I learned from the transcript of this video in my first hidden post. Here's the video only.

[proverbialwisdom]

Dr Andrew Wakefield - In His Own Words (1:02:00)

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Re: my first hidden post (off-topic on that thread anyway).

ALERTER'S COMMENTS: (website link) is an anti-semitic conspiracy site. It proudly hosts the filth knows as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's not an accpetable source to use at DU.

My sincere apologies. Good thing I prefaced my post of transcript excerpts with the following:

118. Oh? You might wish to explore this material to be absolutely certain you have accurate information. (Response to muriel_volestrangler, Reply #98)

Full Disclaimer: I've never been to this website before, but it contains relevant transcripts and video. It popped up with a google search.

Fortunately, the video is available at youtube, although not the transcript. Here it is.

[newfie11]

1. Thanks for posting this

It is nice to hear his side of the story. Not a surprise that big pharma would still sell a product with known horrific side effects.

[loudsue]

3. And to watch how it is all done for someone's profit makes me sick.

Greed is a monster in this world.

[canoeist52]

2. The drug company got indemnity from prosecution

for any side effects. This is a now familiar corporate method of doing business (Monsanto ).

[loudsue]

4. True. Monsanto on the chemical end. But look what the insurance companies did in the 1980's.

They made sure that nobody could sue them for not covering something, thereby allowing someone to die. This was part of the reagan/poppy bush legacy.

[loudsue]

5. I'm in favor of vaccinations. I'm MORE in favor of extensive testing of ANY new drug before

it is put on the market, anywhere in the world, and criminal prosecution for executives who know OR SHOULD KNOW that they are selling a drug that is not safe.

[Douglas Carpenter]

6. the denunciations of Dr. Wakefield are extremely strong

I am personally neutral on this matter and have no opinion one way or another - but any quick google search on him and you end up with articles like this in the Guardian:

Struck off MMR doctor handed award for 'lifetime achievement in quackery'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/23/struck-off-mmr-doctor-quackery-award

Even Wikipeida opens from the very beginning with this comment:

Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born 1957) is a British former surgeon and medical researcher, known for his fraudulent 1998 research paper in support of the now-discredited claim that there is a link between the administration of the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine and the appearance of autism and bowel disease.

The a very strong statement like this:

Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born 1957) is a British former surgeon and medical researcher, known for his fraudulent 1998 research paper in support of the now-discredited claim that there is a link between the administration of the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine and the appearance of autism and bowel disease.[1][2][3]

Four years after the publication of the paper, other researchers' results had still failed to reproduce Wakefield's findings or confirm his hypothesis of a relation between childhood gastrointestinal disorders and autism.[4] A 2004 investigation by Sunday Times reporter Brian Deer identified undisclosed financial conflicts of interest on Wakefield's part,[5] and most of his coauthors then withdrew their support for the study's interpretations.[6] The British General Medical Council (GMC) conducted an inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield and two former colleagues.[7] The investigation centred on Deer's numerous findings, including one that autistic children were subjected to unnecessary invasive medical procedures,[8] such as colonoscopy and lumbar puncture, and that Wakefield acted without the required ethical approval from an institutional review board.

On 28 January 2010, a five-member statutory tribunal of the GMC found three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children.[9] The panel ruled that Wakefield had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted both against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his published research.[10][11][12] The Lancet immediately and fully retracted his 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC’s findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified.[13] Wakefield was struck off the Medical Register in May 2010, with a statement identifying dishonest falsification in The Lancet research,[14] and is barred from practising medicine in the UK.[15]

In January 2011, an editorial accompanying an article by Brian Deer in BMJ identified Wakefield's work as an "elaborate fraud".[1][16][17] In a follow-up article,[18] Deer said that Wakefield had planned to launch a venture on the back of an MMR vaccination scare that would profit from new medical tests and "litigation driven testing".[19] In November 2011, yet another report in BMJ[20] revealed original raw data indicating that, contrary to Wakefield's claims in The Lancet, children in his research did not have inflammatory bowel disease



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

[proverbialwisdom]

7. My first hidden post provided information narrowly focused on the following charge, likely false.

Last edited Fri Apr 5, 2013, 06:57 PM - Edit history (4)

Wakefield was receiving money for a legal case trying to prove there was a link with the MMR vaccine, when he made the claims about MMR in his dubious study, but didn't disclose it. That's why he's dishonest.

