelOne Apr 2013 #19
I went frame by frame it looks like the elevators are up. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #22
being a pilot myself litlbilly May 2013 #27
Just read this was transporting vehicles. The cargo master was on board. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #12
reason for crash been determined yet? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #2
Horrible. AndyA Apr 2013 #4
As a hang glider pilot... mindwalker_i Apr 2013 #7
Holy fuck me. Robb Apr 2013 #9
Seeing as the plane is almost perpendicular to the ground, and it's a cargo plane, I'm... Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #10
Yeah, I think the cargo shifted. Scary to watch. n/t pa28 May 2013 #26
why wasn't there any audio as it was happening? Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #11
There is audio. He says something at 1:03 in the video. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #13
I guess I didn't listen that far... thanks. It seemed so eerie. Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #16
If I had to guess.. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #18
why wasn't there any audio as it was happening? The CCC Apr 2013 #14
Things went bad real quick sgsmith Apr 2013 #15
I don't think it was high enough to have retracted them yet. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #17
Those clouds... MynameisBlarney Apr 2013 #20
The video date saya February, so how could this happen on Monday? AAO Apr 2013 #21
No one set the clock on it MrScorpio Apr 2013 #24
Looks like it may have climbed too steep and stalled. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2013 #23
This is a 747. I'm also wondering if the pilot had much experience in a 747 or if they were... Poll_Blind May 2013 #25

Blue Owl

(49,913 posts)
1. Hope to never witness such an event
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:45 PM
Apr 2013

It's a sickening feeling when you see a plane stall and stop in mid-air, especially something like a 747.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
3. I saw some crashes in Nam.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:56 PM
Apr 2013

It really wrenches your gut to witness such. This footage is truly amazing - to see this massive plane literally HANG THERE for a couple of seconds before yielding to gravity. Could be mechanical malfunction and possibly a piece of cargo came loose and shifted aft.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
6. Looks like a bad stall...
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:12 PM
Apr 2013

Question is what caused the stall - massive weightshift within the plane or something else? You can hear what sounds to be the engines revved to full power as the plane comes down, but it's too late at that point.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
19. From my short experience flying a small plane,
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:13 PM
Apr 2013

I was taught that if the plane stalls out, do not try to pull up, just point the nose down, gain air speed and then pull up.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
27. being a pilot myself
Thu May 2, 2013, 10:42 PM
May 2013

It almost looked like he was tail heavy. If your plane is nose heavy, much easier to deal with. With a tail heavy plane, almost impossible to control. I think they had to much weight in the back and the center of gravity was not where it should be. And as far as stalling an airplane, you can stall at any airspeed and any attitude, had that drilled into my head.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
4. Horrible.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:06 PM
Apr 2013

I saw a horrific car crash once, where people were killed. Took me a while to not shiver when I thought of it, and I still have low tolerance for careless, rude drivers who break the law, because I've seen first hand what can happen.

I guess I'm thankful that it was a cargo plane, and that there weren't more people on board, but that doesn't really matter to the families of those who died.

RIP.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
7. As a hang glider pilot...
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:17 PM
Apr 2013

I see the stall and can feel it deep in my bones, then the subsequent getting blown around by the wind after losing control. Glad I don't carry jet fuel!

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
10. Seeing as the plane is almost perpendicular to the ground, and it's a cargo plane, I'm...
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:38 PM
Apr 2013

...wondering if a load shifted to the rear to throw the plane into such an orientation. Exceptionally disturbing. The person driving the car immediately knows something is wrong because you can see they slow down/stop almost as soon as the plane comes into view. Harrowing to be staring at such a huge aircraft, watch it wobble like that in the air, and know that not only are there people onboard who will likely die but that the aircraft may come down either on you or close enough to you that you're killed or injured as well.

Very grim.

PB

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
11. why wasn't there any audio as it was happening?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:39 PM
Apr 2013

I mean, was there a person behind that camera? I would
have expected something like a "holy crap" or at least
an audible gasp.. or is it being filmed by a robot?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
13. There is audio. He says something at 1:03 in the video.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:50 PM
Apr 2013

Some people don't react verbally at everything, right away.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
18. If I had to guess..
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:29 PM
Apr 2013

The driver of the vehicle has a headset on and is listening to radio chatter and instructions. Probably why he shushed the dog.

The CCC

(463 posts)
14. why wasn't there any audio as it was happening?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:53 PM
Apr 2013

You can hear the dog, and a quiet sush to the dog. So there was audio. As to why, everyone reacts differently to shocking events.

 

sgsmith

(398 posts)
15. Things went bad real quick
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:58 PM
Apr 2013

Notice that the nose and main gear are still extended just prior to impact. Gear is usually retracted soon after takeoff in order to reduce drag on the airplane.

Too many things that could have gone wrong to make a simple guess.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
17. I don't think it was high enough to have retracted them yet.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:27 PM
Apr 2013

Especially not if the pilots suspected a problem with the plane, and the possibility of aborting.
Sometimes you get to the point of no return and you just have to go for it, even if something is wrong, or you run out of airstrip.

Out of speed, out of altitude... out of options. Sucks.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
25. This is a 747. I'm also wondering if the pilot had much experience in a 747 or if they were...
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:19 PM
May 2013

...used to another craft, for instance a Hercules, which had different climb characteristics. Unless, as I mentioned a little earlier upthread, a load shifted causing the strange nose up stall, it almost looks like the pilot thought there should be a lot more power there than there was.

PB

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