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Lamestream Media: TV titans lose US viewers over slanted stories (Original Post) geefloyd46 Apr 2013 OP
Tired of MSMBC. Was happy to finally get efhmc Apr 2013 #1
When M$NBC shitcans Ed Shultz (essentially) and Melissa-Harris-Perry Triana Apr 2013 #4
+1 freshwest Apr 2013 #11
MHP is gone also? rurallib Apr 2013 #13
So agree. efhmc Apr 2013 #15
The Pee-Uw Research is full of shit. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #2
Exactly liberalmike27 Apr 2013 #5
The corporate powers buy them all off! There have been many documentaries of the Gulf oil spill, Dustlawyer Apr 2013 #9
MSNBC is "the place for politics" NewJeffCT Apr 2013 #14
When I want a critique of biased media .... 11cents Apr 2013 #3
Sounds Like An Axe Is Grinding - Don't Like Thom Hartmann Much - I Suspect cantbeserious Apr 2013 #8
K/R~~~ LovingA2andMI Apr 2013 #6
+1 freshwest Apr 2013 #12
DUH. Iliyah Apr 2013 #7
Calling cable commentary outlets 'TV titans' is absurd. Each of them has a tiny audience Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #10
This would mean a lot more if it weren't from Russian state television. marble falls Apr 2013 #16
Unfortunately it also wouldn't be on American television either. geefloyd46 May 2013 #17
RT isn't on US TV..... marble falls May 2013 #18

efhmc

(14,709 posts)
1. Tired of MSMBC. Was happy to finally get
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:06 AM
Apr 2013

a less spewed conservative point of view but now can't look to it for news. Listen to BBC America on the radio. Edited to add that I wish MSM would cover this.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
4. When M$NBC shitcans Ed Shultz (essentially) and Melissa-Harris-Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:49 AM
Apr 2013

They've got issues, IMO. There are no logical explanations for these actions. Only ideological ones. And that's not acceptable.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. The Pee-Uw Research is full of shit.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:19 AM
Apr 2013

MSNBC is 85% opinionated but Faux News and CNN are only 45% opinionated?? WTF? Where did the Pee-U do their research? In TeaBagger Land?

I'm completely disappointed with RT for reporting on this using a flawed pollster - just another corporate bought research that has nefarious reasons for skewed and highly misleading results.

Just think . . . how well did Pee-U poll in last election? Not really well.

If you want accuracy {for now} turn only to PPP polls. They appear to be the only pollsters who really want to get it right . . . until, of course, some moneyed corporation drops a huge back of greenbacks on them and secretly buys them over.

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
5. Exactly
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

I stopped listening at that statistic, as FOX is 100% biased. In the morning at MSNBC, you've got right-winger Joe Scar, and Chuckie Todd, there is some relatively milquetoast coverage until the circle. Most of their news is just that, honest reporting, and as far as I can tell, even when hosts like Rachel, or Ed, or Chris is on, they are honest at reporting facts, and information, which is way better than FOX.

Much of the two-sided news, is one-side anyway, the truth, and some BS made-up story for the right-wing, the anti-global-warming corporate studies, for instance.

And did Pugh factor in the obfuscation of both the corporate left, and the corporate right, neither even coming close to bastions of liberality? I don't think so.

Both networks totally lack coverage of cutting back the MIC. MSNBC fired Cenk because he primarily railed against our major problem, which is corporations essentially buying the laws they want, by contributing to our politicians, through lobbyists. The MIC, banking, oil industries, big pharm, or the NRA actually run our country, after we all go through the charade of voting.

Neither network covers the loss of jobs brought about by globalization. Neither network discusses how much less in taxes we collect now because 35 million jobs have left. Networks scarcely cover the huge amount in taxes corporations AND the rich pay, by basically cheating, made legal by both sides.

Is one a little better than the other? Sure. But like I've said, we've got the corporate left, and corporate right, and neither even approach being "liberal," or even "progressive."