It was hidden (for a valid reason which was irrelevant to the question at hand), I reposted the video containing the transcript excerpt from a better source (youtube). Conclude what you wish.

[proverbialwisdom]

14. Related BBC article dated 13 April 2013 and its analysis by John Stone, UK Editor for Age of Autism.

BBC ARTICLE: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22132428

...The General Medical Council found Dr Wakefield guilty of serious professional misconduct in 2010 and he was struck off the medical register. It did not investigate whether his findings were right or wrong but focused on the way he carried out his research.

Dr Wakefield's study considered whether there was a link between the three-in-one MMR vaccine and autism and bowel disease.

It focused on tests carried out on 12 children who had been referred to hospital for gastrointestinal problems.

Dr Wakefield was also paid to carry out another study at the same time to find out if parents who claimed their children were damaged by the MMR vaccine had a case. Some children were involved in both studies.

AOA ANALYSIS: http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/04/mmr-and-the-crumbling-fa%C3%A7ade-of-the-british-state.html#comments

Of course, this is still not true because the second study never took place, but the GMC panel insisted in its findings that the two papers were one and the same:

The Panel has heard that ethical approval had been sought and granted for other trials and it has been specifically suggested that Project 172-96 was never undertaken and that in fact, the Lancet 12 children’s investigations were clinically indicated and the research parts of those clinically justified investigations were covered by Project 162- 95. In the light of all the available evidence, the Panel rejected this proposition.

Obscenely, the GMC panel deliberated for three years over this falsehood and yet such is justice that it has only been over-turned in the case of one of the doctors. However, it really is time that manufacturers of these official deceits started answering questions. For instance, why - if MMR was safe - were such disgusting perversions necessary to protect its reputation?

http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/04/mmr-and-the-crumbling-fa%C3%A7ade-of-the-british-state.html#comments

MMR and the Crumbling Façade of the British State

By John Stone

Truth is a hard game and when people start admitting it you scarcely know where it might end. Today, the BBC and the United Kingdom Department of Health tacitly admitted that a key finding of the GMC hearing against doctors Wakefield, Walker-Smith and Murch was false, that the Wakefield Lancet paper of 1998 was identical to a study commissioned by the Legal Aid Board: with that finding out of the way – dismissed as it was by Mr Justice Mitting in the High Court in the appeal of Prof John Walker-Smith – then many of the other accusations against all three doctors crumble to dust.

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Looking for an author on the BBC article, I just noticed this near the page bottom:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22132428

Related Internet links
Age of Autism -link
Public Health Wales - link
Around the BBC
BBC Health - Measles -link
The BBC is not responsible for the content of external Internet sites.

John Stone does outstanding reporting, as a site search at AOA for his work will demonstrate. Look at AOA from today's BBC link.

[proverbialwisdom]

8. BTW gratuitous/snarky aside about Wakefield in the thread of my hidden post prompted the post below.

See sequential posts #49, #91, #98, #118: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2608037

91. Off-topic aside you might wish to consider.

Here's a press release about a study recently published in a peer-reviewed journal. I added the underline in critical note #3. (FYI, Professor/Dr. John Walker-Smith is regarded as the co-founder of the field of pediatric gastroenterology with Harvard Professor/Dr. Allan Walker).

http://www.jabs.org.uk/

CryShame Press Release - 9 March 2013

http://www.cryshame.co.uk

Important new research ( http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0058058 ) reports similar findings to the work of Dr Andrew Wakefield in the 1998 Lancet and in subsequent paper in the early 2000s

Groundbreaking new research examines the molecular structure of inflammatory material taken from the bowels of autistic children. It compares the structure of diseased biopsies in the autistic children with biopsies from three groups of non-autistic children with Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis, and histologically normal (the controls).

Previous research confirmed the pathological and immunological make-up of biopsies of autistic children, but had not to date identified its specific molecular structure. Children with the four different conditions have been found to have similar findings of inflammation. But it was not clear if this was the same condition shared by all four groups; or if a distinct condition was specific to autistic children alone; or if indeed there was no disease in the autistic group. A molecular analysis of the genetic structure found in the inflamed bowel tissue of children in each group would provide initial answers to these questions.

