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midnight

(26,624 posts)
4. She worries that what she says will be taken out of context, and the ACLU was worried too...
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:16 PM
Apr 2013

So if fascism=silencing people you are right....

20score

(4,769 posts)
6. I was referring to the way the government became the enforcement arm
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:00 PM
Apr 2013

for a corporation.

And to the spying on someone for stating her interests. Kind of the purpose of the First Amendment.

Kind of like this:

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."

Benito Mussolini


RVN VET

(492 posts)
2. Corporatism, Fascism's twin
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 08:23 PM
Apr 2013

Mussolini defined fascism as the type of government where the State and Business work together in full and mutual cooperation.

But Il Duce was very clear about the State having the dominant hand in the relationship. The wealth of powerful corporations gave him the military he wanted, and that military (and paramilitary) gave him the power to ensure that the corporations remained wealthy.

In America the relationship is reversed, with Business calling the shots. The corporations control the apparatus of the State's security agencies -- the legislature, the police, the government bueaucracies charged with preventing terrorist activities.

Either way, of course, you and I are screwed.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. This issue-oriented surveillance would, it seems to me, chill speech.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:46 PM
Apr 2013

It seems to me it should be declared unconstitutional.

Virginia Cody looked harmless to me. What is dangerous about her other than her desire to talk to others about a danger she perceived to her environment?

midnight

(26,624 posts)
8. I think that is why this is so concerning... To talk about concerns like she did should not have
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 05:01 AM
Apr 2013

this type of ramifications....

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
9. I was thinking about this topic and wondering why, if we have so much money to spend on
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:44 AM
Apr 2013

surveillance, we aren't watching the people with tax evasion accounts in the Caymans and Switzerland and all those lovely vacation spots a little more closely.

Why fool with someone who is complaining about fracking when our government could be collecting the taxes from the cheats?

Something makes no sense on this one.

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
7. It is fascism in a strict sense.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:26 AM
Apr 2013

So was using Soldiers to attack the miners in Colorado during the Colorado Mining Wars.
Seems things don't change much.

Someone like this Lady who really has a genuine ideal in simply preserving the environment of the area she lives in could easily be discouraged by these intimidation tactics by these clowns.
I am not sure what it is going to take but America has to turn off the TV, get out of their chairs and get out in the streets.
But wait, "Dancing With The Stars" is on.

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