Dustlawyer

(10,493 posts)
9. The corporate powers buy them all off! There have been many documentaries of the Gulf oil spill,
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 01:22 PM
Apr 2013

but you will never see them b/c BP has bought them up for millions apiece! Just think of the powers of the Wall Street financial institutions, military industrial complex, oil companies, drug companies, and insurance companies, not to mention these media outlets are owned by these same interests!!! Do you trust them to play fair? Do you think our politicians, when faced with the choice of taking large campaign donations to vote a certain way, or if they don't they face a primary opponent with more money than God and have none themselves, will do the right thing? The answer to that question is obvious in the last vote on background checks for gun purchases, which had 90% support from Americans. It still failed!!!
We need to be marching in the streets for COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM (CCFR) to get our Representative Democracy back!!!! They have had this planned and in the works since Reagan. ALEC and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce have been the organizing force of this among many others. Lets stop this Red vs. Blue bull shit and realize the game has been rigged all along! Here at DU we complain of Climate Change, cutting the social safety net, lack of good paying jobs, health care.... They are all a symptom of our corrupt political process. We have institutional bribery and it is all LEGAL!!! If we unite behind CCFR we can help solve ALL of our other problems. Lets start it here at DU. Lets focus on this one issue and start educating our friends and relatives. Lets continue to raise the demand for CCFR on this site and others. It will take a united community to affect this big of change, especially when they will not give up their power willingly. We have only to look at what the NYPD supervisors did in response to Wall Streets sudden large donation to the NYPD pension fund to see what they do to a perceived threat (OWS)! They will be better prepared for the next uprising, you can bet on that. We live in a Fascists state plain and simple. Lets take our country back!!!!!!!!!!

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
14. MSNBC is "the place for politics"
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 02:04 PM
Apr 2013

it's designed to be mostly opinion shows - be they conservative like Joe Scarborough, moderate like Chris Matthews or liberal like Rachel Maddow.

Fox News does have more "regular" news programming than MSNBC. It's not opinion - they just slant it to give it a Republican perspective and/or make Democrats look bad. Yes, they have opinion shows on at night - O'Reilly, Hannity, etc - but, during the days it's news from the RNC.

11cents

(1,777 posts)
3. When I want a critique of biased media ....
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:23 AM
Apr 2013

...I always look first to RT, the dedicated voice of the Putin crime family.

BTW, is it still reporting that the fall of Tripoli was staged in Dubai?

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
6. K/R~~~
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

This story, although the numbers of the Pew Study are a bit skewed, is right on point. On a daily basis, I'm tuning off of "cable news" channels for what I see is the lack of news. Opinion is great but all day, everyday is tuning me off.

For instance: I avoid Fox like a plague, barely if ever watch CNN and have found myself tuning off MSNBC after Hardball and Martin Bashir programs on to Soapnet. Sorry but personally, not a fan of Rachel Maddow. Chris Hayes is similar to tuning into a lecture program every night -- no thanks. Would catch Lawrence O' Donnell every now and then but he completes against Y & R on Soapnet so oh well.

I'm sick and tired of the same "talking heads" with opinions on EVERYTHING. Really? There is no one else that can discuss unemployment, attacks on the middle class, the war on the poor, Corporate Republican "policies" in individual States across our nation, foreign affairs or the latest breaking news story. Again, I'm tired of "cue up the talking head for segment whatever on whatever" instead of seeking out REAL AMERICANS that are IMPACTED by these issues. It's not hard to do to find a Middle Class or Working Poor person being affected by Republican policies in North Carolina (or across our nation) for instance. GO FIND THEM. That is NEWS instead of opinion.

If I want to be lectured, that's what class is for. When tuning on news, I expect and demand to see ACTUAL NEWS. Just because you (as a opinionated "news" host) attended an elite university somewhere in America and have the "right" connections, don't make you "smarter" or "more knowledgeable" on subjects than the average American. You just have a paid staff of writers who format a script to read on your behalf. That's it, that's all.

When news becomes news again I'll tune in more. Until then, I'm watching SoapNet were I know what I'm viewing is make believe.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. DUH.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:49 PM
Apr 2013

Closing offices around the world and letting go the researches and real journalist isn't a surprise. Since the fair broadcasting act was abolished during the Clinton Presidency, news outlets across the country has become more of entertainment rather than actual news reporting. Fake news is not news but a propaganda machine and CNN is following suit. I had hope for Current TV but that is still up in the air. I turn to HNL/CNN and all they cover is the Arias trials or any other sensational trials at that time although in the morning the news seem somewhat ok. MSNBC, I rather watch and BS of the 85% concerning its news coverage. It is more about substance and facts than any other of the cable coverage. And whats up with 45% opinionated with Fake news? They are the fucking worst.

We do get less news coverage concerning outside of the USA. Why, because in my opinion and as most Conservatives want, Isolation.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. Calling cable commentary outlets 'TV titans' is absurd. Each of them has a tiny audience
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 01:29 PM
Apr 2013

even at their best moments. Add up the entire audience of all three in any prime time hour and you still wont have a third of the viewers any one of the three major broadcast networks have in that or any other hour.

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