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Related: About this forumGlenn Greenwald on Boston Marathon Arrest: Will We Deny Constitutional Rights in the Name of Fear?
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/4/22/glenn_greenwald_on_boston_marathon_arrestAuthorities have used a public safety exception to delay reading Boston Marathon suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev his Miranda rights to remain silent and to have an attorney present, a move that has sparked controversy. The Obama administration has been criticized in the past for rolling back Miranda rights after unilaterally expanding the public safety exception in 2010. A group of Republican lawmakers have also called for Tsarnaev to be held as an enemy combatant, but the Obama administration has signaled its intention to try him in civilian court. Constitutional lawyer and Guardian columnist Glenn Greenwald joins us to discuss the legal issues surrounding the case. "Its sort of odd that the debate is Lindsey Grahams extremist theory [to hold Tsarnaev as an enemy combatant] or rushing to give President Obama credit for what ought to be just reflexive, which is, if you arrest a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil of a crime, before you imprison him, you actually charge him with a crime and give him the right to a lawyer," Greenwald says. "The fact those are the two sort of extremes being debated, I think, is illustrative of where weve come."
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Glenn Greenwald on Boston Marathon Arrest: Will We Deny Constitutional Rights in the Name of Fear? (Original Post)
midnight
Apr 2013
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midnight
(26,624 posts)1. "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty, than those attending
too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)2. Deny Constitutional Rights in the Name of Fear?
- If we'll kill a million using FEAR for greed and profit, then I'd say we screwed that pooch some time ago Glenn....
[center]''How you see the world, is how you see yourself.''[/center]
No one wants to, nor will they disarm themselves voluntarily in the face of such a CORRUPT government as ours. The USofA is the world's NUMBER 1 ARMS EXPORTER. We hold over 4,000 multiple-warhead nuclear weapons.
We have aging nuclear plants and with no one who wants the waste, it sits corroding in tanks and leaking underground (but hey its great if you want to make dirty bombs). And we now openly make our $$ by making wars on small countries and ripping-off other people's shit. In order for corporations to get richer.
We Drone-kill women and babies and then say ''whoopsies.'' We plunk down some money, say we're so, so sorry and are out the door. Then we go on with more Droning. More women and babies, more ''collateral damages of war.''
And now something NEW -- Americans can now apparently be targeted and killed by a STAR CHAMBER of unknown compliment. We're told we have to trust those who're just looking out for our interest. People must die. Process is no longer ''due.'' It's all in-house now, because secrets. So questions must go unanswered, for everyone's sake. And then people are asked to willingly disarm themselves to our saviors and protectors.
I would love a world with absolutely NO WEAPONS. I know it sounds crazy, but then I never thought I'd see a black President either. So I'll take a bold stance in my hopes and desires now, because why not? Such an unarmed world would mean that we will have evolved beyond our mistrust and barbarism into something greater than we are.
But I think we'll need to disarm our leaders of the power we given away to them, first.
~DeSwiss
We have aging nuclear plants and with no one who wants the waste, it sits corroding in tanks and leaking underground (but hey its great if you want to make dirty bombs). And we now openly make our $$ by making wars on small countries and ripping-off other people's shit. In order for corporations to get richer.
We Drone-kill women and babies and then say ''whoopsies.'' We plunk down some money, say we're so, so sorry and are out the door. Then we go on with more Droning. More women and babies, more ''collateral damages of war.''
And now something NEW -- Americans can now apparently be targeted and killed by a STAR CHAMBER of unknown compliment. We're told we have to trust those who're just looking out for our interest. People must die. Process is no longer ''due.'' It's all in-house now, because secrets. So questions must go unanswered, for everyone's sake. And then people are asked to willingly disarm themselves to our saviors and protectors.
I would love a world with absolutely NO WEAPONS. I know it sounds crazy, but then I never thought I'd see a black President either. So I'll take a bold stance in my hopes and desires now, because why not? Such an unarmed world would mean that we will have evolved beyond our mistrust and barbarism into something greater than we are.
But I think we'll need to disarm our leaders of the power we given away to them, first.
~DeSwiss
[center]''How you see the world, is how you see yourself.''[/center]
midnight
(26,624 posts)4. Dangerous Freedom over peaceful slavery.... Thomas was awake.
KG
(28,751 posts)3. the PATRIOT act answered that question.
midnight
(26,624 posts)5. Listening to Lindsey Graham on this matter it sounds like he is using the NDAA, or wants to....