To date government and medical scientists continue to deny an association between autism and bowel disease. In the UK there is currently no research into the association between autism and chronic bowel disease. This has been the predicament since the government and medical profession waged a campaign to discredit research from the Royal Free Hospital led by Dr Andrew Wakefield in 1998 and the early 2000s that first identified the presence of bowel disease in autistic children.

Following years of denial from government and the medical profession, new research published in the leading online journal PLOS ONE confirms the presence of intestinal disease in autistic children and supports reports from many parents of ongoing painful gastric problems in their autistic children.

The research studied bowel samples from 25 autistic, 8 Crohn's, 5 ulcerative colitis and 15 normal control children and found that inflammatory material obtained from the biopsies of autistic children had a distinct molecular structure that was different from the other three groups.

This is an important finding of the distinct genetic expression that has now been identified in autistic children as distinct from non-autistic children with Crohns, ulcerative colitis and normal bowels. It paves the way for future research into the specific molecular structure of the inflammation affecting autistic children and hopefully will lead to new interventions and treatment.

Background Notes

1. The first paper to bring to public attention the presence of bowel disease in autistic children was Wakefield AJ, (1998) 'Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children'.The Lancet published this paper in 1998 but subsequently retracted it in 2010 after the GMC found Dr Wakefield and Professor Walker-Smith guilty of serious professional misconduct.

2. Several former colleagues went on in the early 2000s to study the nature of the bowel disease in autistic children, focusing on the pathology of gut tissue and the presence of autoimmune features in the bowel (eg Furlano et al (2001) 'Colonic CD8 and ?? T-cell infiltration with epithelial damage in children with autism', Journal of Pediatrics, Vol. 138, 3).

3. The senior research leader of the Lancet and subsequent papers was Professor John Walker-Smith who in March 2012 had all the charges of professional misconduct made by the GMC quashed on appeal by Justice Mitting in the High Court.

4. Government Minister admits more needs to be done to research autism and bowel disease. Read letter here.

PLOS ONE Journal Information

PLOS ONE (eISSN-1932-6203) is an international, peer-reviewed, open-access, online publication. PLOS ONE welcomes reports on primary research from any scientific discipline. It provides:
•Open-access—freely accessible online, authors retain copyright
•Fast publication times
•Peer review by expert, practicing researchers
•Post-publication tools to indicate quality and impact
•Community-based dialogue on articles
•Worldwide media coverage

Again, conclude what you wish. The future looks promising for sorting all this out, I'd say.

[proverbialwisdom]

9. You said "the denunciations of Dr. Wakefield are extremely strong." Yes, but so is the support.

I'd been regularly reading the adventuresinautism.blogspot.com which I found by a Google search for the documentary THE WORLD ACCORDING TO MONSANTO after it was pulled by youtube.

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/05/monsanto-gmos-world-according-to.html
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/05/monsanto-gmos-arpad-pusztai-looks-at.html

One day, my twitchy wireless mouse touched the AOA link on the site's bloglist, and I found myself reading the following essay. Check it out.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/08/age-of-autism-awards-2008-galileo-award-dr-andrew-wakefield.html

December 31, 2008

Age of Autism Awards 2008 Galileo Award: Dr. Andrew Wakefield

From the Roman to the Wakefield Inquisition
By Mark Blaxill

As the year draws to a close, all of us at the Age of Autism are very pleased to honor Dr. Andrew Wakefield. As we’ve reported here many times during the past year, Dr. Wakefield has been the subject of a remarkable and unprecedented campaign to discredit his work and character, most notably in a show trial that is still underway in London, in hearings of the General Medical Council. In the face of extraordinary attempts to silence him, Wakefield has stood up to these attacks with grace and determination and has continued his research and clinical work on behalf of children and families suffering from autism. That makes him our first Age of Autism Galileo Award recipient.

Like many of our awards this year, this wasn’t a difficult decision. In fact, this may be one of those unusual cases where the recipient of an award in some ways outshines its namesake. To understand why that might be so, you need to understand a bit more about why we chose to name the award after the Italian scientist Galileo, what he represents to the history of science and how his experience compares with Wakefield’s.

Galileo Galilei was born in Pisa, Italy in 1564. And while he was a physicist and mathematician of some note, Galileo was as much a practical mechanic as he was a grand theorist; indeed it was his tinkering with convex and concave lenses that gave him the tools to leave his lasting mark on the world. As a skilled inventor of early working telescopes, he did not design the world’s first telescope, but he was the first to make them powerful enough for scientific use. In fact, the word telescope (derived from the Greek roots skopein, “to see”, and tele for “far”) was coined in 1611 to describe one of Galileo’s first instruments. For the accomplishments that flowed from his pioneering work, he has been described by many as The Father of Modern Physics; Albert Einstein even went so far as to name him The Father of Modern Science.

