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Related: About this forumBill Maher: "This country is becoming a police state, it is very troubling to me"
rightsideout
(978 posts)Jimmy Kimmel
midnight
(26,624 posts)into the boat was unprofessional.
Warpy
(110,912 posts)and their unprofessionalism in opening fire en masse on that boat. They knew the position the kid was in, one gun would have done the trick, they didn't need 20 or 30 or however many they had. That was a mob and that is unacceptable.
Note I don't fault them for firing, they honestly did think the hand that came out from under the tarp had something in it.
However, the big brotherism of cameras on the street is something I find acceptable because I'd much rather have a confused mugging scene be decided by video tape than eyewitness accounts. Eyewitnesses often have poor memories and are very suggestible and have put more than one innocent man in prison.
sheshe2
(83,343 posts)You already posted it here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022770189
Why not just update your original OP with the video.
As I said before, as much as I like Bill Maher. He is wrong. Please come to Boston one and all. Talk to the people that live here. That lived through it. That are still recovering from the grief. Please talk to the ones that are going through counseling for the horrors that wittnessed that day. It will be a long time before the pain receeds for us.
Please come to Boston and talk to those that lost loved ones. Talk to those with missing limbs. It was 14 in all that have had or will have limbs amputated. Oh sorry it might only be 12 people, since a few had double amputations!
With our loss, you are trying in two OP's to say we are a police state? Why?
You have no idea who and what Boston is!
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Emotionally, from a place of fear/anger/etc you feel the police were doing a good thing. Protecting you.
This kind of numbed acceptance is the very basis of Shock and Awe Doctrines. Shake people up and they are much more accepting of things that "stabilize" their environment, even if it impinges on their civil rights and freedom.
The view from the outside (rationally) notes that it has all the hallmarks of a militarized event.
It doesn't mean all of you are wrong. It means from the outside it looks very, very different.
(Haven't seen the video, so I'm not agreeing with Maher, I'm just responding to your post)
Cha
(295,925 posts)in Boston when it happened? I didn't think so.
Wernothelpless
(410 posts)I'd imagine nerves were pretty thin by the time they took this guy into custody ... and they didn't know if he was armed or not ... they didn't know if there were other accomplices ...
I still question video of the girl in the yellow jacket walking behind the youngest brother wearing a heavy backpack that matches the older brothers ... identical backpacks? ... we've never heard a word about this girl/woman? ... why is that? ...
I'd think that anyone intending to do harm would take away from this situation is "Don't FUCK with Boston" ...
That's an appropriate message ...
Did the police shoot at the boat too much ... yeah, probably ... so what? ...
BaronChocula
(1,458 posts)drama queen. He keeps making comparisons that suggest "because cops don't carry guns in other places, the people are much cooler." I think it's the other way around. English cops don't need to carry guns because culturally, the population is more adult. I don't think it's always that simple, but he actually forces me to agree with Robert Traynham.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)Dennis Miller?
supercats
(429 posts)Yet again!! Though I have never found Jimmy Kimmel to be funny, ever. How the hell did he get a TV show?!
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)tclambert
(11,080 posts)Think anyone actually involved will say, "Yeah, maybe we fired a few too many bullets right there. We might have temporarily forgotten we wanted to take him alive."
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)Most of us have had zero say in any of the policies that have been put into place. Welcome to the grand illusion.
And the defenders seemed to have missed Maher's point. How did having and AFV help capture the suspect? It didn't.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Minus the cool of Mick Jagger.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)They should have just let the Occupiers be. They really weren't hurting anything.
That was sick. We will look back on these events the way we look back on the McCarthy hearings now. Excessive. Just sick. Sadistic. Downright mean.
Aren't there any grown-ups in the police forces any more?
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Many other cities were burning too.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)tomtharp
(30 posts)I basically agree with Bill. I live in a crime free rural area, yet our police have flak jackets and assault rifles, all they do is try to pull over drivers to ticket and hopefully DUI to make money for the county to buy their toys.
Bill, 1/2 those photos look like National Guard, in green ?
Bill, if in England the citizens were armed to the teeth like us, the police would need guns.
Aside to gun nuts: your little guns will not stop government tyranny. The government will tear gas your compound, drive through the wall with a tank, or kill you by drone, etc. Good luck fighting the government with a gun. If you want to fight the government, grow your food tax free, ride a bike tax free, get a computer, study law, use encryption, use bitcoin, etc.