But Galileo is celebrated today not as much for his engineering talent as for the suffering he endured in support of an unpopular scientific theory. Because it was Galileo’s work with telescopes in the early 17th century that lent critical support to the theory of heliocentrism, the idea that the earth revolved around the sun and not the other way around. As with his telescope technology, Galileo was not the first to propose the heliocentric theory: that distinction belongs to Nicolai Copernicus. Yet Copernicus, a Polish mathematician, was well aware of the personal risk of disseminating his ideas and delayed their publication for many years. Copernicus’ major work, De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, was published only shortly before his death at age 70 in 1543.

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[BelgianMadCow]

11. On a bit of a side note, why was The world according to Monsanto pulled by Youtube, do you know?

Was it because of some copyright violation or were there doubts about the accuracy?

Because I've read the book and found it very convincing, but I'm always interested to hear dissenting opionions.

Thanks in advance!
bmc

[proverbialwisdom]

13. No idea, sorry.

[proverbialwisdom]

10. The Independent-UK publishes 'Full statement by Dr. Andrew Wakefield'

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/full-statement-by-dr-andrew-wakefield-the-government-has-tried-to-cover-up-putting-price-before-childrens-health-8570596.html

Full statement by Dr Andrew Wakefield
MMR scare doctor breaks his silence

Friday 12 April 2013
1 hour ago

- will US MSM?

[BelgianMadCow]

12. This subject needs more light, so I agree with dr Wakefield there

The US government has paid out millions of dollars to children whose autism followed vaccine-induced brain damage. A recent government concession in the US Vaccine Court confirms that the parents’ claims were valid all along. In a recently published December 13, 2012 vaccine court ruling, hundreds of thousands of dollars were awarded to Ryan Mojabi, whose parents described how “MMR vaccinations”, caused a “severe and debilitating injury to his brain, diagnosed as Autism Spectrum Disorder [‘ASD’]”.

Later the same month, the government suffered a second major defeat when young Emily Moller from Houston won compensation following vaccine-related brain injury that, once again, involved MMR and resulted in autism.

The cases follows similar successful petitions in the Italian and US courts (including Hannah Poling, Bailey Banks, Misty Hyatt, Kienan Freeman, Valentio Bocca, and Julia Grimes) in which the governments conceded or the court ruled that vaccines had caused brain injury. In turn, this injury led to an ASD diagnosis. MMR vaccine was the common denominator in these cases.

The more light that shone on this subject by way of informed, balanced debate, the better. I am offering to debate any serious challenger on MMR vaccine safety and the role of MMR in autism, live, in public, and televised.

The very least one can say is, this needs thorough investigation. There's no way in my mind the explosion of ADD, ADHD and ASD children is to be considered normal. Some external factor is causing it, and it's very likely some big corps are profiting from either using things in our food or environment that they shouldn't or from supplying the medicine to supposedly treat it.

I actually think the DSM manual for diagnosing psychiatric disorders is at least equally responsible, but hey

[proverbialwisdom]

15. Follow-up.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/04/uk-health-ministers-reply-undermines-media-claims-about-the-measles-outbreak-and-mmr.html

UK Health Minister's Reply Undermines Media Claims About The Measles Outbreak and MMR

April 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

From the Child Health Safety site in the UK comes this post, "Dr Andrew Wakefield Not Cause of Welsh Measles Outbreak – Confirms UK Government Minister In Parliament."

It looks like British Health Minister Earl Howe has put egg over the faces of the British media regarding their claims that Dr Andrew Wakefield is to blame for recent UK outbreaks of measles. But they do not know it yet...

Minister Howe stated in relation to recent cases in 2012 that the highest proportion occurred in those under five years of age and that [CHS emphasis added]:

a “minority of cases in 2012 can be attributed to the fall in coverage with MMR vaccine in the early part of this century …”
and that “… MMR vaccination uptake is currently at historically high levels.“ (emphasis added)

Read the full post at: http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2013/04/14/dr-wakefield-not-caused-welsh-measles-confirms-government-minister/